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Too much Cursing -- Parenthood

troshalomtroshalom Posts: 1,095 Member
I reluctantly purchased the parenthood pack, because I had an erratic sim with an alien toddler whose relationship was horrid. I didn't have a way to discipline her nor improve his parenting skills.

However, I regret adding it, because now everyone is cursing all the time for no reason: Sweet reasonable Patchy, is swearing up a storm. Beautiful sweet children are cussing for random reasons. Adults who aren't traited with being hotheaded or evil are always cussing. Toddlers are extremely angry and defiant all the time. I have my sims visit homes with toddlers and those babies are always angry, destroying the doll house, punching the stuff animal and throwing paint everywhere. Come on, it is too much.

I get it that parents need to disciple their children, but can we dial back this constant cursing and slinging of paint everywhere?

In one sim family I invited children to a wedding and before the bride and groom could take pictures and walk down the aisles these random children were throwing paint, flour, and chocolate down the aisle! I had my sim tell them to all go home, but it was sad, because I really wanted them at the wedding.

I love playing generations, and was enamored with the dimensions EA gave to the toddlers in TS4. But I hate what Parenthood has done to toddlers and children.


In another sim family my alien sim and his human girlfriend had triplets. They married after the toddlers became children and moved in together. The children learned absolutely no values while with their mother (I wasn't playing her household). After a few sim days, I just aged the kids up to teenagers because I couldn't take the constant cussing and paint slinging happening multiple times a day. And don't forget about the monsters under the bed several times a night. Now in households I play that I want to raise a generation I no longer use single beds, I only use doubles because those dog on monster events were happening several times a night and my sims were always tired. Even when the sim child befriended the monster, they would be awaken again the same night by the monster and be terrified. Too much.


EA, I am all for realistic game play, but not every child/toddler in every family behaves like this. I thought the traits were supposed to control the child's behavior along with guidance. Seriously, in another sim family, the baby aged up to toddler and 5 minutes after learning to walk started slinging paint on the floor. The kid just literally learned how to walk, like 5 minutes ago was in a crib, where did it get the paint?

Finally, I have had enough of toddlers waking up out of a dead sleep and waking up every single adult that is not a member of thier household. Seriously, my sim and his girlfriend along with their twin toddlers went on vacation. The twins woke their father up every time he went to sleep. Mother sleeping right next to him in the bed, she doesn't bat an eye nor wake up.

I created a lot with tents, etc that mimics a camp site for a home world, and invited 7 sims over to the lot including the twin toddlers. Whenver adult sims, who weren't members of their household, would fall asleep they would cry and wake them up and then go back into the tent and sleep.

This is cruel and unusual punishment EA. Parenthood has sucked all of the fun out of toddlers that I had before I purchased that game pack.


Please tweak whatever code, if/then scenario you have in place for toddlers and children when it comes to bad behavior. It is just too much.
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  • AquaGamer1212AquaGamer1212 Posts: 5,417 Member
    That sounds like a YOUR game problem as I’ve never experienced that much cussing myself. Why should everyone else have their game changed because a few people don’t like it, that’s not fair.
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  • SimsandraSimsandra Posts: 315 Member
    There is a night light you can place above the kids bed. I don't know the english name, but it makes the monster to never appear again. It might help with toddlers nightmares too, I always place it in combination with the coolala bear who sits beside the toddlers bed. Always works for me, everyone can sleep at night :)

  • invisiblgirlinvisiblgirl Posts: 1,709 Member
    The only time I've seen cursing is when kids or teens are going through the 'loud and obnoxious' phase. I'm still annoyed that parents can't discipline the kids during this phase, and it seems like all my kids go through it once when they're kids and once when they're teens. (Why can't they have the 'unbearable sadness' phase, which is so cute? No, it's always the 'loud and obnoxious' phase.)

    In any case, I don't think I've ever seen an adult curse, and outside of the phase, I haven't seen it with my kids and teens, either. Mod issue?
    I just want things to match. :'(
  • troshalomtroshalom Posts: 1,095 Member
    The only time I've seen cursing is when kids or teens are going through the 'loud and obnoxious' phase. I'm still annoyed that parents can't discipline the kids during this phase, and it seems like all my kids go through it once when they're kids and once when they're teens. (Why can't they have the 'unbearable sadness' phase, which is so cute? No, it's always the 'loud and obnoxious' phase.)

