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I didn’t invent this challenge, but I noticed that nobody has written up official rules for it. I thought that was a shame as it’s a really fun challenge, so I took it upon myself to do some rules in the hope that will inspire more people to try this. I’ve playtested the hard version myself. It’s a bit like a prettacy in that you try to breed pretty sims. But, you specifically start with a really ugly sim and there’s no compulsion to play it as a legacy challenge and to follow legacy challenge rules (though you can, if you wish). I’ve also formulated different levels of difficulty.

Compulsory rules for all versions:

- Start with a founder who is as ugly as possible. I mean REALLY ugly (if you don’t make them ugly enough, the challenge will be completed in only a few generations). For example, my breed out the ugly founder:

Founder, Ramona Belle:
- No editing of offspring’s features in CAS

- No editing of spouses’ features in CAS

- (Obviously) no editing of founder’s features in CAS

- Your founder (and thereafter your heirs) MUST marry either premades, townies or descendants of premades and townies. You cannot make them a partner or download one from the gallery.

- Your founder can marry or remain single and they can have all their children either with the same partner or with multiple partners.

- No money cheats allowed.

- Your founder can start with the default 20,000 simoleons (unless you decide to also follow legacy challenge rules) and can get any job.

- You cannot age up children before their birthday.

- Normal lifespan and aging on for played household.

- No fertility reward trait or lot trait and you may not use mods to increase the likelihood of a multiple birth. I think there’s a fertility massage as well - if there is, you can’t use that either!

- Adopted children cannot be heir. The heir of the next generation must be the biological child of the heir of the previous generation.

- If your founder or current heir dies with no children, the challenge ends and you have to start over.

- If an heir dies while still a child or teenager and they have no siblings, the previous heir (i.e. their parent) has to have another child, or the challenge ends. If they do have siblings, one of them must become heir. In easy/medium versions, you can choose which, but in the hard version it must be the oldest.

- If your founder marries, they must not change their surname and their spouse must take your founder’s surname. Any children born must have the founder’s surname. This is to carry on throughout the challenge.

- Your founder may be an alien or vampire and may have children with an alien or vampire.

- Children from alien abductions are eligible to be heir. If your founder/heir’s firstborn is a child from an alien abduction and you are playing the hard version of this challenge, then that child must be heir (this, of course, excludes cases where the alien child is born to your heir’s SPOUSE).

- The Challenge is completed once you get a normal looking heir.

Easy Version additional rules:
- Aging off for unplayed households (you can have your family marry premades as the challenge progresses)

- Have as many children as possible and choose the most attractive one as heir (warning: you will finish the challenge quickly this way).

Medium Version additional rules:
- You may switch aging off for unplayed households (you can have your family marry premades as the challenge progresses). But, for more of a challenge, switch aging on for unplayed households.

- Have up to three children and choose the most attractive one as heir

Hard Version additional rules:
- Aging on for unplayed households

- One child per generation. If you want, you can have more than one child, but the firstborn must always be heir. Likewise, if twins or triplets are born, the firstborn must be heir. This rule is intended to prevent you from choosing the most attractive child as heir.

Optional rules for all versions:
- No influencing the gender of babies while a sim is pregnant.

- You can’t check how many/what gender babies a sim is going to have while pregnant.

- When a baby is born, click on the name randomizes button once. Whatever name it chooses, the baby gets that name. Don’t like it? Tough luck!

- Choose toddler traits with this random generator:

- Choose the traits and aspirations of children/teens/young adults with this random generator:

- You can’t peek at what a child is going to look like when they are older in CAS.

- If you want, you can try to complete your sims’ aspirations and get to the tops of their careers.

- You may also follow Pinstar’s Legacy Challenge rules on top of the core breed out the ugly rules, if you so wish.

- You May use the MCCC mod to enable premades and townies to get married and have children autonomously. This is especially useful for the hard version where aging must be on for unplayed households.

