Whenever I make transgender Sims I just make them the gender they identify as, I find it weird when people use the gender patch to make transgender sims because in reality a trans person wants to appear as the gender they are, not the gender they were born into. It's almost a little offensive when I see it honestly, I feel offended on my friends behalf. I can just imagine they transitioned and stuff and play like that. If they ever added in surgery, I'd probably consider making some more transgender sims, but they probably won't add that because it's a bit too real for the sims 4 and might cause offense.
Whenever I make transgender Sims I just make them the gender they identify as
Isn't this how everyone does it? And then just changes whether they get pregnant or not? It *is* offensive to say you've got a trans woman and give them a male...
> @Sjofn said: > I occasionally pick a townie out and make them trans, but I haven't played one as a main sim, as I don't think I'd handle that sort of story well (as it is WAY outside my experience), and I mostly play for an audience these days. I just really don't want to screw up!
> @Sjofn said: > Honestly, I'm not very worried about complaints (my audience is like ... twenty people tops, and I know them all :P), I just don't want to inadvertently hurt feelings and such.
I can definitely understand being wary about telling a story about transition when you're not transgender yourself. What about adding one of your trans townies to the household through marriage or something? That wouldn't necessarily involve doing anything differently.
I can definitely understand being wary about telling a story about transition when you're not transgender yourself. What about adding one of your trans townies to the household through marriage or something? That wouldn't necessarily involve doing anything differently.
If one of them ever winds up falling for one, I would! But I don't know if I'd actually spell out they were trans, because that feels weird to me. But maybe I should spell it out? I don't know!
I assume playing a Sim guy who can become pregnant is transgenderish? That I have, because my main couple is same-gender and bringing in a woman for reproduction would not suit me. But I don't find that I have a need to roleplay a transgendered Sim as such. However, I have had one that I played and thought of as a hermaphrodite.
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I'm guessing you mean Sims that I refer to transgender since I'm certain there's no way to have an actual transgender in the game, and my answer is no, and I have no plans to ever have any.
I made my first Trans Sim long ago, even before the patch. I was making a variety of households to fill my maps and I would begin by randomizing in CAS until a Sim caught my attention. So I happened to be working on a sort of boarding house that had a variety of young women living together as roomies, and my randomization stopped at a Sim who had some slightly masculine features, and reminded me of someone I knew in real life. I thought it would be great to have this Sim be a Trans woman in the household and she added more depth and completion to the stories there.
As it turned out, as soon as I played that household, (which had seven Sim women in it, including the Trans Sim), two of them were watching a romantic movie together and immediately started having obvious chemistry and flirtations and basically let me know that this was going to be a very LGBT friendly house. I really enjoyed playing that household. They are still in my main save, but I think it's coming to a time where the lesbian couple want their own place and some of the others have their own life things going on (one of them had an unexpected child, a son, who is the only male in the house and the mother, determined to give him a good life, became a successful doctor), so they will all be separately moving on to the next phase of their lives. I keep putting it off because I love the dynamic and diversity of that household.
I actually have male sims in my game, with the ability to become pregnant and at some point in their lives, one of them will become pregnant and carry their partners baby. But its not technically trans, because in my mind the sims exist in a different universe, of course and in that universe males become pregnant.
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Kind of....one of my themed worlds is a matriarchy where women wear the trousers and have the high powered jobs and men wear the dresses and are the homemakers. I keep the masculine and feminine frames as standard but change the clothing preferences. The fun is to be had when you see a svelte young person in a dress but with the deepest of voices.
As someone who's sort of trans myself? Heck yea, of course I do. Of course I do.
Get ready, I know stuff, so this might get a little deep.
First up is Dorthe, she's a trans woman who has gone on estrogen for a while. As estrogen won't get rid of the adam's apple, her voice is kind of deep, but she's been training it to be higher-pitched. She lives with her vampire girlfriend.
Then there's this in-game-born, Kråke, or Crow as it would be in English. He's a young trans boy, who still hasn't been able to go on testosterone yet, so his frame is still feminine, and his voice is still high-pitched, much to his absolute annoyance and dysphoria. But oh, that will definitely change as he grows up. He also has an identical twin sister, who's cis. (cis simply means non-trans, it's what most people are!)
