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  • southaltansouthaltan Posts: 152 Member
    If you have parenthood, you can level up in the parenting skill, and at level 6 you can find out what’s wrong with the baby, and at level 10, you can have a super efficient care option that does several actions to make them happy.

    But I agree the babies need help.

    I love the sims 4 but i dont love the babies that was one of my favourite parts of the game in sims 3 and now you cant even see if you baby is upset or s hungry or need attention it just like having a pet you cant select it to see whats wrong you have to just keep trying stuff till it works and there stuck constantly in the bassinet and its lame

    wouldn't it be amazing if the sims team made an expansion or game pack for babies with different activities to do with your little one
    like scans for your pregnant sim, check ups at your doctor or call out from the midwife to check on the babies if that was easier to make happen, prams so you could take your babies with you, the option to take them out of their bassinets and put them were ever like you could in sims 3, some new items like clothes for your baby and furniture like cribs and prams change tables baby rockers also a new interactive career like daycare with babies involved too

  • Dellimaccas123Dellimaccas123 Posts: 94 Member
    their pretty bad more annoying than anything and i use to love the sims babies :)
  • rcm_113rcm_113 Posts: 5 New Member
    I would like to 2nd the idea of toddlers being seen at restaurants and at the park (or other travel locations). I realize not everyone would want to have their dinner interrupted by a toddler tantrum so maybe an option in the set up box to make a location toddler or child friendly. Then when go to the park I'll see other young ones. I have added play spaces in the parks for my toddlers with the gym and bathrooms, beds, and highchairs but we are the only ones who use them. So sad.

    Another 2nd on the stroller for babies. If I can walk my dog it seems like I should be able to walk my baby.
  • NoName123NoName123 Posts: 25 Member
    How about gates to keep toddlers from wandering off; how are they so good at unlocking doors?!
  • marcel21marcel21 Posts: 12,341 Member
    Scobre wrote: »
    I really would love to see a school pack with preschool for toddlers.

    Toddlers in school. I think day care would be better.
    Origin ID MichaelUKingdon


  • MidnitemagicMidnitemagic Posts: 16 Member
    I think there needs to be a fix to how buggy it is when you put the kid in the high chair.. I stopped using them because they just turn around and take them right back out when you try to feed them. I also want to see more toys! Not large stuff for outside like what came with the toddler pack but smaller inside toys. More clothing options would be great too. There are hardly any options.
  • CaveJohnson82CaveJohnson82 Posts: 34 Member
    I think there needs to be a fix to how buggy it is when you put the kid in the high chair.. I stopped using them because they just turn around and take them right back out when you try to feed them. I also want to see more toys! Not large stuff for outside like what came with the toddler pack but smaller inside toys. More clothing options would be great too. There are hardly any options.

    Huh, I thought this was just me!
  • LadyDaisy15LadyDaisy15 Posts: 18 Member
    I really want new stairs! Like curved and ladder
  • NaviPlayzSims404NaviPlayzSims404 Posts: 2 New Member
    I would like to see some stuff that was in TS3, like the strollers, sandpit, etc. I really miss carrying around the baby and actually seeing their needs.

    Things I want for toddlers:

    -A daycare or preschool that helps toddlers with their skills.

    -More toys (small ones) that can boost their skills. Like how in TS3, if the toddler played with the xylophone enough times, it would count towards their future skills.

    -More interaction options between siblings. Gotta have that family bonding.

    -STROLLERS

    -Bring back the imaginary friends! They were really annoying in TS3(they always followed my sim into the bathroom), so if they were to add them back into the game, hopefully, they aren't as bad.

    -In TS2, you could wash toddlers and babies in the sink if they were stinky. I want that back.



    I have noticed that the toddlers don't have that many traits, (Angelic, Charmer, Clingy, Independent, Fussy, Silly, Wild, Inquisitive), so I thought of a few new toddler traits.

