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Beware of the Nov patch if you have script mods....ugh
ClaimingTheFifth
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http://simscommunity.info/2018/10/03/modders-beware-the-sims-4-is-getting-a-python-upgrade/
Here we go again....
Here we go again.... That light at the end of the tunnel? It's a train.
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The five-second rule does not apply when you have a two-second dog.
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The five-second rule does not apply when you have a two-second dog.
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This includes ALL custom careers, ALL custom traits, and MCCC. The scope is more extensive in what will be broken than ANY single past patch. I think if they don't leave open a door to the modders, there will be a mass player exodus, which means sales will drop substantially. Yes, custom content that doesn't involve script mods will likely keep working, BUT there is no guarantee: past patches have broken custom content before. And Sims4Studio, a program that I use for batch fixes to update custom content I have already downloaded, will have to be updated or discontinued entirely. Some example of Sims 4 Studio batch fixes: update bookcases for Toddlers (adds the toddler books to custom content bookcases and adds the option to "read story to..." to cc bookcases), general CAS update for Seasons, Lighting fix (yes, custom content lights were broken in one past patch). Other batch fixes I have used: Disable CAS cc for random, Enable or Disable CAS cc for vampires, Enable or disable CAS cc for aliens.
Disabling CAS cc is useful in say, preventing townies from showing up to restaurants, pools, or other community lots with wings (which are typically worn as rings or hats), horror face paint, or unusual skin colors, along with the usual clashing/fashion crime townie wear.
Right now, one modder has created a "make your own career" website, but the whole thing is dependent on a career commons .ts4script file. (The site can be found here: simneia.fr/home.html) Unless Maxis creates a similar tool, many custom careers will be gone...leaving all Sim progress in custom careers in the dust. The tool of course, is currently only available for creating rabbithole careers, and cannot be used to introduce new game features as part of a career. As a non-modder, the site is simple enough even I could use it, if I had enough ideas for each job level to put into one career, and a new career idea that hadn't already been done before. (I remember someone did this in TS1 as well...and I created an Elder/Retirement career back then with that tool (since Sims 1 had no elders in it), but don't remember all the jobs in that career I made now.)
@SimGuruModSquad made this post regarding CC:
Hi all,
CC will not be affected. Only mods that contain files with the .ts4script extension are affected. CC typically only contain .package files.
I am going to close this thread as it has served its purpose. We have a month to get this sorted out, so recommend that everyone hold tight and let the technical folks work through it. If you are interested in the nitty gritty then check out the the Deaderpool discord, where some promising discussions are happening.
I will post updates to this thread as things develop, along with updates about timing of the patch. So keep an eye out here for further announcements.
Thanks,
SGMS
Link to the original post:
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/16762026/#Comment_16762026
Sims 4 Studio should NOT be affected. Neia has yet to weigh in as to whether she will be updating her career tool but, anyone interested can watch her thread for her response: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/921946/create-a-career-looking-for-beta-testers#latest
is at least three years more worth of TS4 technically right around the corner? why should they not update the coding for this game simply because they might be making TS5? there's also basically a ton of things left they could "milk" out of TS4. personally, TS4 to me is what TS2/TS3 is to other players; a game I'm going to play even when they stop releasing stuff for it. I'd rather the game be as updated, optimized, etc. as possible to help maintain its longevity.
Anything that changes the way any build-buy mode objects work, or any new categories of CAS content added to the game, will affect custom content. We DONT yet know what all will be in the next patch, other than the python upgrade, and if they meet the deadlines, terrain tool and the sketch tablet and new fashion career. Also, there is also the matter of "hacked objects" which are a hybrid of custom content and script mod. Sims 4 Studio WILL be affected, because it relies on a certain amount of knowledge of the way the internal code of the game works to do its batch fixes. Every patch to date has required an update to Sims 4 studio, so I believe it is a safe bet that this patch will be no exception. For one thing, Sims 4 studio also integrated the functionality of a certain script mod that permits the creation and use of custom umbrellas recently. Besides, THIS thread is for NON modders to discuss the upcoming patch. Most likely, CAS (create a sim) custom content will not be affected, but considering custom umbrellas are a form of CAS content....I"m not going to say NO CAS custom content will be affected.
Custom foods themselves do not have .ts4script files, but edible custom foods (as opposed to purely decorative foods) RELY on .ts4script files to show up in game on the refrigerator and restaurant menus. So that is another form of custom content that will be affected. And the last patch broke most of Leniad's custom food and harvestable mods: the next one is likely to break icemunmun's custom food and harvestable mods.
Truly, it is a shame Maxis doesn't/can't hire more people in the mod community as contractors to integrate their mods into an official part of the game.
If I understood you correctly, you implied that Sims 4 Studio may be discontinued entirely because of the November update and that is an unfair assessment. The SimsGurus have given modders and mods users a heads up so that we can have a game plan and I have faith that those modders who wish to continue forward will. We just have to have a little patience and watch for @luthienrising's thread.
I hear you , buy one I can't give up is UI Cheats Extension, I won't play without it .
The modders for those ones, usually update within a day or so.
I'm pretty sure that one will be updated quickly - it normally is.
I didn't intend that meaning: I just meant there will need to be another version of Sims4Studio with MAJOR changes, including changes to its tutorials.
Usually within hours
"For the Python update, it won't have that much impact on the tool, Python is only used for the PTO interaction on the phone and most of the career content don't use Python at all. I'll update the help page on the site with the info on how to make .ts4script with the new Python. The tutorial on MTS is not by me, it's by Simmiller
Most of the modding community believe this is a good thing, even though updating their mods isn't easy. I just turned my updates off so that I can play my game until a few core mods are updated that will completely ruin my game if I play without them.
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