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Moschino Stuff Pack Early Access Honest Opinion

Thanks to EA for sending me an early access code

First things first, I'll get my opinions on this whole collaboration out of the way:

The fact that it is branded content is very off putting to begin with. I am not a fan of having real life people or brands in my game. I was a bit more open to the past collaborations with H&M or IKEA for 2 reasons: 1- they are more affordable day to day brands 2- I was a lot younger and didn't have such a formed opinion about corporations and brands, where they belong and where they don't.
Another reason why conceptually this didn't work for me from the get go was the chosen brand. I find that choosing a high fashion brand for this game is weird and in general I really couldn't care less about high fashion. I find it frivolous and usually ugly.

With that out of the way, I still came into this pack with an open mind

The pack blends really well with Get Famous and City Living.

I enjoyed the livestream and wanted to like the SP.

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me trying to be as objective as possible

Let's start with the lightest part of the review, CAS

We shouldn't forget that this is a Stuff Pack so it comes with a lot less items than a GP or EP.
CAS is bold and high fashion. There are a couple of items that are pretty nice and would suit some of my sims very well (the perks of rotational play!). Other items are hideous but I was glad to hear that they made sure townies won't be going around on those clothes.
Some of the items have a very small amount of swatches (if any at all) but this is because they are clothes that exist/ed in real life (designed and sold by Moschino) and they could only add the real swatches to the pack. I think the team did a more or less good job at finding the balance between crazy clothes and some more wearable items.

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me being skeptical about high fashion

Let's move on to Build/Buy mode, my favourite part of this SP.

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Modern furniture with an industrial feeling. I love it!
This is one of the best BB catalogues in a Stuff Pack so far for TS4. Laundry Day is still better in my opinion, and I love the boho/funky style of Movie Hangout but after those 2, Moschino will be number 3 on my list.
I built a pretentious-hipster-urban arts centre in a penthouse in San Myshuno and had a lot of fun doing so.
The items in this pack go very well with the aesthetic of San Myshuno and the BB catalogue from Get Famous and I love when this happens.
I know I will use of of the items here a lot from now on.

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Gameplay is where I have most conflicting feelings:

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me saying WHY WHY WHY to my computer screen

First of all, the gameplay is very wonky. It can take forever to get everyone to pose and then to get the photographer to take the picture, by the time the picture is going to be taken, the "models" have moved from their position, started chatting to each other, etc
There is a lot of waiting and reseting going on if you want to get nice pictures.

My biggest grip with this pack is the revamped photography skill being half locked behind a (branded) Stuff Pack and the recycling of the photo studio concept.

The photography skill was first introduced with Get to Work. The photography studio was poorly done and lacked in basically every area. You couldn't take pictures of more than 2 sims, you couldn't take pictures with your toddlers or kids, altough to be fair, you couldn't take pictures with your toddlers because there were no toddlers in the game :D
It was overall very restrictive and taking good pictures was a pain in the plum.
Then at some point down the line, they decided to patch the photography skill in for everyone for free. I was not upset by that even though I paid for Get to Work since I thought it made sense for the base game to have it and potentially improve it.
Then the improvement came...but mostly locked behind a branded Stuff Pack. Yes, they patched in some of the new features but most of it is SP exclusive.

This is very problematic to me. They charged us already twice for a feature that is a base game feature by now. They couldn't get it right the first time around in the EP and when they finally redo it, they make us pay again.

It is also basically the selling point of this pack, together with the other problematic feature, the freelance photographer career.
Freelance careers were introduced in a patch not long ago, using already existing skills and careers and making them more fluid taking advantage of the Acting career system. I thought it was genius because with little effort they brought a breath of fresh air to my game. But now, they are introducing a new branch of the freelance career with a base game skill and selling it as a brand new career. It is not, it is more recycling for paid content.
The revamping of the photography skill (which was VERY necessary) together with the addition of a new branch on the freelance career should have all been patched in for everyone.
I'd totally give the new branch of the freelance career a pass if it was something really new, like model or fashion designer to go with the theme of the pack. That would have been great but it's not the case.