    Spoiled(Get Famous): These toddlers have been given a bit too much attention. They resemble Materialistic sims with the fact that they really like getting new stuff and will get a Tense moodlet if they haven't received a new toy in a while. They love being the center of attention and absolutely hate siblings. They will throw fits if they cannot have something, giving surrounding sims an Angry, Tense, or Embarrassed(if out in public) moodlet. If scolded, they will not listen. They gain skills faster around their family, and slower around unfamiliar sims.

    Trouble-Maker: You better have your house toddler-proofed, because this toddler loves to wreak havoc and cause trouble! They will Make a Mess more often and will destroy dollhouses for fun. If this toddler is angry and throws a tantrum, they will break any surrounding objects. They are more stubborn than average toddlers and will not listen to older sims if scolded. This toddler learns skills faster when alone and has a harder time using the potty, but can build their Communication and Imagination skills faster. Thinking skill takes longer to learn.

    Camera Ready(Get Famous): This toddler is a bit more "dramatic" than other tots, and love being in front of a camera. They love getting their pic taken, and pictures taken of them will always be of a higher quality. They learn Creativity and Communication faster, especially with the Wabbit Tablet(don't remember the exact name of it).
  • AstridOstrichAstridOstrich Posts: 1 New Member
    Definitely agree that we need more toys in the game to fill our little ones' toy boxes. Strollers are needed too; it would be nice to be able to take my toddlers in public and not have them run amuck and making messes everywhere.

    Some other ideas:

    More play interactions for toddlers. In Sims 2 you could tickle and play peek-a-boo with them. Imagine a toddler playing peek-a-boo with it's new baby sibling in the bassinet! In Free Play the toddlers can play Patty Cake.

    A swing that toddlers can be pushed in by older Sims.

    Playground equipment that can be used by both children and toddlers. It kinda irks me that kids can't use the ball pit and jungle gym from the Toddler Stuff Pack. Heck, I would be pleased as punch it some animations of Toddlers using existing playground equipment were patched in. Like they could try to spin the steering wheel and look out the telescope of the pirate ship or just try to follow the big kids.
  • LSM36LSM36 Posts: 593 Member
    So as an aside from the family play thread chat I wanted to offer people a place to suggest their ideas for a perfect scenarios for toddlers in TS4 in a bite size format as suggested by a couple of users in General Discussion. (Thank you @mskube and @Cinebar !)

    Everyone is welcome but please respect each other's ideas and boundaries. We all want the best from the sims for us and we all have different likes/dislikes. Use this as your ideas board for the developers to pop in and see at a glance what would make you happy for toddlers either in this version or in the future!

    I'll start with a few ideas-

    I would love to see the developers be able to use multitasking to make the 'job' of parenting much more efficient-giving sims the option to carry their little ones while watching TV, feeding, using the phone. To me this would really make the multitasking system 'shine' brighter than what we have seen up to now.

    I would like to see customisation for the little ones in a big way. It's a really fun stage in life to buy clothes, toys and costumes and I would like to see that sort of joy within the game.

    Also I would love to see the dynamics of the family change in reaction to the toddler age-the 'no' phase, the little tantrums and everything challenging that is a lot of fun!

    Links to ideas so far-
    General themes-top of page 20-LINK HERE

    General themes.

    Toddlers should be able to be player controlled-it will enable the player to decide how much mischief the toddlers get into, allows them to develop their personalities according to their ideas as a player, opens up a great deal of play which was missing before.

    Starting from scratch and gradually learning. Learning through play, observation, and as a mix between discovering by themselves or by learning with others(also player controlled so please no linear tasks like do x 5 times!). Obvious different stages shown in behaviour and animation.

    Able to interact with all other age groups. This is paramount. Being able to feel like a toddler is at the centre of a family, a part of it instead of aside to.

    Mischief-toddlers should be a challenge and be able to cause mayhem like drawing on walls, playing in unsuitable areas, getting filthy and being noisy etc. Perhaps features to help parents 'kid proof' the home to avoid so much of this-such as baby gates etc.

    Using produce to feed the toddlers-perhaps getting special learning abilities from meals with good nutritional value?

