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  • squirrelwithacupsquirrelwithacup Posts: 10,298 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Today's Q Q is:
    Your three most recent emojis are your main personality traits.

    👌💁‍♀️😁

    I guess I'm like an 'okay' and 'whatever' person. And if everything goes south, just grin about it. XD

    👀🐶❤

    I look at dogs and love them. Accurate.
  • ChocoCubChocoCub Posts: 6,224 Member
    edited August 7
    ChocoCub wrote: »

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    lol that's why in maths they use "/" to indicate a division so there's no room for ambiguity. Either 8/(2(2+2)) = 1 or (8/2)*(2+2) = 16
    It's the poor formulation with the "÷" that leads to different modes of interpretation. It's the creator of this question begging for trouble 🙃

    It's not ambiguous though. You need to do the division first either way

    It is. There are multiple ways of reading "a÷bc". Is this a/(bc) = a(bc)^-1 or (a/b)c = ac/b = (ac)b^-1 and in order to prevent ambiguity like this in a simple equation shown above, one should always include brackets to let people precisely know which is the denominator. "Always add parentheses to delineate compound denominator". That's also exactly how Excel works out its equation.

    This expression is therefore wrong. It cannot be solved using the normal order of operation and has to corrected first.

    https://math.berkeley.edu/~gbergman/misc/numbers/ord_ops.html
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  • gameplay9098gameplay9098 Posts: 7,895 Member
    edited August 7
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    lol that's why in maths they use "/" to indicate a division so there's no room for ambiguity. Either 8/(2(2+2)) = 1 or (8/2)*(2+2) = 16
    It's the poor formulation with the "÷" that leads to different modes of interpretation. It's the creator of this question begging for trouble 🙃

    It's not ambiguous though. You need to do the division first either way

    It is. There are multiple ways of reading "a÷bc". Is this a/(bc) = a(bc)^-1 or (a/b)c = ac/b = (ac)b^-1 and in order to prevent ambiguity like this in a simple equation shown above, one should always include brackets to let people precisely know which is the denominator. "Always add parentheses to delineate compound denominator". That's also exactly how Excel works out its equation.

    This expression is therefore wrong. It cannot be solved using the normal order of operation and has to corrected first.

    https://math.berkeley.edu/~gbergman/misc/numbers/ord_ops.html

    I solved it on paper just fine, i got 16 doing both 8÷2 and 8/2 :/

    Edit: I showed the image to my math teacher and she confirmed it: 16.
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  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    edited August 7
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    b0c96229b85541b62104da09089fce7b3866a4bc.jpg

    I got 1 and I haven't done math in don't know how many years. How do you even get 16...? XD

    You do the bracket first and you get 1... right? I got 1 too :joy:

    I read the comments and some people did it like (8/2) x (2+2).

    Distribution is multiplication, and the order for division vs. Multiplication is whichever comes first (division in this case) so you solve the () while you divide 8 by 2 and you get
    4×4=16

    I agree with Dekay. Obviously you solve for the ones in the bracket and you get 4. Then what you need to do is to multiply it immediately by the 2 right in front of the bracket, which gives you 8. Then you move the way outwards and solve 8 over 8 which gives 1.

    Essentially 8/(2(2+2)) and if it’s sixteen it would be 8/2 multiplied by (2+2)

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    Wait, then how do you do stuff like simultaneous equations like this? You will be wrong if you don't multiply the 2 with the four first. If you write it in fraction, it will be clear you have to divide the 8 by whatever that comes after the division sign. XD

    I don't know what they all teach at your school. But over here if they write the question like this and you say 16, you will get a big fat cross in your paper cuz they did it to trick you. 💁‍♀️And they will be like, "got 'em!". 😂

    I'm also seeing a lot of the PEMDAS thing going around. Yeah, we don't learn that here. 😂 All we know is do the multiplication/division before addition/subtraction.
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  • gameplay9098gameplay9098 Posts: 7,895 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    b0c96229b85541b62104da09089fce7b3866a4bc.jpg

    I got 1 and I haven't done math in don't know how many years. How do you even get 16...? XD

    You do the bracket first and you get 1... right? I got 1 too :joy:

    I read the comments and some people did it like (8/2) x (2+2).

