This thread is not exactly a comparison of TS4 to the other games but where TS4 players say it's only been four years, TS2 had ended by this point and one last SP released in Nov. TS3 news was everywhere since it was supposed to, IIRC, be released in Feb. the following year. (But delayed).
By this time TS2 had several main worlds, unlimited subhoods, vacant templates(not the same as an empty template without townies) to build your own custom hoods, and unlimited townie populations. (As long as your pc could handle it). And Aliens, Abductions and Male Pregnancy.
University came with a new world, Sims could travel back and forth to any world (YAs) anytime.
New Careers and New Aspirations, new wants and wishes. Instruments to perform in bands. Part time jobs. A new life state, new aspiration rewards in every EP.
Open For Business came with crafting tables that not only your Sims could build things and use them (Not decor) and they actually worked, but so could their employees. Not just standing around or sitting around getting paid for nothing. OFB brought Unlimited Subhoods to add theirs or yours. New Aspirations, wants/wishes. Roam freely among as many subhoods as you like.
Nightlife came with vampires, restaurants, automobiles and limos< (base for sneak out and honeymoon). A new world, and Unlimited Downtown custom worlds, you fill up yourself. New Careers, Aspirations, wants and wishes. Chemistry system. Turns offs and ons.
New objects such as Karaoke and hot tubs. Live downtown or in your own subhoods, travel freely.
Pets, pet trainers and pet jobs. Small animals. Adopt a stray or give away a pet to be adopted next. Pets stores. Run a pet store. New life state.
Seasons, a new world. Gardening, actual working green house roofs, and walls, fruit trees, new perks for juicing. A new life state.
Bon Voyage, Three new worlds, and unlimited build/add your own vacation worlds. Swimming in oceans, (but we could swim in our own lakes since base game by using terrian tools). Tanning, sunburns, spas, new aspirations, wants, fears, wishes, new rewards, new careers.
FreeTime, New world, New Careers, New Aspirations, New wants, and fears, New hobbies, new hidden lots for hobby cliques. New Aspirations (2nd system with more perks and points.)
Apartment Life, Apartments, build your own. Mix and match condos with duplexes whatever, build it your way. New World. etc. etc.
This doesn't reflect all the interactions added, objects or clothes, townies, NPCs, life states, new clocks that actually kept time with the game clock, or all the gameplay.
What some consider has been a short time for TS4, I consider has been long enough, and if four years is a short time then look at TS2 and what all it had in just four short years. TS4 can't even be compared since it's still so tiny a game.
My two cents, let's end it now, and get on with TS5 or whatever it is Maxis is working on.
ETA: And we had bodyshop and Home Crafter (thanks Maxis!) from day one. Does anyone think TS4 will ever catch up? I don't.
No lounging chairs. When is the last time we saw four or five new Aspirations and new rewards in an EP? (TS2 or TS3). Everyone says TS4 reminds them of TS2 and not TS3, yes, TS3 is an even bigger game, but considering what TS4 still doesn't have after four loooong years, TS2 looks like a monster of a game (and I didn't even scratch the surface) in it's four short years.
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In the meantime, there are still content ideas for Sims 4 out there that can be explored. Magic, University (or improved education at all levels), Rural Living (maybe combine with "off the grid" features), Celebrity (as long as every Sim doesn't turn into a celebrity like Sims 3), more vacation destinations (build/run our own resorts?) -- the list goes on.
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Of course, we all wanted more stuff for these games by the time they ended. But as I said earlier TS2 already had al that stuff by the time four years was up. And our vacation pack came with three vacation destinations and build your own, unlimited add on of many different vacation worlds. (And buy as many vacation homes in all of them, lol).
Do I ask for too much? Of course not, my hard earned dollars and yours has help to develop this game with our collective funding, we should have a voice and if there is even a slight chance that we will be heard it is worth the contribution, and I remember when EA and Maxis did listen when suggestions were made when the Sims 1 was out.
So EA here is the optimistic suggestion that the last The Sims Version be the very best of them all, what ever version that may be, in the meantime (because you stepped up with the toddlers) I plan to enjoy the journey and hope for the destination that I hope for.