Overall, it is really only 10 euros/dollars and it has pretty cool Build/Buy items but the ethics behind this pack should not be ignored or covered by beautiful windows and shiny leather jackets.
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Comments

  • MidnightAuraMidnightAura Posts: 5,702 Member
    Thank you for this review. I’ve saw a few reviewers comment on their dislike of the updated photography being stuck behind dlc. I’m also concerned as quite a few game changer have mentioned sims stuck waiting during photos shoots and to turn off free will, not to mention bugs.
  • GitaGita Posts: 96 Member
    I like the build/buy items, that will probably the only reason for me to buy this pack. Thank you for your honest review.
  • logionlogion Posts: 2,030 Member
    edited August 2019
    Thank you for the review. It is strange to have a pack focus on fashion and barely have any CAS clothing in it, and also have this wonky gameplay and situational outfits where NPC's are wearing the most atrocious of outfits (which actually happened during their livestream, Judith showed up in an awful generated celebrity outfit).

    I love making sims in CAS and giving them outfits myself but I feel very conflicted with this pack. I think some outfits are awful in this pack and only makes the sims4 look even more cartoony and goofy.
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  • Akl500PAkl500P Posts: 2,663 Member
    Thank you for this review! I actually fully understand where simmers are coming from about the photography upgrade being locked behind a paywall. It’s not MFPS bad but it’s still not the best decision.

    For me personally I think the only reason it doesn’t bug me much is because I bought GTW well after it had been released as a base game skill. So I don’t feel like I’m paying for it again. I also don’t use photography much and I am pretty excited to know that there is a pack I can purchase that makes photography to me much more intriguing as a skill (I plan on using it fairly often right now to take family photos which wasn’t really possible before). I’m glad to know it’s a bit wonky though (it’s sims 4 isn’t every feature a bit wonky and buggy upon release). It makes me expect issues upon going into the gameplay.

    I’ll still purchased it today because I am excited about a lot that comes with it including photography revamp but I appreciate this review and I think you explained your view of it all very well. Also I’m beyond excited for the BB mode it looks fantastic and I can even see myself using a few CAS items. I feel like in the end I’ll really enjoy and get a lot of use out of this stuff pack. Thank you for your honesty. I always appreciate that with reviews more than anything.
  • TomatplanteTomatplante Posts: 2,705 Member
    Thank you for another well written review! I fully agree to your criticism about the photography feature and this is what makes me most torn about buying the pack. I think the options to take actual family photos is very needed in the game, and I'm upset that I'll have to buy a high fashion SP with clothes and furniture I don't want or need to get this basic feature. I'm leaning towards not buying, especially after seeing you describing it as wonky and seeing multiple glitches in video reviews.
  • marcel21marcel21 Posts: 12,131 Member
    some of get famous buy mode content goes well with buy mode in this pack B)
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  • SimCarlexSimCarlex Posts: 349 Member
    edited August 2019
    Great review, thanks!
    I also tend to stay away from branded packs. This time I'm buying this one only for the sake of taking landscape photographs with the "new" tripod, which apparently allows new angles... I'm an enthusiast photographer and I don't think I will resist the urge to give this one a pass :(
    Oh, and I'm also a big fan of digital photo frames :)
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    I once started a Sims blog called My Sims Pieces (snapshots and stories from the lives of my Sims) and maybe I'll get back to it one day...
  • Pamtastic72Pamtastic72 Posts: 2,938 Member
    edited August 2019
    Thanks to EA for sending me an early access code

    First of all, the gameplay is very wonky. It can take forever to get everyone to pose and then to get the photographer to take the picture, by the time the picture is going to be taken, the "models" have moved from their position, started chatting to each other, etc
    There is a lot of waiting and reseting going on if you want to get nice pictures.