    Exploring their environment-Toddlers should be able to mimic their real life counterparts somewhat-getting into everything, curiosity on high etc

    Special interactions with close family/friends-players believing the toddlers know who those special people are.

    Demanding attention-Being able to communicate wants-perhaps when unskilled without able to prompt what they want but using pointing etc, graduating up to talking to communicate what they are after once they have learnt that skill.

    Special 'chosen' toy-if this toy is 'lost', taken away or not available they should be sad/angry, special 'loved' moodlet or something when they are close to it.

    Using basic objects in game-using furniture to lean against, pull up on, getting into bookcase and removing books, removing trash from bins, naps on sofas, sleep on floor, fingerprints on furniture, hiding under, steal food from fridges etc.

    Multitasking should be well illustrated with toddlers-aiding the sim parent to parent while busy. Watching TV while cuddling, hold toddler while on phone, toddlers placed somewhere to watch parents garden or cook etc.

    Daycare-playable career, able to hire extra staff, specialisation for teaching toddlers, reading to groups of toddlers and children, group activities for skilling and other play activities.

    Different levels of care for toddlers-Live in nanny, Visiting nanny, babysitter. Perhaps cost tied to performance? Cheaper care doesn't address skilling but more expensive can address this?

    Babysitting siblings-Older siblings like teens should be able to skill up in taking care of toddlers and children in their care. Perhaps aid parenting in later life?

    Changing dynamic of family acknowledged-children/teens getting jealous of toddler attention or excited to have a new play mate?

    Pre school-allowing care and skilling for toddlers.

    Traits affecting behaviour.

    Skill building success benefits long term learning-'bright start'.

    Good provision in CAS-enough difference to be able to style toddlers well without too much repetition of the same content. Perhaps different colour hair/skins. Also good provision in later packs.



    Milestones-affect the whole family. Family pride in getting to those milestones and ability to share proud moments with other sims.

    Better provision for grandparents-Ability to call to ask to visit and babysit, Special grandparent interactions and relationships, Experienced teacher for skills etc.

    Outdoor activities and parenting away from home-allow toddlers to be a part of picnics, camping, visiting etc with 'pack n play' to allow the parent to keep them occupied with play or sleep while out of the home. Freedom to parent outside of the home!

    Interactions in the future with pets-toddlers able to make lasting bonds with their family pets.

    Supernatural toddlers with special abilities-based on their supernatural states.

    Parents traits/skill level aid in teaching specific skills-boost for teaching subjects the parent excels at.

    Parenting skills/Couples Counselling-aids in relationship and ease of dealing with toddlers, toddlers should be aware of family they are growing up in etc.

    Special socialising opportunities-Parenting and Lamaze classes, mom and dad clubs, parent and baby clubs, Play dates.

    Baby Celebrations-Birthdays, Baby showers etc.

    Food preferences-toddler has favourites, dislikes and reacts to food given.

    Well brought up=less intense emotions swing/less chance of death by emotion-taught the ability to cope better.

    Parents and siblings can scold and praise-User directed!

    Ability to take photos/video of all family unit

    Introduce toddler before stranger sim can interact.

    Edit spaces to be kid friendly!

    Cross Generational Play, Supernaturals and Pets just below the top of page 35 and further down on this page is Emotions, Skills and skilling, then another section for Milestones, Caring for the toddler and Furniture and CAS. here


    Cross Generational Play

    Clearly it is very important given the amount of comments regarding this so far in the thread that effective cross generational play is a way to elevate the experience with toddlers from the experiences we have seen in the past. A common theme is that players want to see the toddler be clearly a part of their wider family activities and allow the fellow toddlers, children and teens to have a better access to a better relationship and even to be able to get involved in the care of their siblings.