His mother is nonbinary herself, goes by she/her and they/them pronouns, and they're very supportive of her son. Yeah, using two sets of pronouns on the same person may be confusing, but guess what, it's a thing. It simply means they're comfortable with either. You're allowed to pick.
She also personally doesn't consider herself trans, even though the nb identity does fall under the whole trans umbrella.
Morten is an enby too, and does consider themself trans.
Yeah, that's the dork in my icon. He/they pronouns for this guy. He's a very good kid.
I like to imagine that any trans people who turn into vampires would also fully transition exactly as much as they desire upon turning -- after all, what's the point of living forever if it's not in a body you're comfortable with?
So Mort here got more androgynous, as they wished. Their sense of style is also somewhat unique, as you can probably tell. (You have no idea how many outfits I've made for him at this point.... he loves comfy clothing. and childish patterns. and florals. and hats. and flower hats. yes)
Speaking of trans vampires, there's this viking too. Einarr Auðvinsson. He's literally a thousand years old; gender norms have changed quite a bit since then. He's a man either way.
As I mentioned before, he physically transitioned just as much as he personally needed to upon turning. So for his time period, he got really lucky.
He personally doesn't mind appearing somewhat androgynous according to today's standards; however, he's a mindreader, he notices how other people perceive him, and he's sick to death of people assuming he's the wrong gender just because of the hair. So he chops it off whenever he needs to go anywhere public. Vampire hair grows back very fast, so he doesn't exactly feel much commitment when he does it. He does prefer it long. And maybe with braids. Yeah.
Anyway.
Trans people have existed through the entirety of human history.
Okay, last but not least, I guess... there's this household with self-sims too. This gets a little silly. It's kind of a self-exploration, so it's fine. I'm nb too.
There's me with a masculine frame, me with a feminine frame (closest to me in real life right now?), and me again, except as an alien this time. They all go by they/them pronouns exclusively. (Yes, "they" can be a singular pronoun. It has been used like that for centuries.)
I set all their clothing preferences to masculine, since I know at least that much about myself. As for my body, I'd mostly just prefer to not be gendered at all, thanks. But, knowing people in general, it seems kind of unrealistic. Not to mention I'm definitely deep in the closet about all of this. Coming out to a conservative family is absolutely terrifying, so I'd much rather not.
haha yeah they're a vampire too, excuse me
and the alien, they got a masculine voice in the alien form. yeah.
okay that's it i guess
I do understand that people who aren't as read up on it are a bit more careful about creating trans sims. It's very easy to get wrong, so it's easier to just avoid it overall.
Just know that the inclusion of this feature has been very important to people like me, so I just wanna thank the sims team for doing it. Not to mention that I just love being able to put any items on anyone I wish, without restrictions. Except for the tops. The tops don't look as good.
i sure do! i'm trans IRL (nonbinary, personally) and almost all of my OCs and such are trans, it's just... what i'm used to. the same way most cisgender heterosexual people make characters that are like them, i make characters that are like me!
i tend to prefer to make my trans sims unassuming other than how they pee (or if they can get pregnant, but yknow). though i do take a lot of care on face shapes and general body shape. that's just what i prefer - i would personally like to appear however i identify, and noone would be able to tell unless i told 'em. (though i do use cc eyelashes on every sim i ever make.......)
so for trans male/masculine characters : male > masc/fem frame (depending, i usually use masc but tweak it a lot) > pee sitting down > can get pregnant and for trans female/feminine characters: female > usually use fem frame > pee standing up > can get others pregnant
i play a lot of LGBT couples, one i'm playing on at the moment are a cisgender guy and his trans guy husband. they have three kids, and i'm considering a fourth. it's a very good way for me to achieve biological families between characters who identify as the same gender! even back in previous games/before the gender patch, i would have characters who were "female" but i edited them enough they looked like male sims. but the gender patch definitely made it easier and more accurate, and made TS4 much more enjoyable for me, and for my trans friends! i am glad that is a feature that you can easily ignore though, so that there is no ill will between LGBT and non-LGBT simmers. just having the tools there if you want to use them is kind of what The Sims is about, imo!