Here is the thread for my attempt at the Breed Out The Ugly Challenge, for inspiration:
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  • MaggieMarleyMaggieMarley Posts: 3,067 Member
    edited November 2018
    @EuphorialQueen thank you :) the challenge need not go on for ten generations. Playing according to legacy rules in addition is entirely optional. If someone decides to also abide by legacy rules, then they would have to play for 10 generations. But, if they choose not to, then the challenge would go on for however many generations it took to get a normal looking heir - this may be less than 10 generations, or more than 10 generations.
  • Karababy52Karababy52 Posts: 2,528 Member
    Thank you for posting these official rules. We've talked a bit about my try at this challenge before and how I wasn't sure what to do. Because of our convo and this post, I've decided it will be a BOTU instead of a Prettacy.

    I'm sort've doing a combination of easy and hard. While I do have aging off for unplayed households, the founder and heirs will only have one child (hopefully) until the challenge is successful. Haven't gotten very far yet, but I'm having fun with it. My founder Winnie Willoughby gave birth to the next heir, Willie, not long ago. His Daddy is Salim Benali. Here he is now as a toddler:

    I think he's absolutely adorable, now. Sadly, I don't think he inherited much, if any, genetics from his Daddy. Oh well, just means I get to play the family longer. :)

    Just for reference for those who haven't seen it yet, here's a pic I previously posted of my founder.

    I changed her aspiration to Angling Ace with her Rags to Riches beginning, which she's completed, but she now has Super Parent. :)

    Happy Simming! <3
  • MaggieMarleyMaggieMarley Posts: 3,067 Member
    @Karababy52 thank you for sharing what’s happening in your BOTU! Willie is very cute (now) but aren’t all toddlers? I wonder if he will get his mother’s nose... I hope you will share how your challenge progresses :)

    Yeah switching on aging for unplayed households definitely does add another level of difficulty, so it’s totally optional! It’s getting more and more difficulty to find good looking spouses for my heirs as my townies are doing their best to breed in the ugly to the general population! Thankfully there do still seem to be some promising looking kids around of my fifth generation heir’s age. And, I still have Caleb and Lilith in my game, so they could marry into the family at some point too.
  • Karababy52Karababy52 Posts: 2,528 Member
    You're welcome, I enjoy sharing what's going on in my game. :) You can't tell very well from the pic I posted, but he definitely has his Mother's nose and her chin too. o.O I think all he got from Salim was perhaps his eyes? Hard to tell though since all toddlers have big eyes. We'll see...

    Ug, yeah, I rarely get any good-looking townies. When I do, I pounce on them, give them a style make-over (no plastic surgery) and save them to my favorites. I've heard that the Vatore siblings are a toss-up whether or not they breed well. Some say their offspring are gorgeous, some say they're always hideous. I guess you'll just have to take your chances if they're all that's left though. Personally I think they'd have great genetics since they're both so good-looking. But you just never know. Good luck! <3
  • MaggieMarleyMaggieMarley Posts: 3,067 Member
    edited November 2018
    @Karababy52 ah now that you mention it, I can see that his nose is looking a bit pointy already, even from that picture. I think the nose is hilarious though, so I’m glad he inherited it! My founder’s nose was gone by the third generation and I kinda miss it now.

    I’ve kept an eye on the Vatores and so far in this save game they have both had nothing but ugly (often chinless) children. But, in past games I had a cute kid from Caleb and a good looking kid from Lilith. So, maybe the ugliness has been down to their choice of partner...

    Thankfully, there is a child the same age as my gen 5 heir who is going to grow up (I think) really pretty. So, that’s next generation’s spouse sorted. This is what she will look like as a YA:
  • Sounds very interesting, I hope to be able to start the challenge!
  • I have a question though, would I be able to just edit their mouths to smiles, because I really like doing tha, but if I can't thats okay. Just wondering.
  • MaggieMarleyMaggieMarley Posts: 3,067 Member
    I have a question though, would I be able to just edit their mouths to smiles, because I really like doing tha, but if I can't thats okay. Just wondering.
    @Riverspirit123456789 Thanks for taking an interest in this challenge! I guess technically it would be against the rules. The intention of the no editing in CAS rule is to prevent you from “fixing” any of their less than attractive features. But, if you’re not using it to make them look better then I guess that would still be in the spirit of the challenge :)
  • Okay, thanks you very much for answering my question!
  • QueenarellaQueenarella Posts: 847 Member
    edited August 20
    I love this challenge! I recently started my own and began posting about it. I hope I won't delete it because it's hard for me to play with ugly sims :sweat_smile:


    That's my founder:
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