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I disagree with the idea people should accept this, but totally support the notion of speaking with your money.
These packs, to me, are not worth full price. Island Living for $40? What a joke. It’s a game pack at best and it honestly lacks gameplay in itself.
I don’t pay full price for any packs anymore because Maxis has disappointed me far too many times. When they start making The Sims a fun life simulator again, I will 100% support them, and every dollar they ask for.
I think they introduced vampires early in TS3's run because it is the most requested occult type. Plus it seems to fit very well with the city theme. They even had their own secret night club. Very cool! Then when they appeared again in Supernatural, it was to add more features for them and to show how they relate to the other occult types. So it wasn't a mere re-hash.Also note that this wasn't a free giveaway - you still had to buy either EP to get vampires.
With the stuff they gave away for free in TS4 - they didn't add new features to them like for vampires in TS3. It was just a copy and paste job. I think that's why the people who paid for it are upset. But really, to me they should have been upset from the very beginning. All the packs have recolored items they have already purchased from previous packs! Just in different colors! That's why I never bought anything - I would have felt so ripped off!
No, the best way to make EAxis listen is to stop buying anything in the TS4 iteration. As long as people buy them, no law suit is going to dissuade them.
It's not like I want EA out of business though - I just don't want to encourage them to continue TS4 with my money. I'm still willing to buy stuff for TS3 and other The Sims products and spin-offs though. It would be great if they re-release or remaster The Sims Ultimate Collection and all The Sims 2 Stories too. I'd definitely buy them.
The look of sheer terror is priceless, lol!
That Island Living trailer and they way they leaked it was so exciting though! The ploy almost got me! But yeah, I resisted the urge to pre-order too!
The look of sheer terror is priceless, lol!
That's not true. They updated vampires in Late Night when they released Supernatural. Supernatural still retained some unique vampire social interactions but the hunting system and powers etc, were updated for Late Night as well.
I was pretty hyped when I saw how gorgeous both the world and mermaids were, but my fears that both would turn out shallow and lacking in content held me back from pre-ordering, and we see how both turned out... 👀
Can someone find this and link?
Ah gosh! I totally agree. I mean, if it's swatches we're paying for, I can get that for free from TSR... Bugga paying for it tbh.
I believe this is the EA ToS that also includes The Sims (correct me if I'm wrong someone!).
https://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/
Ok, correction, that is the ToS for the use of EA owned forums NOT the sims 4 game. If you want to read the Sims 4 game ToS, load up Origin and visit the Sims 4 store page and you will see it (see pictures). The EA User agreement will link you to here: https://www.ea.com/legal
And this is a screen shot of the T&C you agree to when you install. The buttons at the bottom will link it to the referenced additional T&Cs.
If pack content can just be taken and put into base game what is point of buying a pack?
but as they already did it they should compensate for the people that bought those packs
since its also wrong to just take that out after putting it in
so they should add new things for the people who have the packs
you take out photography from get to work? - you put new skill/career to get to work
you take jacket out of get famous? - you put new clothing item or jacket to get famous
you take fire dance from Get Together and put it in IL too? making people pay for same thing TWICE?
- you add new dance/activity to get together or IL or actually both because thats just so??? WHY?
they could have easily skipped that fire dance and put hula and everyone would be happy
and there would be zero problems. zero. go to the shame corner.
Now since they already put fire dance in IL they can't take it out of IL
and they also can't take it out of GT because thats also wrong and not okay
I think it would only be right to compensate on both packs
add 1 new activity or dance to IL
and 1 new activity or dance to GT
and have these 2 activities/dances not be same.
and the same logic continues to everything else that was taken out of the packs
if you took something out you should add something of same value to make up for it.
because otherwise its like ''oh hey you just paid for nothing have a great day''
Free stuff is not wrong. but taking paid stuff and making it free is not okay.
and making people pay for things twice is also, not okay.
please do something about it.
Yeah you have to look beyond the hype and wait until you see what is actually in the game. I believe most got taken in by the despiction of the artwork and not sure if EA/Maxis put up an disclaimer about it. I was intriqued by at first and knowing how CL turned out It was better to wait.
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Actually, I think you mean you need either one to receive vampires. Also worth noting, unlike clothing, every party had to spend money in either of the two EPs to get them. In Supernatural, upgrade vampires receive is just a bunch of additional minor social interactions and a lifetime reward, amongst potions and obvious Create-A-Vampire. You can't really compare the Vampire offer to the clothing thing, that's been that's been ripped off straight from a payed pack to base game (which is what everyone owns that plays the game).
While one may think that the immortality aspect comes a bit off as MFP tactic, which I do feel they should patched it in Late Night, you at least get the creature (vampires) without the other expansion pack installed.
From the new player's point of view it's a good thing because the 2014 basegame wasn't satisfying.
To be fair, not everybody bought all the packs so they get content they didn't already own.
The free content isn't a reward for the loyal customers who own all the packs.
Good idea. That may enforce the idea to never recycle them
And you're diminishing the fact It's free content just now ( you're speaking in present tense; it wasn't for those who bought it), it's duplicated content. It's reused, meaning it does make a sense when the studio for whatever reason doesn't have the effort to be innovative/creative. People don't care if it's budget problem, time constrain and developer incompetence.
It's doesn't seem like a problem at first, but when you considered that said initial content added onto the price of the pack it originally came from. I haven't bought of any of EP/SP/GP packs, but I understand where people coming from these complaints and myself I do find that a bit indecent.
Aside the issue, you do have great advice. People probably learn now this lesson and perhaps start self-restraining on spending money.
You shouldn't. In your place, I wouldn't buy it until TS4 ends. That's the only way to ensure the rug doesn't get pulled under you, and regain self-respect knowing your not being taken advantage by a ❤️❤️❤️❤️ corporation. Plus, it's not like the copies of DLC aren't gonna disappear anywhere, so as an advice from stranger don't allow yourself to be used by such scummy practices. Believe me, you'll feel better and I know you know that. You're smart to realize and be aware of what EA is going to its fans.
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@Writin_Reg Thats like comparing apples to oranges.
Especially when you mention Sims 2. Not only was that game NOT available for direct purchase in 2014, ONLY people who had a registered copy of a Sims 2 product got the free Ultimate Edition. Have no Sims 2 registered on Origin? Then you did not get it - period. It was not a freebie for everyone, it was a freebie for people who owned the game already.
The DLC they rip from 4 is still very much on sale for the same price as release, although they have taken pieces and added them to the base game. It’s not like a gift set, or the most recent update to a game that’s not being sold, this is straight up taking content people paid for and giving it away for free to new players and claiming it as new content for everyone, when in fact it’s not. If you are OK with the practice that’s your prerogative, but please don’t tell other people how to feel! Thanks