I'm really worried about the absence of snow, and also about the snow on the roofs. Honestly, it looks like they've re-used the First Snow mod and that's fine. This is so amateurish.
I can not wait to see how they will justify themselves. They will probably say that in order to do some things in these packs, they have to give up on others.
The funniest thing is that they said that a new world has not been added in this package precisely so that they could develop stations well in all worlds, but it seems that it is not exactly like this ...
They better not use this excuse what can be more important than snow in an expansion pack where the majority of players buy it because of snow
Honestly I'm very dissapointed that there doesn't seem to be any build up of snow. Don't get me wrong I'm very excited to have Seasons alltogether. Someone on Twitter shared this picture:
It does look a little like the Sim is sinking in the snow, but you can't see it that well.
Then I took this screenshot from the trailer:
The snow seems to have some depth and you can see footsteps kinda? Or it's just some effect like the snow angel one from the trailer.
Is it possible that when they filmed the trailer the snow didn't accumulate as much?
I'm looking back at the trailer and I still don't know what to think because now in the game you can shovel snow away. I mean the guy is shoveling what looks like a small mound of snow away.
believe there will not be any deep snow, as they would show it in photos or comments ...
If any good progamador can, make a mount of deep snow and show them that it is easy and that they were lazy.
I mean, they'll all expect to buy to give an answer (which will not have) ... I feel disappointed, I hope they just have not shown it yet or that will add in the future.
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I'm looking back at the trailer and I still don't know what to think because now in the game you can shovel snow away. I mean the guy is shoveling what looks like a small mound of snow away.
That is more than likely an object that spawns during winter. I'm guessing if you shovel it you'll find a fossil or whatever.
I'm looking back at the trailer and I still don't know what to think because now in the game you can shovel snow away. I mean the guy is shoveling what looks like a small mound of snow away.
That is more than likely an object that spawns during winter. I'm guessing if you shovel it you'll find a fossil or whatever.
Yes that is what I thought too. Clearly the snow won't be blocking the access to the house or anything, so I guess the only reason why we would shovel snow bumps would be to find collectibles. I can't think of any other reason. Other than watching the shoveling animation in awe because sims can use a shovel for the first time in Sims 4.
I'm looking back at the trailer and I still don't know what to think because now in the game you can shovel snow away. I mean the guy is shoveling what looks like a small mound of snow away.
That is more than likely an object that spawns during winter. I'm guessing if you shovel it you'll find a fossil or whatever.
Yeah true or it could just be a chore that you're sims could do if you want them to do it. Like raking the leafs or something.
Some people have quoted this image hoping to find, perhaps, some kind of depth, but unfortunately this is not the case.
As you may have noticed, the Sims leave footprints on the snow as they walk on it. These footprints have a bit of high relief.
If you notice, there are two Sims on the sidewalk, one going in the opposite direction to the other. What happens is that the male sim was walking very close to the footprints that were left by the female so, that walked in the opposite direction. This ended up creating an illusion of optics that his feet would be sunk into the snow, when in fact they are not.
And yet, if you look at the whole lot shown in the same picture, you may notice that all objects and plants are fully exposed out of the snow.
I'm looking back at the trailer and I still don't know what to think because now in the game you can shovel snow away. I mean the guy is shoveling what looks like a small mound of snow away.
That is more than likely an object that spawns during winter. I'm guessing if you shovel it you'll find a fossil or whatever.
Yeah true or it could just be a chore that you're sims could do if you want them to do it. Like raking the leafs or something.
If raking the leafs works as in TS3, it gives you leaf piles to interact with, so you have an incentive to do it; but shoveling bumps of snow that are not really in the way would be useless unless you find stuff in them. I am guessing pets can interact with them as well, like they already do with clods.
Some people have quoted this image hoping to find, perhaps, some kind of depth, but unfortunately this is not the case.
As you may have noticed, the Sims leave footprints on the snow as they walk on it. These footprints have a bit of high relief.
If you notice, there are two Sims on the sidewalk, one going in the opposite direction to the other. What happens is that the male sim was walking very close to the footprints that were left by the female so, that walked in the opposite direction. This ended up creating an illusion of optics that his feet would be sunk into the snow, when in fact they are not.
And yet, if you look at the whole lot shown in the same picture, you may notice that all objects and plants are fully exposed out of the snow.
I said this before; there's no actual snow on ANYTHING in that screenshot. It's just white paint on the ground and roof. Not even the lampposts have snow.
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I think a future pack with a new world with heavy snow but not needing Seasons may be possible (assuming it's technically doable of course). Sort of like Dine Out and Get to Work both having businesses, or both Outdoor Retreat and Jungle Adventure as two destinations. I could totally see a Winter GP (heavy snow, ski/snowboarding, etc) and a Summer GP (beach, lounge chairs, ect) for example.
So more dissection of expansion packs to make other packs? I hope that's not what's happening, because it's wrong on so many levels.
If we're buying Seasons, we should, at the very least, get the complete spectrum of weather in that pack. Now, if they wanted to make a disaster pack with tornadoes, floods, and hurricanes, that would be something entirely different. However, basically a dusting of snow is not acceptable.
This is what I expect from an expansion in which one of the major objectives is to introduce snow into the game:
It's not even just the depth of the snow on the ground. Look at the depth of the snow falling from the sky. There are actually flakes that fall right in front of the camera and others that are far off in the distance.
I agree it is like Apts that is in CL and saying maybe down the road there may patch it in. When I hear that I think "Yeah right" and seeing the limitations I see in Sims 4 make me think "No we will never see it". Sims 4 has improved but not in all the right places and sadly Sims 4 will not and may not see features some are waiting for and if you do it is not what one has expected or want.