    In any case, I don't think I've ever seen an adult curse, and outside of the phase, I haven't seen it with my kids and teens, either. Mod issue?

    I am not using any mods
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  • troshalomtroshalom Posts: 1,095 Member
    edited February 2019
    That sounds like a YOUR game problem as I’ve never experienced that much cussing myself. Why should everyone else have their game changed because a few people don’t like it, that’s not fair.

    …. I agree to disagree
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  • troshalomtroshalom Posts: 1,095 Member
    The only time I've seen cursing is when kids or teens are going through the 'loud and obnoxious' phase. I'm still annoyed that parents can't discipline the kids during this phase, and it seems like all my kids go through it once when they're kids and once when they're teens. (Why can't they have the 'unbearable sadness' phase, which is so cute? No, it's always the 'loud and obnoxious' phase.)

    In any case, I don't think I've ever seen an adult curse, and outside of the phase, I haven't seen it with my kids and teens, either. Mod issue?

    Do you have Seasons installed too? And Get together

    I have seen foul language not just from my active household but other sims around town too.
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  • luxsylvanluxsylvan Posts: 1,922 Member
    Sims are more likely to curse when they're tense. For younger ones, you need to teach them better manners and emotional control to solve this. It hasn't been too much of a problem for me, or the messes. As long as your kids are on the active household, you can cancel these interactions before they happen. I will agree that it's annoying when non active household Sims make messes though. My kid's friends come over and are horrors. Still, even that isn't every five minutes, it's happened once or twice.

    Even with out Parenthood when Sims were angry or tense they'd shout or stomp their feet. I haven't had a ton of angry/defiant toddlers unless they're independent, or another trait that includes defiance. As far as anger goes, sugar will make them angry.
  • SelinaKylesSelinaKyles Posts: 4,337 Member
    troshalom wrote: »
    The only time I've seen cursing is when kids or teens are going through the 'loud and obnoxious' phase. I'm still annoyed that parents can't discipline the kids during this phase, and it seems like all my kids go through it once when they're kids and once when they're teens. (Why can't they have the 'unbearable sadness' phase, which is so cute? No, it's always the 'loud and obnoxious' phase.)

    In any case, I don't think I've ever seen an adult curse, and outside of the phase, I haven't seen it with my kids and teens, either. Mod issue?

    Do you have Seasons installed too? And Get together

    I have seen foul language not just from my active household but other sims around town too.

    I have those installed and don’t see a lot of cursing. I’m actually making my sims curse when they’re angry 😅 if they’re cursing alot, try reporting to the bugs section in the ea forum.
    https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/The-Sims-4-Bugs
  • EA_RtasEA_Rtas Posts: 2,875 EA Community Manager
    Hey folks just putting it out there to keep this discussion respectful okay? There's no need to get aggressive or overly defensive in here.
  • marcel21marcel21 Posts: 12,341 Member
    The only issue I have the toddlers and kids constantly making a MESS :#
    Cursing not been an issue for me.
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  • SimpatsyannSimpatsyann Posts: 1,308 Member
    Simsandra wrote: »
    There is a night light you can place above the kids bed. I don't know the english name, but it makes the monster to never appear again. It might help with toddlers nightmares too, I always place it in combination with the coolala bear who sits beside the toddlers bed. Always works for me, everyone can sleep at night :)

    The nightlight won't help toddlers, but reading them to sleep and raising their thinking skills will help alleviate the sleeping problems.

    As far as the mess making goes, I either cancel it out when I see it starting, or have the parent discipline the child. They can also do it for inappropriate "language."
  • invisiblgirlinvisiblgirl Posts: 1,709 Member
    Simsandra wrote: »
    There is a night light you can place above the kids bed. I don't know the english name, but it makes the monster to never appear again. It might help with toddlers nightmares too, I always place it in combination with the coolala bear who sits beside the toddlers bed. Always works for me, everyone can sleep at night :)

    The nightlight won't help toddlers, but reading them to sleep and raising their thinking skills will help alleviate the sleeping problems.

    As far as the mess making goes, I either cancel it out when I see it starting, or have the parent discipline the child. They can also do it for inappropriate "language."