    Distribution is multiplication, and the order for division vs. Multiplication is whichever comes first (division in this case) so you solve the () while you divide 8 by 2 and you get
    4×4=16

    I agree with Dekay. Obviously you solve for the ones in the bracket and you get 4. Then what you need to do is to multiply it immediately by the 2 right in front of the bracket, which gives you 8. Then you move the way outwards and solve 8 over 8 which gives 1.

    Essentially 8/(2(2+2)) and if it’s sixteen it would be 8/2 multiplied by (2+2)

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    Wait, then how do you do stuff like simultaneous equations like this? You will be wrong if you don't multiply the 2 with the four first. If you write it in fraction, it will be clear you have to divide the 8 by whatever that comes after the division sign. XD

    I don't know what they all teach at your school. But over here if they write the question like this and you say 16, you will get a big fat cross in your paper cuz they did it to trick you. 💁‍♀️And they will be like, "got 'em!". 😂

    I'm also seeing a lot of the PEMDAS thing going around. Yeah, we don't learn that here. 😂 All we know is do the multiplication/division before addition/subtraction.

    Distribution is just a form a multiplication. Math is universal, and my teacher doesn't work at my school.
    Soon as you solve the brackets, which you have to do first, you can remove them.
    You get 8÷2×4. And between division and multiplication, you need to do whichever comes first. In this case, division.
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  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    edited August 8
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    b0c96229b85541b62104da09089fce7b3866a4bc.jpg

    I got 1 and I haven't done math in don't know how many years. How do you even get 16...? XD

    You do the bracket first and you get 1... right? I got 1 too :joy:

    I read the comments and some people did it like (8/2) x (2+2).

    Distribution is multiplication, and the order for division vs. Multiplication is whichever comes first (division in this case) so you solve the () while you divide 8 by 2 and you get
    4×4=16

    I agree with Dekay. Obviously you solve for the ones in the bracket and you get 4. Then what you need to do is to multiply it immediately by the 2 right in front of the bracket, which gives you 8. Then you move the way outwards and solve 8 over 8 which gives 1.

    Essentially 8/(2(2+2)) and if it’s sixteen it would be 8/2 multiplied by (2+2)

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    Wait, then how do you do stuff like simultaneous equations like this? You will be wrong if you don't multiply the 2 with the four first. If you write it in fraction, it will be clear you have to divide the 8 by whatever that comes after the division sign. XD

    I don't know what they all teach at your school. But over here if they write the question like this and you say 16, you will get a big fat cross in your paper cuz they did it to trick you. 💁‍♀️And they will be like, "got 'em!". 😂

    I'm also seeing a lot of the PEMDAS thing going around. Yeah, we don't learn that here. 😂 All we know is do the multiplication/division before addition/subtraction.

    Distribution is just a form a multiplication. Math is universal, and my teacher doesn't work at my school.
    Soon as you solve the brackets, which you have to do first, you can remove them.
    You get 8÷2×4. And between division and multiplication, you need to do whichever comes first. In this case, division.

    Clearly this thing doesn't prove that math is universal, but I guess it's also how the problem is written out. Other people may interpret it differently. Like how some countries spell "color" but some "colour".

    But, we don't learn it like this. We don't remove the bracket after doing what's inside it. We multiply straightaway with the number or item next to the bracket. I get where you're coming from but over here, we write it as a fraction straight away.

    So what you're seeing here is to be written as 8 over 2(4). 🤷‍♀️ That's how we do it.

    Now, we can argue all day about this but I'm just saying here in Singapore, we do it how Choco and I do it.