    Suggestions for interactions across generations-

    Bathe
    Serve food or Provide tippy cups to address hunger need.
    Peek a boo
    Sing/Teach lullabies
    Tell bedtime stories (or be able to sit in when parent/other child is doing so with the toddler)
    Play dress up
    Play together with and without toys
    Aww interaction
    Family kiss
    Splash
    Read books or sing lullabies to sleep
    Rock to sleep
    Put the toddler's ear to phone when on a call to allow to listen to voice
    Potty train
    Take/Teach to Swim
    Patty Cakes
    Shh interaction
    Dance with/Teach to dance
    Help brush teeth
    Sheet fort/tents
    Making toddler toys on the work bench.
    Mimicking older siblings
    Daydream/stargaze with
    Give piggy back ride
    Play pretend
    Tickle
    Watch TV together
    'Helicopter' rides.


    Ideas for moodlets in regards to toddlers for siblings

    'In the way' aggravated because the toddler is demanding too much attention.
    'Sibling to play with' happy to have a new sibling who they can play with.

    Proper interactions with Pets in the future.
    This is a popular theme with the main interactions requested to do with curiosity at meeting and engaging with pets and being able to cultivate a loving relationship too with plenty of options to socialise.


    Supernatural requests-
    Special interactions for toddler supernaturals based on the type of supernatural they are. Cute seeing the tots learn their new 'skills' or 'powers'.


    Emotions-

    Angry, Happy, Sad, Scared, Cranky

    Perhaps starting with basic emotional states then gaining new ones as they learn key skills and start to access more complex emotional states?

    Could affect success of what toddlers try to do-example given if parents allow them to use toys etc that make them energised they will struggle to sleep? Attentive Parents encouraging using appropriate toys before bed.

    Perhaps some toddlers have moodlets based on their surroundings affecting their emotions?
    Some suggestions
    Hates strangers
    Family love
    One based on mixing with extended family
    Grandparent moodlets

    A proud emotion would be really good for acknowledging the challenge and rewards for bringing up the toddlers.


    Skills-

    A common request is to allow toddlers to skill alone and with help. Independence is a big theme.

    Sliding scale of success to display progress in learning? for example seeing wobbly toddler graduates through to a good toddler walk.

    Some suggestions of skills
    Talking skill
    Feeding themselves
    Keeping clean
    Arts and Crafts
    Singing
    Dancing
    Logic
    Surroundings skill-becoming aware of surroundings and reacting to them
    Handiness
    Swimming
    Sharing Ability
    Potty
    ABCs
    Music
    Bed-being able to graduate to a toddler bed rather than a crib.

    Ideas for how to skill

    Story time-being able to learn to read basic toddler books by themselves-start with learning from others

    Using tricycles or other toddler fun transport

    Music-singing and instruments

    Using something similar to the leapfrog system to learn independently

    Ability to use objects to learn independently or with parents/siblings depending on the preferences of the player.

    Unlocking progress with skills? Such as when toddlers learn to speak their parents being able to communicate more effectively what they are asking for making parenting less frustrating as they learn.

    Perhaps to unlock new ways to play with toys as they learn and also as they grow-so toys being appropriate across different generations.

    Often asked is to be able to retain and display any arts/crafts toddlers create!


    Milestones
    Ability for the family to share in important milestones-feeling of pride and inclusion for others as well as just parents and toddlers.

    Ideas for milestones-
    Various skill completions-especially those which make the toddler more independent such as walking, talking, potty etc.


    Caring for the toddler-
    Various options based on type of parenting, cost and what the parents want from it.

    Live in nanny-ability to allow a close live in nanny to teach, care and look out for toddlers while parents are busy at any time of the day or night.

    Nanny-Good quality nanny to care for, teaching and support parents while they are out of the home.

    Babysitter-Perhaps a cheaper, less effective option? Maybe less likely to teach, and slower than the more expensive options?

    Pre schools-Ability to send toddler as an option to a preschool with different specialities and to meet other children?

    Daycare-People want to be able to run their own daycare business-with enhanced abilities for group tasks while little ones of all generations are learning and playing. Challenge but ability to deal with multiple children/tots etc in one go through tasks and ability to effectively keep them in the daycare area which is appropriate-gates to keep them safely in those areas? Ability to set the locks for different age ranges to allow children to pass but not tots?


