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    Sages Just Leave?!

    CamkatCamkat Posts: 2,329 Member
    in The Sims 4 Packs Discussion
    Today I had my sim go to magic HQ to do his daily spell learning from the sages. I've gotten all 3 sages friendship up high enough I can just walk in and ask for my spells then leave and go back to his regular life. However today, Morgyn just left?! He just upped and walked right out the realm while I was trying to talk to him and was replaced by this lady Toni Sharpe, who my sim doesn't know and she won't teach him anything because she doesn't know him well enough?! Ok, so thanks game, that was rude. I've never had sages just quit in the middle of something and leave. I've had them replaced in another save where they died of old age. I've seen sages about the world too and despite just passing by my sim's home, they are ALWAYS in the realm being sages when my sim gets there. Has this happened to anyone else? Is this supposed to happen and I've just been lucky up until now?
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    • MagdaleenaMagdaleena Posts: 973 Member
      edited September 2019
      Both the Mischief and Practical sages have somehow gotten replaced by random NPCs in my game, Morgyn is somehow the only one left. Go figure.

      L. Faba showed up as a barista at the new bar, and so did Simeon. I guess this made them stop being sages. I should fire them from their jobs. Maybe that will bring them back.

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    • logionlogion Posts: 4,719 Member
      That's because the game gives them jobs. They leave when their work hours start and are replaced by other sims who will become sages. Being a sage is apparently not a job but a hidden trait.

      If you use MCCC you can keep your sages unemployed by going to MCCC > Sim Flags > Flag Freeze Career when they are unemployed. If you need to remove their current career you can do that by going to Cheat Sim Info > Remove Career

      There is currently a bug where they will still wear their old work outfit though. So the best way is to load an old save and do it before they get assigned jobs. Otherwise you have to change their career outfit by using the modify career outfit cheat.
    • CamkatCamkat Posts: 2,329 Member
      I guess I knew they had jobs, L.Faba showed up in my other save as the pet adoption agent when I sold a kitten. When I went back to the realm though, she was always there, although always now wearing her suit from that job. :/

      Obviously I just never seen them leave to go to a job? Assuming they skipped if I was there I guess. They should probably code it so they can't have jobs, being a sage should be job enough!

      I did go back and Morgyn was back, so I guess they did leave to go to work. Not sure what job because the clothes are still the same sage clothes, something part time I guess? I should ask them. Hahah

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    • MasonGamerMasonGamer Posts: 8,851 Member
      Yes, I had two sages, Ganondorf and Sheogorath leave the realm for an unknown reason.
      And be replaced by two random sages. I just delete the replacements and Ganondorf and Sheogorath reclaimed their respective roles.

      Why they left? no idea.

      But they can leave.
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    • HermitgirlHermitgirl Posts: 8,825 Member
      To me this is weird but I'll keep a look out for it. I have 3 spellcasters that go to the Realm separately. One is a Virtuoso, one is a Master .. and one is just starting out, but I feel like I've spent a lot of time there and all three of the Sages are always there. Although I do see them walking around in the other neighborhoods, fishing ect.. when I'm out and about.
      I play with aging off.. and I don't have any mods in my game. Could this be a mod conflict? Or a story progression thing?
      My save is also an older one so maybe (?) the bartenders ect have already been chosen in my save, that's the only other thing I can think of.
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    • LadyKynLadyKyn Posts: 3,595 Member
      Think its a bug as someone mentioned they really arent suppose to be able to get jobs. Hopefully they fix it in the next patch. For now I had used MCC. I tend to flag sims in careers, physique, marriage, skills and from culling. :p
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    • CamkatCamkat Posts: 2,329 Member
      I don't use MCC but the further and further we get into this series, and the more and more bugs piling up, I'm seriously considering it for the first time ever. I'd appreciate if they could fix it so the sages were just sages. I do feel like a sage is a job, and those poor sims have to hold the realm together and work at HAMBURGER? Doesn't seem too realistic either, that's like Dumbledore working at McDonalds.
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    • Moon_WillowMoon_Willow Posts: 732 Member
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      To me this is weird but I'll keep a look out for it. I have 3 spellcasters that go to the Realm separately. One is a Virtuoso, one is a Master .. and one is just starting out, but I feel like I've spent a lot of time there and all three of the Sages are always there. Although I do see them walking around in the other neighborhoods, fishing ect.. when I'm out and about.
      I play with aging off.. and I don't have any mods in my game. Could this be a mod conflict? Or a story progression thing?
      My save is also an older one so maybe (?) the bartenders ect have already been chosen in my save, that's the only other thing I can think of.

      Definitely not a mod conflict. I have mod and cc disabled in my game. Morgyn left the Magic Realm when my sim was visiting and got replaced by another sim then a few days later he was back as page. My sim eventually ended up marrying him and he had a job as a style influencer.
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    • SindocatSindocat Posts: 5,622 Member
      Sometimes the game assigns the Sages careers, in which case they will leave for work hours. When they have disinstantiated for work, a new Sage of that school appears, and steps in as a substitute while they are gone. You will need to cultivate a relationship with the substitute to be taught by them, as well. A Potion of Forced Friendship is the speedy work-around.
    • SilentKittySilentKitty Posts: 4,665 Member
      Let sages be sages, hope it will get patched so that they will not be recruited for to other jobs.
    • CamkatCamkat Posts: 2,329 Member
      Sindocat wrote: »
      Sometimes the game assigns the Sages careers, in which case they will leave for work hours. When they have disinstantiated for work, a new Sage of that school appears, and steps in as a substitute while they are gone. You will need to cultivate a relationship with the substitute to be taught by them, as well. A Potion of Forced Friendship is the speedy work-around.

      I can't believe I didn't think of this! Although, that's assuming that one has learned that before a sage gets a job. :/
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    • OEII1001OEII1001 Posts: 3,682 Member
      I think that the sage matter has been mismanaged. According to lore, the three sages didn't really like each other, but got together in order to keep the magical realm from literally tearing itself apart. As unpopular as it may be, perhaps it would have been better if Morgyn and friends would not have been able to be removed from those roles. At least then there would have been the three very cool-looking sages we saw from the trailers.
    • GrouchybeastGrouchybeast Posts: 149 Member
      I know this is a bug, and really annoying in game, but I also find it hilarious to imagine a sage deciding to just up and quit their sage job and become a barista. It's like they're all having a magical mid-life crisis.
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    • SilentKittySilentKitty Posts: 4,665 Member
      Grouchybeast wrote: »
      I know this is a bug, and really annoying in game, but I also find it hilarious to imagine a sage deciding to just up and quit their sage job and become a barista. It's like they're all having a magical mid-life crisis.

      Lol, plum this! You keep this realm from falling apart

      Nahh, rather keep the sages that I put care into making special but yes it is a bit fun.
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