    If the question was 8÷2x4, then, yes it's 16. But how I read the question and how we learn to solve an equation like that is like this: 8÷[2(4)]. Makes sense? XD
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  • LyricSimsz15LyricSimsz15 Posts: 12,716 Member
    Anyone want a spine, mine's hurting me

    honestly anyone want some bones in general, mine just hate me :(
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  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    edited August 8
    Anyone want a spine, mine's hurting me

    honestly anyone want some bones in general, mine just hate me :(

    That's what you get for swimming.
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  • LyricSimsz15LyricSimsz15 Posts: 12,716 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Anyone want a spine, mine's hurting me

    honestly anyone want some bones in general, mine just hate me :(

    That's what you get for swimming.

    theyve been this way for months
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  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Anyone want a spine, mine's hurting me

    honestly anyone want some bones in general, mine just hate me :(

    That's what you get for swimming.

    theyve been this way for months

    That's what you get for not going out much. 😂
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  • gameplay9098gameplay9098 Posts: 7,895 Member
    edited August 8
    DeKay wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    b0c96229b85541b62104da09089fce7b3866a4bc.jpg

    I got 1 and I haven't done math in don't know how many years. How do you even get 16...? XD

    You do the bracket first and you get 1... right? I got 1 too :joy:

    I read the comments and some people did it like (8/2) x (2+2).

    Distribution is multiplication, and the order for division vs. Multiplication is whichever comes first (division in this case) so you solve the () while you divide 8 by 2 and you get
    4×4=16

    I agree with Dekay. Obviously you solve for the ones in the bracket and you get 4. Then what you need to do is to multiply it immediately by the 2 right in front of the bracket, which gives you 8. Then you move the way outwards and solve 8 over 8 which gives 1.

    Essentially 8/(2(2+2)) and if it’s sixteen it would be 8/2 multiplied by (2+2)

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    Wait, then how do you do stuff like simultaneous equations like this? You will be wrong if you don't multiply the 2 with the four first. If you write it in fraction, it will be clear you have to divide the 8 by whatever that comes after the division sign. XD

    I don't know what they all teach at your school. But over here if they write the question like this and you say 16, you will get a big fat cross in your paper cuz they did it to trick you. 💁‍♀️And they will be like, "got 'em!". 😂

    I'm also seeing a lot of the PEMDAS thing going around. Yeah, we don't learn that here. 😂 All we know is do the multiplication/division before addition/subtraction.

    Distribution is just a form a multiplication. Math is universal, and my teacher doesn't work at my school.
    Soon as you solve the brackets, which you have to do first, you can remove them.
    You get 8÷2×4. And between division and multiplication, you need to do whichever comes first. In this case, division.

    Clearly this thing doesn't prove that math is universal, but I guess it's also how the problem is written out. Other people may interpret it differently. Like how some countries spell "color" but some "colour".

    But, we don't learn it like this. We don't remove the bracket after doing what's inside it. We multiply straightaway with the number or item next to the bracket. I get where you're coming from but over here, we write it as a fraction straight away.

    So what you're seeing here is to be written as 8 over 2(4). 🤷‍♀️ That's how we do it.

    Now, we can argue all day about this but I'm just saying here in Singapore, we do it how Choco and I do it.

    If the question was 8÷2x4, then, yes it's 16. But how I read the question and how we learn to solve an equation like that is like this: 8÷[2(4)]. Makes sense? XD

    Yeah i didn't mean to turn this into an argument, i just get a little too excited when it comes to Maths and Physics XD
    Anyone want a spine, mine's hurting me

    honestly anyone want some bones in general, mine just hate me :(

    I'm having issues walking because my leg is so twisted it looks broken 😖
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  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    b0c96229b85541b62104da09089fce7b3866a4bc.jpg

    I got 1 and I haven't done math in don't know how many years. How do you even get 16...? XD

    You do the bracket first and you get 1... right? I got 1 too :joy:

    I read the comments and some people did it like (8/2) x (2+2).

    Distribution is multiplication, and the order for division vs. Multiplication is whichever comes first (division in this case) so you solve the () while you divide 8 by 2 and you get
    4×4=16

    I agree with Dekay. Obviously you solve for the ones in the bracket and you get 4. Then what you need to do is to multiply it immediately by the 2 right in front of the bracket, which gives you 8. Then you move the way outwards and solve 8 over 8 which gives 1.