    There is an object in bb that is placed on the ground that is supposed to make photo subjects stay put as you pose them and take photos. Did you try using that, or is it bugged and not working?
  • tegteg87tegteg87 Posts: 302 Member
    Excellent review - very well written and I agree with pretty much all of what you said. I'll wait for a sale and then be getting the pack purely for the new bb objects. It's such as shame though regarding the career that they rehashed an existing skill (poorly) then made us pay again for it. Something really new like a fashion model career would have been such more welcome in my eyes - that would tie in so well with the existing photography skill and also the style influencer career from the Get famous pack.
  • Bearly_MediaBearly_Media Posts: 93 Member
    Hey, stupid question:

    Did they add any photography related club activities if you have the Get Together pack?
  • AlbaWaterhouseAlbaWaterhouse Posts: 3,953 Member
    Thanks to EA for sending me an early access code

    First of all, the gameplay is very wonky. It can take forever to get everyone to pose and then to get the photographer to take the picture, by the time the picture is going to be taken, the "models" have moved from their position, started chatting to each other, etc
    There is a lot of waiting and reseting going on if you want to get nice pictures.

    There is an object in bb that is placed on the ground that is supposed to make photo subjects stay put as you pose them and take photos. Did you try using that, or is it bugged and not working?

    Yes, I used it and it is buggy. They wait around then someone else comes to talk to them, they move, get distracted, then the photographer finally decides to take the picture and Sims are not where you wanted them. It worked ok sometimes and really badly others. I had to switch free will off, and reset Sims over and over. I even repaired my game but it continued.
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    Origin ID is: AlbaWaterhouse
    All my creations are CC free.
  • AlbaWaterhouseAlbaWaterhouse Posts: 3,953 Member
    Lionflash wrote: »
    Hey, stupid question:

    Did they add any photography related club activities if you have the Get Together pack?

    Sorry I didn't think about checking that out and I'm not on my computer now.
    Origin ID is: AlbaWaterhouse
    All my creations are CC free.
  • YunaYuna Posts: 178 Member
    I do like the buy mode stuff. but still no spiral stairs. /sadface

  • Pamtastic72Pamtastic72 Posts: 2,938 Member
    Thanks to EA for sending me an early access code

    First of all, the gameplay is very wonky. It can take forever to get everyone to pose and then to get the photographer to take the picture, by the time the picture is going to be taken, the "models" have moved from their position, started chatting to each other, etc
    There is a lot of waiting and reseting going on if you want to get nice pictures.

    There is an object in bb that is placed on the ground that is supposed to make photo subjects stay put as you pose them and take photos. Did you try using that, or is it bugged and not working?

    Yes, I used it and it is buggy. They wait around then someone else comes to talk to them, they move, get distracted, then the photographer finally decides to take the picture and Sims are not where you wanted them. It worked ok sometimes and really badly others. I had to switch free will off, and reset Sims over and over. I even repaired my game but it continued.
    I play my game free of mods and cc.

    Darn. Thanks for the reply. :)
  • AnmirlaAnmirla Posts: 3,625 Member
    Yuna wrote: »
    I do like the buy mode stuff. but still no spiral stairs. /sadface

    This might be coming in RoM. It would fit with Spellcaster builds.

    Thank you AlbaWaterhouse for the fair review and the heads up on issues.
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  • ListentoToppDoggListentoToppDogg Posts: 2,102 Member
    "The revamping of the photography skill (which was VERY necessary) together with the addition of a new branch on the freelance career should have all been patched in for everyone."

    100% Totally agreed on this right here and that's one of the main reasons why I personally will not be purchasing this pack.
  • MaddieplaysgamesMaddieplaysgames Posts: 125 Member
    Yes!!!!
  • kaylin205kaylin205 Posts: 383 Member
    They didn't add a photography studio lot option. Why? Everything new with this and advertising to create your own studio then not adding a lot option makes me so mad.
  • BlueR0seBlueR0se Posts: 991 Member
    Overall, it is really only 10 euros/dollars and it has pretty cool Build/Buy items but the ethics behind this pack should not be ignored or covered by beautiful windows and shiny leather jackets.

    This. 1000000x

    I'm happy they're putting more focus on gameplay for stuff packs (although the CAS seems to be super weak this time around, which ironic since it's supposed to be a fashion-pack), but the recycled and re-pay for content is soooo ridiculous.
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