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    Is there a way to learn potion recipes and spells faster?

    JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
    edited September 2019 in The Sims 4 Packs Discussion
    Hello, I actually got some bugs in game, so I saved my wizard sims in library and moved them into a new game. When I opened them in a new game, my virtuoso wizards lost all spells and potion recipes. I really don't want to start learning spells and potion recipes all over again. Also they have their own careers to study as well. Is there a faster way to get them back without cheats? Weird thing is that they still can 'transportalate' to everywhere even though the spell is shown as not learned in their spell book. I appreciate all helps, Thanks.

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      DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 3,355 Member
      Only way I can think of is to take 1-2 sim days and practice magic as much as possible/experiment on the cauldron. Every report I've seen of people who've powered through ROM says they learned most - if not all - their magic this way. (I personally haven't found this method to be particularly more effective than asking the Sages daily, but I also don't use the Needs Potion like water either.)
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      edited September 2019
      For the potion recipes, finally, I learned all of them. I asked the potion recipes to Sages, then asked to do the magic dual for artifacts, then I could be able to re ask the potion recipes. I repeated until learning all recipes. it's much more faster than doing experiments in the cauldron. It was great but I didn't get the question about the spell with them. Maybe asking the spells is allowed only once a day.
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      DaWaterRat wrote: »
      Only way I can think of is to take 1-2 sim days and practice magic as much as possible/experiment on the cauldron. Every report I've seen of people who've powered through ROM says they learned most - if not all - their magic this way. (I personally haven't found this method to be particularly more effective than asking the Sages daily, but I also don't use the Needs Potion like water either.)

      Thanks :)
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      SindocatSindocat Posts: 5,622 Member
      Each Sage will teach one spell from their school, and one potion, per in-game day*. The real trick is advancing in Spellcaster ranks, but casting, brewing, using potions, and dueling all contribute. You learn faster practicing with a Sage (using the Ask for Magical Training interaction) than practicing alone.

      Sages will only teach you spells up to your caster level although, loading screen tip to the contrary, the final spell in each school is available at Master, rather than Virtuoso. You can also find spell and potion Tomes searching the bookcases at HQ, as well as at the shop.

      What I have yet to complete, because I have been switching among saves, is unlocking all Talents. That's a lot of over-levelling, and can conceivably keep my Spellcaster busy for a loooong time.

      *You seem to have found a potions loophole. As far as I know, there is no similar work-around for spells.
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      Sindocat wrote: »
      Each Sage will teach one spell from their school, and one potion, per in-game day*. The real trick is advancing in Spellcaster ranks, but casting, brewing, using potions, and dueling all contribute. You learn faster practicing with a Sage (using the Ask for Magical Training interaction) than practicing alone.

      Sages will only teach you spells up to your caster level although, loading screen tip to the contrary, the final spell in each school is available at Master, rather than Virtuoso. You can also find spell and potion Tomes searching the bookcases at HQ, as well as at the shop.

      What I have yet to complete, because I have been switching among saves, is unlocking all Talents. That's a lot of over-levelling, and can conceivably keep my Spellcaster busy for a loooong time.

      *You seem to have found a potions loophole. As far as I know, there is no similar work-around for spells.

      Yeah you're right. it is the best way of taking the training from Sages for leveling up. My issue is my wizard sims are already virtuoso but they lost all spells and recipes and I didn't want learn them all over again. For potion recipes, as my sims are already on top level, so 'asking potion recipes' interaction showed up on Sages every 5 minutes which is great! :)
      Yeah I think there's only one way to get all spells back without cheat that my sims just practice spells everyday and visit the magic land for asking to Sages. Thanks. :)
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      catloverplayercatloverplayer Posts: 93,395 Member
      Sadly the fastest way is thru mods.
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      catloverplayer wrote: »
      Sadly the fastest way is thru mods.

      wow do you know what mod makes it fast?

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      katrinasforestkatrinasforest Posts: 1,002 Member
      I wouldn't be surprised if someone's put up a room with all the tomes in it on the gallery already. (I have most, but not all of them, so far.) Not sure how long studying each one would take, but it's at least a predictable amount of time, as opposed to experimenting, which is more random.
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      invisiblgirlinvisiblgirl Posts: 1,709 Member
      What's the best mood for spellcasters? I've got one Sim with the 'genius' trait and one with the 'creative' trait, so they're normally focused or inspired, unless a spell or potion has been made successfully, in which case, they're confident.
      I just want things to match. :'(
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      invisiblgirl wrote: »
      What's the best mood for spellcasters? I've got one Sim with the 'genius' trait and one with the 'creative' trait, so they're normally focused or inspired, unless a spell or potion has been made successfully, in which case, they're confident.
      I don't think there's any specific mood for the spells and potions. It depends on the perks.

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      catitude5catitude5 Posts: 2,537 Member
      Hold down the shift button, click on sim. A menu will come up, click on magic, another menu will come up.
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      catitude5 wrote: »
      Hold down the shift button, click on sim. A menu will come up, click on magic, another menu will come up.

      No I don't have 'magic' menu on my wizard sim with the shift key on.

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      Moon_WillowMoon_Willow Posts: 732 Member
      Jeansoo wrote: »
      catitude5 wrote: »
      Hold down the shift button, click on sim. A menu will come up, click on magic, another menu will come up.

      No I don't have 'magic' menu on my wizard sim with the shift key on.

      Did you have testingcheats turned on?
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      edited September 2019
      Moon_Willow wrote: »
      Jeansoo wrote: »
      catitude5 wrote: »
      Hold down the shift button, click on sim. A menu will come up, click on magic, another menu will come up.

      No I don't have 'magic' menu on my wizard sim with the shift key on.

      Did you have testingcheats turned on?

      Yes I can see all public images cheat, Cheat needs, modify in cas and bowling cheats as well but don't see any magic menu.

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      SomeChick1SomeChick1 Posts: 535 Member
      Here are a few things I can think of

      1. If you have Get Together, add spellcasters and sages to a club. Then you can randomly gather at your home, duel, ask for spells/potions, etc. 2. Try searching the gallery for a room with all of the books/tomes. Then you can read from home.
      3. Put another Sim in the household and give them some death flowers. The Sim you want to advance quick - you can let them practice/perform as much magic as you want without fear of death bc there's always a Sim there with a Death Flower to revive in case things to bad
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      JeansooJeansoo Posts: 3,606 Member
      SomeChick1 wrote: »
      Here are a few things I can think of

      1. If you have Get Together, add spellcasters and sages to a club. Then you can randomly gather at your home, duel, ask for spells/potions, etc. 2. Try searching the gallery for a room with all of the books/tomes. Then you can read from home.
      3. Put another Sim in the household and give them some death flowers. The Sim you want to advance quick - you can let them practice/perform as much magic as you want without fear of death bc there's always a Sim there with a Death Flower to revive in case things to bad

      Sorry I noticed your suggestion just now. Not sure about the 3 but I can try the 1 and 2. Thanks :)
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