    Essentially 8/(2(2+2)) and if it’s sixteen it would be 8/2 multiplied by (2+2)

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    Wait, then how do you do stuff like simultaneous equations like this? You will be wrong if you don't multiply the 2 with the four first. If you write it in fraction, it will be clear you have to divide the 8 by whatever that comes after the division sign. XD

    I don't know what they all teach at your school. But over here if they write the question like this and you say 16, you will get a big fat cross in your paper cuz they did it to trick you. 💁‍♀️And they will be like, "got 'em!". 😂

    I'm also seeing a lot of the PEMDAS thing going around. Yeah, we don't learn that here. 😂 All we know is do the multiplication/division before addition/subtraction.

    Distribution is just a form a multiplication. Math is universal, and my teacher doesn't work at my school.
    Soon as you solve the brackets, which you have to do first, you can remove them.
    You get 8÷2×4. And between division and multiplication, you need to do whichever comes first. In this case, division.

    Clearly this thing doesn't prove that math is universal, but I guess it's also how the problem is written out. Other people may interpret it differently. Like how some countries spell "color" but some "colour".

    But, we don't learn it like this. We don't remove the bracket after doing what's inside it. We multiply straightaway with the number or item next to the bracket. I get where you're coming from but over here, we write it as a fraction straight away.

    So what you're seeing here is to be written as 8 over 2(4). 🤷‍♀️ That's how we do it.

    Now, we can argue all day about this but I'm just saying here in Singapore, we do it how Choco and I do it.

    If the question was 8÷2x4, then, yes it's 16. But how I read the question and how we learn to solve an equation like that is like this: 8÷[2(4)]. Makes sense? XD

    Yeah i didn't mean to turn this into an argument, i just get a little too excited when it comes to Maths and Physics XD
    Anyone want a spine, mine's hurting me

    honestly anyone want some bones in general, mine just hate me :(

    I'm having issues walking because my leg is so twisted it looks broken 😖

    Nah, it's fine. You know what's funny? Is that I would get '16' if the way they wrote the question as: 8 ÷ 2 x (2+2). LOL. But either way, in exams, we rarely get questions like this where it's like a+b/3-5x2/4, where it's like a while string of nonsense.
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  • gameplay9098gameplay9098 Posts: 7,895 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    ChocoCub wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    b0c96229b85541b62104da09089fce7b3866a4bc.jpg

    I got 1 and I haven't done math in don't know how many years. How do you even get 16...? XD

    You do the bracket first and you get 1... right? I got 1 too :joy:

    I read the comments and some people did it like (8/2) x (2+2).

    Distribution is multiplication, and the order for division vs. Multiplication is whichever comes first (division in this case) so you solve the () while you divide 8 by 2 and you get
    4×4=16

    I agree with Dekay. Obviously you solve for the ones in the bracket and you get 4. Then what you need to do is to multiply it immediately by the 2 right in front of the bracket, which gives you 8. Then you move the way outwards and solve 8 over 8 which gives 1.

    Essentially 8/(2(2+2)) and if it’s sixteen it would be 8/2 multiplied by (2+2)

    You solve brackets first, so you can remove them. Tha leaves you with
    8÷2×4
    You need to solve the division first because it comes first, so you get 4×4=16

    Wait, then how do you do stuff like simultaneous equations like this? You will be wrong if you don't multiply the 2 with the four first. If you write it in fraction, it will be clear you have to divide the 8 by whatever that comes after the division sign. XD

    I don't know what they all teach at your school. But over here if they write the question like this and you say 16, you will get a big fat cross in your paper cuz they did it to trick you. 💁‍♀️And they will be like, "got 'em!". 😂

    I'm also seeing a lot of the PEMDAS thing going around. Yeah, we don't learn that here. 😂 All we know is do the multiplication/division before addition/subtraction.

    Distribution is just a form a multiplication. Math is universal, and my teacher doesn't work at my school.
    Soon as you solve the brackets, which you have to do first, you can remove them.
    You get 8÷2×4. And between division and multiplication, you need to do whichever comes first. In this case, division.

    Clearly this thing doesn't prove that math is universal, but I guess it's also how the problem is written out. Other people may interpret it differently. Like how some countries spell "color" but some "colour".

    But, we don't learn it like this. We don't remove the bracket after doing what's inside it. We multiply straightaway with the number or item next to the bracket. I get where you're coming from but over here, we write it as a fraction straight away.