    Furniture and CAS-

    People want a good mix and provision of CAS features and furniture of different styles to cater to their different tastes in game.

    Ideas for themes-
    Princesses, Dinosaurs, Primary and Pastel colours, Animals, Robots, and a slightly more 'grown up' fashion toddler section for the little ones.

    In CAS people want a lot of options for different hair styles and colours so the options don't get stale and they can have traditional or more fashionable looks for their little tots.



    Ideas for interactions-including general, with others, mischief and others! On page 41 here

    Interactions-(some will bleed into other categories)

    General
    Toss in Air
    Crawl up
    Poke for attention
    Teething and related interactions
    Fussy-fussing about things they don't fancy doing for whatever reason
    Drooling
    Explore-this is a wide idea but including 'dirty' situations like climbing in or knocking over bins etc, exploring their environment, using their various senses too!
    Singing-learning lullabies, singing along to music
    Clapping-along to music etc
    Share-this is a really popular concept for tots to learn
    'Up, up' gesture
    Burp
    Pamper
    Wake Parents


    Relationship with others
    Watch others-suggestions include allowing tots to watch parents cook etc
    Cuddle- suggestions on legs, on the lap, on the couch and with the ability to have cuddles from other tots all the way through the ages
    Peek a boo
    Family Kisses
    Rock


    With objects etc
    Swim-from aided in beginning learning to swim unaided
    Play in toilet-other suggestions 'wash' toys or objects in toilet, block toilet with objects
    Splash puddles
    Solve-for puzzles etc-aided and unaided.
    Watch/react to TV
    Escape from crib
    Put themselves to bed in toddler bed
    Reading
    Play with TV remote
    Play with parents phone
    Blow bubbles


    Playing interactions
    Tea Party
    Play in mud
    Hide 'n' Seek


    Mischief
    Temper tantrum-a lot of players are requesting this is also able to be player controlled should they wish it.
    Time out-consequences to misbehaving!
    Chew on (getting hold of things and chewing on them like real life tots!)
    Grab hair
    Climb into-various areas-in cupboards etc


    Misc.
    Vomiting-perhaps being played with in unsuitable ways straight after eating, illness or random occurance.


    For other ages to do with toddlers-

    Ability to pass toddler to another without putting down first
    Ability for others to talk to or coo over toddler while in another sims arms
    'Ask what's wrong' perhaps unlocked as the talking skill is learnt to make caring for tots easier
    Ability to bathe toddler in sink/bath/dedicated toddler baths



    Ideas for content-On page 48 here

    Content
    There has been so many fantastic ideas for content to go alongside toddlers so I will try to sort them into different categories. There are wonderful pictures posted throughout the thread so please make sure to click through and see visual clues too! Many of the content will overlap categories but I will do my best to get some order!

    General

    Nap blanket-a blanket for laying on the floor so the tots can nap there

    Toddler gate-to keep the tots from getting out alone

    Toddler carry harness-for walking etc

    Toddler reins

    Sippy Cups

    Night light/star projectors

    Pack 'n' play for while out of the house-toy, sleeping mat and food

    Diaper bag


    Furniture

    Toddler beds-little beds the toddler can use independently of care givers-a step up from cribs idea for Multi baby/toddler crib/ bed

    Cribs-plenty of choices of traditional, modern and character based

    Strollers-to take the toddlers out. Perhaps with a carry bag for taking care of tots while out of the house-maybe a sleep mat and a little toy etc

    Walker-To help the little tots learn and for fun at the same time.

    Playpen-indoor and outdoor versions and a few styles to fit with various decor

    Sand box-hopefully available for use for all ages

    Kiddy pool-little paddle pool for kids and tots to play in safely

    High Chairs-self explanatory but some great ideas for ones which 'snap' to the table so caregiver can feed them from the table as they eat.

    Kiddy chairs-mini versions for little tots!

