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Is my GTX 1050 Ti too slow for Sims 4?
graventhe
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I have a mid-range gaming PC that can run SkyrimSE and GTA 5 great on high setting, but playing in San Myshuno is slow for me, I mean moving around in this city is sluggish! Other worlds seems fine though, it's noticeable mostly in San Myshuno..is this normal?
I have GTX 1050 Ti and i7-7700 with 16 GB Ram and I dont have script or heavy mods, just very few mods and I always delete the cache..
I have GTX 1050 Ti and i7-7700 with 16 GB Ram and I dont have script or heavy mods, just very few mods and I always delete the cache..
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I hope this doesn't turn into Sims 3 issues all over again..
It really better not. Especially everything we had to give up; open world, CASt, create a world, etc...
On the other hand, San Myshuno has some issues I guess. The festival thing and constantly changing outdoor setting (foodstalls, service NPCs and stuff) cause some glitches and bugs which is probably the reason of some lag in San Myshuno.
This is literally how I feel... The Sims 4 seems to be heading down the same route as Sims 3 did in terms of performance issues. It's just taking a bit longer to get there. When the game was originally released, I remember the developers constantly saying how it's purposely designed this way to perform better than Sims 3 (especially on lower end computers). Meanwhile, even this game is starting to have major performance issues... even if you're playing on a PC that would otherwise be great at running modern day games on the highest settings.
At least Sims 3 had open world and CAST to use as scapegoats for the performance issues. Sims 4 literally has no excuses. Especially since the developers constantly claim the game was intended to be designed for lower end machines. In reality, we're beginning to realize that these games are just being horribly optimized... open world and CAST weren't the culprits for Sims 3's performance issues. It was the lack of optimization from the developers.
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Some advice don't use the fastest speed in San Myshuno, because it will always cause lag there and the lag is getting worse the more you use the fastest speed setting there.
That being said, it's most likely a mix of the game's own issues (esp. large open areas + weather) combined with the resource-hogging issues Windows has been notorious for since the Sims 2 days. (Back in the TS2 days the little manual that came with each game/expansion disc actually had a dedicated section on how to use Windows Task Manager to close the unnecessary background stuff Windows runs by default, like a little secret how-to. It was always really satisfying to check and close something like 20 unneeded background tasks to get my TS2 loading lightning-fast at least until my 20GB of cc loaded around Re-Reticulating Splines, anyway lol). If you know how to use Windows Task Manager, I'd suggest making sure not a lot else unneeded is running when you launch TS4, specifically checking to see what's using a lot of CPU and addressing it from that point (note that System Idle Process is supposed to be a big number - it basically just means how much CPU is unused). Task Manager itself is pretty basic, but the tab you want in there is called Details, and you want to click the column labeled CPU to sort by that usage (Highest to Lowest).
CAVEAT: If you are not familiar with Task Manager or what processes are critical and which are bloat, don't delete/close things without knowing what is what -- there are plenty of helpful tutorials on reputable tech sites that can explain it very easily & which are also much more reliable than random Youtubes essentially suggesting computer lobotomies. If you're not tech savvy at all, I'd suggest asking a friend or relative or coworker who is to help you, don't just tinker blindly.
Advanced/micromanaging stuff, not beginner advice --
I do not think it is your video card as others are saying, looking at this type of game it can be an number of issues such as lack of tweaking, increase of cache(which you do delete often), bugs and glitches showing Sims 4 is not optimized as it should have been. Being Sims 4 does not scale to any specs that is present that does not contribute much unless it is something really old.
This is on the island in Windenburg and I've had the issue in San Myshuno, as well. I haven't tested the other world's, but I highly suspect it's in all world's.
It was dark and a bit hard to see, but if you look in the middle of the picture, you can see where it is doing the same thing. (If you right click and open image in new tab, you can get a better view of it).
And yes, San Myshuno is the worst. It's not just graphics there, it's all the stuff going on at street level that you're not always even paying attention to using up resources. Uptown is the absolute worst, which I don't understand because there are no festivals there. I have tried tweaking my graphics settings and it does get worse on high, so I play on medium. But I still get a lot of dramatic pauses when I am turning the camera. I assumed it might get better if I got a new graphics card but it sounds like maybe that wouldn't help as much as I thought.
Do you guys play have all expansions and play with everything on ultra?
Also I'm not sure if its lag, its sluggish, low fps when moving around San Myshuno or living in apartments or penthouse, especially bigger ones, like, compared to other worlds it's way less smoother and not comfortable for the eye to play when everytime you move around it's so sluggish..
Maybe even though Sims 4 does not scale up or down to your specs, it is still important to make sure the GPU, CPU and memory works well together. Example; an GTX 460 will have an hard time keeping up with an i7 7800K etc which may increase lag on top of the lag that may be contributed to it not being optimized.
An excellent point. If one of your components is a weak link, that's probably where your problems are gonna spawn from -- in my case, that would be my prehistoric CPU struggling to handle my modern 16GB of RAM and GTX 950FTW video card. That's also why I micromanage the daylights out of my Windows to minimize the stress my poor dino CPU has to deal with, apart from my games themselves anyway.
Things to consider:
TS4-specific troubleshooting things-to -check:
- Are you using the default TS4 camera or the TS3 camera to play? I use the TS3 camera & don't use edge scrolling (I dislike the slow drifting).
- When you delete the cache folders, do you delete the localthumbcache.package too? (You should!)
- If your internet connection is shared or isn't the greatest, you can disable TS4's internet access in the main menu to avoid lag from the Gallery silently updating.
- An update might have hiccuped while installing - "Repair Game" (in Origin) is a dogsend when things stay wonky (just backup your saves & mods first).
- Also, do you have Seasons installed? I've heard San Myshuno weather can be awful but have only seen clear days there so far; I've had rain in Whiskerman's Wharf stutter before a lightning flash, but I've mostly been playing Windenburg & haven't had noticeable lag or sluggishness in the neighborhoods there. If it's only certain weather making stuff slow you can possibly turn that weather event off in the main menu.
PC Things I've learned the hard way to check for:May not be able to stop the game's slowness altogether but maybe it can at least be partially mitigated...
Graphics cards are only one element of a computer. You have to consider your CPU speed and the amount of RAM too.
Yep. Question... Do you use mods?
Yes, they do but just a few.