I love the options that the gender patch gave to players from all backgrounds and beliefs. Its one time, for sure, that I applauded the Sims team for daring to do something viewed by some as controversial. I feel like, giving people a chance to express their own unique style, beliefs, feelings, thoughts and dreams without fear is what will someday make this world a better place for everyone.
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I'm a rotational player so I have many families I play. I have gay, trans, hetero, bi, I have a morman dude with three women(can be done with player trait), I have Asian, African, Lebanese, native american, ghetto thugs, italian mafia, motorcycle gang, white trash, a serial killer, a Hindu Jewish couple, an adult teen couple If it happens in the world then it's in my game.
I have a couple of them, one MTF and one FTM that I downloaded from the Gallery, but I never made one myself because I haven't come up with that type of story for any of my own Sims yet.
@EnkiSchmidt thanks for giving me this idea! I'll have to give Darling a makeover
I certainly do. Sometimes I'll drop them into lots to live as background sims just like any other. But for the sims I play, I roll a d10 for every sim born to one of my families. If I roll a 6 then the sim is LGBT. And so then I roll a d4 to determine attraction or type -- 1 is same gender attraction, 2 is attraction to both genders, 3 is asexual and 4 is trans. If it comes up 4 then I proceed to roll a d4 again to determine attraction for the trans sim.
This approach combines my desire for a diverse cast of characters with my obsessive love of rolling dice to produce RPG-esque random outcomes.
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Isn't this how everyone does it? And then just changes whether they get pregnant or not? It *is* offensive to say you've got a trans woman and give them a male...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmFyY60q4J0PJNKCePjVG8g
> I occasionally pick a townie out and make them trans, but I haven't played one as a main sim, as I don't think I'd handle that sort of story well (as it is WAY outside my experience), and I mostly play for an audience these days. I just really don't want to screw up!
> @Sjofn said:
> Honestly, I'm not very worried about complaints (my audience is like ... twenty people tops, and I know them all :P), I just don't want to inadvertently hurt feelings and such.
I can definitely understand being wary about telling a story about transition when you're not transgender yourself. What about adding one of your trans townies to the household through marriage or something? That wouldn't necessarily involve doing anything differently.
If one of them ever winds up falling for one, I would! But I don't know if I'd actually spell out they were trans, because that feels weird to me. But maybe I should spell it out? I don't know!
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I assume playing a Sim guy who can become pregnant is transgenderish? That I have, because my main couple is same-gender and bringing in a woman for reproduction would not suit me. But I don't find that I have a need to roleplay a transgendered Sim as such. However, I have had one that I played and thought of as a hermaphrodite.
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As it turned out, as soon as I played that household, (which had seven Sim women in it, including the Trans Sim), two of them were watching a romantic movie together and immediately started having obvious chemistry and flirtations and basically let me know that this was going to be a very LGBT friendly house. I really enjoyed playing that household. They are still in my main save, but I think it's coming to a time where the lesbian couple want their own place and some of the others have their own life things going on (one of them had an unexpected child, a son, who is the only male in the house and the mother, determined to give him a good life, became a successful doctor), so they will all be separately moving on to the next phase of their lives. I keep putting it off because I love the dynamic and diversity of that household.
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Get ready, I know stuff, so this might get a little deep.
First up is Dorthe, she's a trans woman who has gone on estrogen for a while. As estrogen won't get rid of the adam's apple, her voice is kind of deep, but she's been training it to be higher-pitched. She lives with her vampire girlfriend.
Then there's this in-game-born, Kråke, or Crow as it would be in English. He's a young trans boy, who still hasn't been able to go on testosterone yet, so his frame is still feminine, and his voice is still high-pitched, much to his absolute annoyance and dysphoria. But oh, that will definitely change as he grows up. He also has an identical twin sister, who's cis. (cis simply means non-trans, it's what most people are!)
His mother is nonbinary herself, goes by she/her and they/them pronouns, and they're very supportive of her son. Yeah, using two sets of pronouns on the same person may be confusing, but guess what, it's a thing. It simply means they're comfortable with either. You're allowed to pick.