    It also helps to play the lullaby station on a stereo in the toddler's room. (It won't keep them awake.) It's been awhile since one of my toddlers has had a nightmare, and in that case, I couldn't read her to sleep because there was a thunderstorm. (There's a bug that makes the toddler try to 'run inside' when you read them to sleep during a thunderstorm.)
    I just want things to match. :'(
  • zenkitty33zenkitty33 Posts: 5 New Member
    i have the carefree trait on my teen to try to stop the cussing & she still will not stop. & i'm truly sick of it too. it's completely out of control & she does it without even being in a bad mood. this lax parenting is a pain in the 🐸🐸🐸🐸. the father sim was able to ground her twice & after saving the game & coming back to play the next day the option was gone. parents do still discipline bratty children not everyone lets them be jerks & run the house like tyrants in real like a feak'n game should give us this option. haven't even played the pack mush due to this issue, but now i'm doing to complete all aspirations for my sim. wish i'd never bought it.
  • TiarellaTiarella Posts: 661 Member
    @zenkitty33 - you might enjoy your game more if you cheat your child-sims' character values to the maximum-positive level. IME they'll be far less likely to curse, then.
  • DeadInsid3_plur2EDMDeadInsid3_plur2EDM Posts: 44 Member
    WAIT HOW DO THEY CURSE I NEVER NOTICED THIS LOL, I FEEL SO OUT OF THE LOOP :'(
  • TiarellaTiarella Posts: 661 Member
    @DeadInsid3_plur2EDM - do you have the parenthood pack? That allows sims to have character traits, which allow a wider field of responses. I forget which character trait allows your sims to curse, though; was it argumentative, insensitive, impolite (not the exact term used but close enough), or one of the other two? There are 5 positive & 5 negative traits. Anyway, yes, kids & teens experiment with these behaviors, esp. if you're not controlling them. I have some sim-kids who are full-green on all 5 positive traits who always act out when I've rotated to another HH & invited them over. :disappointed: I use MCCC to send them home right away when they act like that!
  • DeadInsid3_plur2EDMDeadInsid3_plur2EDM Posts: 44 Member
    @Tiarella Yeah I do, I've had it for quite some time. Could it be because I try to raise them with all the right traits lol? For instance, I tend to make majority of my sims well behaved, caring, and respectful well the kids anyways..should I start like making them rude and impolite lol?
  • TiarellaTiarella Posts: 661 Member
    :lol: Would you enjoy having rude sims in your game? I stopped giving any sims the lazy trait 'cuz I got tired of cleaning up after the slobs! --always having to send someone to flush the toilet 'cuz Lazybones couldn't be bothered! :rage:

    If you are a rotational player, though, even well-behaved child sims will act out if they visit while you're playing another HH. Perhaps this will be adjusted in a patch, at some point, but as of the June 18th patch, they're pretty bad in my game. (I haven't updated to the July patch; waiting for August's patch.)

    I am not a programmer, but to me, 'our' sims don't act like themselves when the game is treating them like npcs, so I tend to think the ones I see out & about are temporary clones of 'my' sims, & not the real thing. Any relationship changes effectuated while the temp-clones are gallivanting about get transferred to the real sims, so...it's only how I explain away the discrepancies, & not how the programming works.
  • izecsonizecson Posts: 2,875 Member
    edited July 2019
    Trait doesnt have any impact with the new interaction added to parenthood, sad really. My sims also swear all the time whenever they got tense and continue doing that even after being grounded which in itself give another tense moodlet
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,496 Member
    If I see that one of my Sims has 'bad words coming on' I quickly derail the colorful rant by either having them write in their personal journal or go for a jog. So far, not too much cursing going on in my game, and one household had three teen boys!
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  • Pamtastic72Pamtastic72 Posts: 4,545 Member
    That sounds like a YOUR game problem as I’ve never experienced that much cussing myself. Why should everyone else have their game changed because a few people don’t like it, that’s not fair.

    This! I am so tired of people advocating for features I paid for to be removed. I like the cursing and the mess making. Life is messy and people curse. They don't say any actual words I mean seriously. Doesn't anyone watch pack videos or LP s as research before a purchase? Geeze. I have paid for so many features i like just to have them nixed later it's ridiculous.
  • PlainConeyPlainConey Posts: 40 Member
    I'm raising a teen in one of my households with all the right traits, but she's just so TENSE with capital letters everyday - hence the non-stop forbidden words. I do agree that these kiddies are a headache, but it's also why I let them be on their own, LOL.
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  • jadonbakesjadonbakes Posts: 294 Member
    Oh the paint throwing! It's a nightmare.
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