And hey, look at it this way, we all are getting older and we have the potential of having the most fun of any generation so far in our elder years when our mobility is limited by living vicariously through our beloved sims. Zoom Zoom
We know we have at least 3 more years to go. I have no urge to wish and hope it away or even hurry it up. I hope it lasts longer actually.
I think it will end when we get the major themes from the past and a number of news ones to boot. For those of us that want this there and enjoy the Sims 4 there is no way we want it to just be over already.
The Sims has gone in another direction and is on another schedule.. it's the way it is. I'm pretty sure the next one will not follow the old standard either. I hope the next game is wonderful when it releases. I might be able to wait to buy it if I'm still busy playing this one but I hope it's a good game when it does eventually come.
I want stuff like improved and freed babies, the improved toddlers again, proper full stages of teens/YA/elders, better Sims AI, and rotational play support all in the base game of Sims 5.
For now, I’d rather they keep adding content to Sims 4 and work on a much more improved Sims 5 in the meantime. I don’t want the company to start getting in a habit of abandoning games.
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In the past before a new game is released, they stop producing for the old one about a year ahead of time. Or several months so all the developers who are going to transfer over to the new game can stop working on the current and do what they are going to for the new game.
And you do know, they have said four times now, they will keep working on the current game at the time, as long as it makes sense or interest, but that isn't actually true, because for the past three, there were still many, many, many, request to add more stuff people wanted. They have to leave it at some point. Or it would be like FIFA and just keep going without a new engine or newer techno to do things they never could do before.
From my point of view, we have had 4 versions of the same game, each to their own slightly different but all in all the whole idea is the same. The only main difference between each one is it's appearance. Each time around we have gotten relatively the same packs, just a different interpretation. The main packs people are asking for already have 2-3 previous interpretations some even 4.
I want to see new packs being made that we haven't had before and i'm worried that some of those will never happen because so many want the same packs over and over and then to move onto a new base game.
I love how sims 4 looks, I love CAS, build mode is also really good (would be even better with a few more updates) It runs really smoothly (at least for me) For what it is right now, it's a really good game. It isn't sims 1, sims 2 or sims 3. If you want it to be like that you can play those games instead, they are all great games.
I know that there are things wrong with sims 4, there's bits and pieces in all of the games that some may not like. Everything has it's flaws but you can't disregard its good parts. Things in Sims 4 can be improved if we give them chance.
I know they have to leave it at some point. Of course they will have to!
But I finally got my toddlers, and I want more content for Sims 4 before transitioning to a new base game and starting over again.
I’m not going to buy Sims 5 right away (not until I see the improvements and important content), so I’m good for waiting for it.
*shrugs* I’ll wait to see how it all goes.
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Since I'm the only one that said overall better in the thread please refer to the "I think" part of that statement. It's an opinion. Just as yours is.
and if they stop now. we only have what we have now. if they start new we have less. because base games do. i love 4 actually its the first time i thought gentics looked realistic. also got in to legacies because of 4. so i want them to keep working on 4.
I only want one more TS4 pack (I don't care if it's an EP or GP) and that's University. Anything that comes after that is just bonus content to me. I also need to get Outdoor Retreat and Seasons, then my collection will be complete. I really don't care about JA and I will never buy Vampires. I may get the pet related packs in the future but I have never played with animals in any of the games.
Those are just my opinions so I will be waiting to find out what they are going to do on Oct 2.
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(It’s fine to describe the differences such as amount of content and other facts, but no need to go after simmers who may like an iteration you don’t like.)
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. After spending hundreds of dollars on this game (more than I've ever spent on any game to date), I want MORE from it. I do love it enough not to chuck the whole thing and go for something else.
With Sims 3, the game loading times were such that it became unplayable for me. Sims 4 is smoother in that regard and I can't help but love the emotions. This is not a Sims 4 is better rant--I'm just giving a reason why I'll wait for more content of Sims 4. I was very sad when they stopped Sims 3 but we had Sims 4 coming right away. I bet anything all these lulls in DLC this year is because they are developing Sims 5 (or something else) and once that's ready, THEN and only then will they announce it. I feel like they're weening us off (and yes...Sims 4 will never compare to the endless content of Sims 3--those were the glory days!)
It never will be. I wish another game company would come in and eat their lunch. If they won't give us what we want, maybe someone else will.