She also personally doesn't consider herself trans, even though the nb identity does fall under the whole trans umbrella.
Morten is an enby too, and does consider themself trans.
Yeah, that's the dork in my icon. He/they pronouns for this guy. He's a very good kid.
I like to imagine that any trans people who turn into vampires would also fully transition exactly as much as they desire upon turning -- after all, what's the point of living forever if it's not in a body you're comfortable with?
So Mort here got more androgynous, as they wished. Their sense of style is also somewhat unique, as you can probably tell. (You have no idea how many outfits I've made for him at this point.... he loves comfy clothing. and childish patterns. and florals. and hats. and flower hats. yes)
Speaking of trans vampires, there's this viking too. Einarr Auðvinsson. He's literally a thousand years old; gender norms have changed quite a bit since then. He's a man either way.
As I mentioned before, he physically transitioned just as much as he personally needed to upon turning. So for his time period, he got really lucky.
He personally doesn't mind appearing somewhat androgynous according to today's standards; however, he's a mindreader, he notices how other people perceive him, and he's sick to death of people assuming he's the wrong gender just because of the hair. So he chops it off whenever he needs to go anywhere public. Vampire hair grows back very fast, so he doesn't exactly feel much commitment when he does it. He does prefer it long. And maybe with braids. Yeah.
Anyway.
Trans people have existed through the entirety of human history.
Okay, last but not least, I guess... there's this household with self-sims too. This gets a little silly. It's kind of a self-exploration, so it's fine. I'm nb too.
There's me with a masculine frame, me with a feminine frame (closest to me in real life right now?), and me again, except as an alien this time. They all go by they/them pronouns exclusively. (Yes, "they" can be a singular pronoun. It has been used like that for centuries.)
I set all their clothing preferences to masculine, since I know at least that much about myself. As for my body, I'd mostly just prefer to not be gendered at all, thanks. But, knowing people in general, it seems kind of unrealistic. Not to mention I'm definitely deep in the closet about all of this. Coming out to a conservative family is absolutely terrifying, so I'd much rather not.
haha yeah they're a vampire too, excuse me
and the alien, they got a masculine voice in the alien form. yeah.
okay that's it i guess
I do understand that people who aren't as read up on it are a bit more careful about creating trans sims. It's very easy to get wrong, so it's easier to just avoid it overall.
Just know that the inclusion of this feature has been very important to people like me, so I just wanna thank the sims team for doing it. Not to mention that I just love being able to put any items on anyone I wish, without restrictions. Except for the tops. The tops don't look as good.
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i'm trans IRL (nonbinary, personally) and almost all of my OCs and such are trans, it's just... what i'm used to. the same way most cisgender heterosexual people make characters that are like them, i make characters that are like me!
i tend to prefer to make my trans sims unassuming other than how they pee (or if they can get pregnant, but yknow). though i do take a lot of care on face shapes and general body shape. that's just what i prefer - i would personally like to appear however i identify, and noone would be able to tell unless i told 'em. (though i do use cc eyelashes on every sim i ever make.......)
so for trans male/masculine characters : male > masc/fem frame (depending, i usually use masc but tweak it a lot) > pee sitting down > can get pregnant
and for trans female/feminine characters: female > usually use fem frame > pee standing up > can get others pregnant
i play a lot of LGBT couples, one i'm playing on at the moment are a cisgender guy and his trans guy husband. they have three kids, and i'm considering a fourth. it's a very good way for me to achieve biological families between characters who identify as the same gender! even back in previous games/before the gender patch, i would have characters who were "female" but i edited them enough they looked like male sims. but the gender patch definitely made it easier and more accurate, and made TS4 much more enjoyable for me, and for my trans friends!
i am glad that is a feature that you can easily ignore though, so that there is no ill will between LGBT and non-LGBT simmers. just having the tools there if you want to use them is kind of what The Sims is about, imo!
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@EnkiSchmidt thanks for giving me this idea! I'll have to give Darling a makeover
This approach combines my desire for a diverse cast of characters with my obsessive love of rolling dice to produce RPG-esque random outcomes.