    So what you're seeing here is to be written as 8 over 2(4). 🤷‍♀️ That's how we do it.

    Now, we can argue all day about this but I'm just saying here in Singapore, we do it how Choco and I do it.

    If the question was 8÷2x4, then, yes it's 16. But how I read the question and how we learn to solve an equation like that is like this: 8÷[2(4)]. Makes sense? XD

    Yeah i didn't mean to turn this into an argument, i just get a little too excited when it comes to Maths and Physics XD
    Anyone want a spine, mine's hurting me

    honestly anyone want some bones in general, mine just hate me :(

    I'm having issues walking because my leg is so twisted it looks broken 😖

    Nah, it's fine. You know what's funny? Is that I would get '16' if the way they wrote the question as: 8 ÷ 2 x (2+2). LOL. But either way, in exams, we rarely get questions like this where it's like a+b/3-5x2/4, where it's like a while string of nonsense.

    We're starting to get those in tests because they're making us take "Elementary Maths" And it's just a bunch of nonsense stuff we'd do in 5th grade. Like, a mutant 5th grade
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  • ZinniavanillaZinniavanilla Posts: 11,231 Member
    I've never actually made buttercream flowers. I'm trying it for the first time tonight for my moms birthday. The... heat is pretty unfortunate, it makes it hard to pipe.
  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    Today's Q Q is:

    Have you ever snuck out of your house?


    Nope.


    I've never actually made buttercream flowers. I'm trying it for the first time tonight for my moms birthday. The... heat is pretty unfortunate, it makes it hard to pipe.

    I understand that struggle.
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  • bellagorillabellagorilla Posts: 4,943 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Today's Q Q is:

    Have you ever snuck out of your house?


    Nope.


    I've never actually made buttercream flowers. I'm trying it for the first time tonight for my moms birthday. The... heat is pretty unfortunate, it makes it hard to pipe.

    I understand that struggle.

    Nope.
  • squirrelwithacupsquirrelwithacup Posts: 10,298 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Today's Q Q is:

    Have you ever snuck out of your house?


    Nope.


    I've never actually made buttercream flowers. I'm trying it for the first time tonight for my moms birthday. The... heat is pretty unfortunate, it makes it hard to pipe.

    I understand that struggle.

    Nope. And I've never had a reason to. :joy:
  • ZinniavanillaZinniavanilla Posts: 11,231 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Today's Q Q is:

    Have you ever snuck out of your house?


    Nope.


    I've never actually made buttercream flowers. I'm trying it for the first time tonight for my moms birthday. The... heat is pretty unfortunate, it makes it hard to pipe.

    I understand that struggle.

    No.
  • LyricSimsz15LyricSimsz15 Posts: 12,716 Member
    all i want rn is to make the protagonists of the show/fandom i'm obsessed with as sims but
    why do actors
    have such hard faces to replicate in sims :c
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  • squirrelwithacupsquirrelwithacup Posts: 10,298 Member
    all i want rn is to make the protagonists of the show/fandom i'm obsessed with as sims but
    why do actors
    have such hard faces to replicate in sims :c

    Ooh what show/fandom?
  • gameplay9098gameplay9098 Posts: 7,895 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Today's Q Q is:

    Have you ever snuck out of your house?


    Nope.


    I've never actually made buttercream flowers. I'm trying it for the first time tonight for my moms birthday. The... heat is pretty unfortunate, it makes it hard to pipe.

    I understand that struggle.

    I don't think i could.
    all i want rn is to make the protagonists of the show/fandom i'm obsessed with as sims but
    why do actors
    have such hard faces to replicate in sims :c

    Ohhh i can help! I know a bunch about face anatomy, they sure fit in one of the types.
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  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    Whaddup, y'all.
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  • gameplay9098gameplay9098 Posts: 7,895 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Whaddup, y'all.

    Olá humano
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  • DeKayDeKay Posts: 53,050 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    Whaddup, y'all.

    Olá humano

    It's been kinda quiet today here...
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  • gameplay9098gameplay9098 Posts: 7,895 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    DeKay wrote: »
    Whaddup, y'all.

    Olá humano

    It's been kinda quiet today here...

    True.
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