    Rocking chair-comforting for care giver and the tots

    Changing table

    Potty

    Bouncers

    Indoor swing for comfort


    Toys

    Tea sets for toy tea parties

    Swings for tots as well as children

    Rocking playground equipment

    Clay enabled for tots

    Art station-drawing, brick building etc but with ability to retain the art they create and display around the house

    Instruments-xylophone, triangle etc

    Kitchen playset

    Bubble blowing

    Floaties for pool

    Learning toys

    Stuffed animals

    Dolls

    Battery cars

    Boxes to decorate for play

    Sidewalk chalk

    Balloons

    Buildable puppet theatre

    Mobiles

    Seesaws

    Merry go round

    Trampolines

    Toy phones

    Play doh

    Lego

    Imaginary friends

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    Green bar edit by SimStaffBethelle:
    Posted by SimGuruDrake
    Before I head off for the evening I wanted to come in and say that I am moving this to the general discussion area.

    Please do not comment in here with "I don't want toddlers" or anything of the sort. This is an ideas thread for those players who do and what they would like to see from this life state and it should remain as such.

    First of all, all of that. I have to go slowly through it, there's so much.
    But here I go,
    There needs to be more life stages especially if we update toddlers.
    1. Babies need to be updated, and be differentiated from toddlers. You don't just learn to talk as a toddler. You babble as a baby, learn 1 word and repeat it over and over again. And Then you start talking a bit as a toddler.
    I want first time sitting up as a baby milestone. Getting into blended foods. Mashed peas etc.
    Making a really stinky diaper.
    Accidentally peeing on your parent/diaper changer.
    Trying to put anything you get in your hands into your mouth.
    Crawling. Doing the pulling up from sitting thing, using something to hold you up so can stand.
    2. Then toddlers starting from crawling, and already know how to stand. Working up to walking.
    Crawling and scooting while they work on it.
    Speaking a mix of baby talk and adult words til they learn new ones. You're a toddler from like 2-6. We should be able to see some change.
    Like a Toddler.2 stage where you're like 5, know a lot of words but still can't talk straight. Have tantrums and need naps. But you can walk w/o falling, but not run without falling.
    3. Little kids stage 6-8(9). You can run around, play. Love toys and cuddles. You know not to pet the dog or cat too hard. You just started school, but your only hw is flash cards and readers.
    4. THEN we get kids. The kind we have now with some upgrades. Still silly, but you walk to school by yourself next. You can grab water ice on the way home and not get yelled at. You can go to the library with your older sibs and complain that you don't need a babysitter. Ages 9-11. TWEENS.
    5. Now PRETEENS 11-12. You're big, you're bad, you're in the double digits and THIS close to being a teenager. You look and sound Exactly the same. Maybe gained an inch in height. And no one can tell you ANYTHING.
    6. THEN TEENS. Same as now but less lame. I wrote in other threads my opinions on teens. Prom ,driving,etc. Limited dating functions. Maybe marry your hs sweetheart after graduation. A special option only for the deepest teen love.
    7. But! YA needs a rite of passage event. You turned 18 (and we're like UK in this) and hookah and nectar all day. College. Dating. You could date an elder if you wanted. The first year you should look like you do as a teen but with an aura of attitude a mile long.
    8. 2nd year of YA is your Glow Up year. Literally just a sim month or two into it, you look how you're gonna look. With room for makeovers if you want.

    Yeah think that's it.
    Check out my posts in the Ideas corner, and see the Simsverse living inside my head. :blush:
  • LSM36LSM36 Posts: 593 Member
    I agree on babyproofing and passing the kid to someone else.
    But not the you are what you eat thing.
    Also I wish they could keep the toddler trait and have it evolve as they grow.
    Check out my posts in the Ideas corner, and see the Simsverse living inside my head. :blush:
  • ReitannaReitanna Posts: 294 Member
    I honestly just want more clothes and accessories for both toddlers and children, as well as full body sliders. all the kids look the same. also, unnatural colors should be available for children and toddlers; it's a game, who says sims can't be born with blue hair?
    I'm so old, I remember when "hashtags" were called POUND SIGNS.

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