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Even though we might not get great snow detail, it is the gameplay that mainly counts!
I can agree with that and that is why I am waiting for the rest of the details, However one can be disappointed with one aspect of the pack and pleased with rest.
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Some people have quoted this image hoping to find, perhaps, some kind of depth, but unfortunately this is not the case.
As you may have noticed, the Sims leave footprints on the snow as they walk on it. These footprints have a bit of high relief.
If you notice, there are two Sims on the sidewalk, one going in the opposite direction to the other. What happens is that the male sim was walking very close to the footprints that were left by the female so, that walked in the opposite direction. This ended up creating an illusion of optics that his feet would be sunk into the snow, when in fact they are not.
And yet, if you look at the whole lot shown in the same picture, you may notice that all objects and plants are fully exposed out of the snow.
I said this before; there's no actual snow on ANYTHING in that screenshot. It's just white paint on the ground and roof. Not even the lampposts have snow.
I'm wondering how this white paint works and is added to everything. Well clearly not everything since you say the lampposts are immune to snow.
Hopefully modders give us a retexture for the snow because that plain MS Paint white is terrible. Does not look like snow at all. Tech is supposed to go forward with this closed off game being a Loading Screen Simulator we should have 3D weather, snow build up, and real looking snow texture. Sims 3 may have its problems but it did push things compared to Sims 4 so far. How come that game can do 3D weather and snow build up but Sims 4 cannot? Oh well that's the Sims 4 for ya.
Leaving it to the modders is ridiculous seeing not everyone believes in using mods in a developing game. I will never consider using a mod until a game is finished and no longer in development as I don't care to create problems in the game. So not a solution - just a bandaid that might create more issues than it is worth.
Besides, if modders could actually create snow they would have done so by now.
I woudn't say that.
I could see them not bothering with something they believe EA will eventually create since we had it in The Sims 2 and 3.
However, if it seems something EA refuses to do, then modders will probably rise to the challenge.
I think that is what is going to happen.
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It hasn't been confirmed yet, though. If EA confirms it, then I'll get get a little bummed, but until then... I'm hopeful that that's not the case.
I agree with that.
It could be that they made announcement trailer with the build before the final build.
But these low performance graphics are getting to me where the detail in meshes are concerned.
Sometimes I feel like I am playing a game for high performance tablets. Everything is so blocky.
They are doing a great job making it look good, just don't look at things too closely.
> @rudy8292 said: > I'm very glad that Seasons is coming, since it is one of the most requested packs, however there is (like always) something obviously lacking about an EP, so here's the thing with Seasons, which someone pointed out: > > > > > > > The EP looks good, but the details such as this are just the downfall of Sims 4 packs. > > Shoes don't sink in the snow, since it seems like the only thing snow really does is turning the floor white and nothing else. Same with roofs, why is the snow so flat?. > > Little disappointed with that, since Winter is my favorite Season in the game.. > > Also: Since we had the amazing melting of snow in Sims 3, you know, the gradual thing; will it be like this in the SIms 4 too, or will it just be some on/off switch?.. > > *Update* > > Looks like the Windows CAN become blurry. Still waiting for the snow thing though.. > > Couldn't add the links, even tho I have been a member for over a year... what ever.
Where is the snow? Half an inch thick at most? A light dusting over everything? THAT'S NOT SNOW!!!! That's just a cold spell... There had better be layers of snow on everything, with the possibility of really getting SNOWED IN! Waist deep snow is what I am wanting myself, snow plows running the streets, and having to shovel the walk from the door to the road...
I said this in another thread but I'll just throw in my perspective here too.
Judging from some of the hints and the common use of the word "climate" by the devs, I think that there is a possibility that we're jumping the gun a little and still have yet to see how seasons actually work in Sims 4, and I think there will be a new twist to them. Climate is different and deeper than simple seasonal change. If each map has its own climate, then the seasons won't look the same in each one. For example, if Oasis Springs generally functions as a desert, it probably won't snow there at all, but in their "winter" season, it might rain a little. Willow Creek, which we saw in the trailer, gets at least a light snow in winter. But the devs have mentioned that blizzards are a thing, which can be assumed we haven't seen yet. It's very possible that if a blizzard hits, we'll see much more snow accumulation. And it's also possible that blizzards will be more likely in seasonally versatile areas like Brindleton Bay or Windenburg (for example) and the snow could look much different than in Willow Creek.
I just think that there's still a possibility that the devs haven't "shown their hand", so to speak, with the Seasons pack. Remember, they are always looking to do old things in new ways. This would be something never done before.
I will add that if the "flat" snow is indeed all we have, I agree it's disappointing, but I'm not going to stay with that conclusion just yet.
I said this in another thread but I'll just throw in my perspective here too.
Judging from some of the hints and the common use of the word "climate" by the devs, I think that there is a possibility that we're jumping the gun a little and still have yet to see how seasons actually work in Sims 4, and I think there will be a new twist to them. Climate is different and deeper than simple seasonal change. If each map has its own climate, then the seasons won't look the same in each one. For example, if Oasis Springs generally functions as a desert, it probably won't snow there at all, but in their "winter" season, it might rain a little. Willow Creek, which we saw in the trailer, gets at least a light snow in winter. But the devs have mentioned that blizzards are a thing, which can be assumed we haven't seen yet. It's very possible that if a blizzard hits, we'll see much more snow accumulation. And it's also possible that blizzards will be more likely in seasonally versatile areas like Brindleton Bay or Windenburg (for example) and the snow could look much different than in Willow Creek.
I just think that there's still a possibility that the devs haven't "shown their hand", so to speak, with the Seasons pack. Remember, they are always looking to do old things in new ways. This would be something never done before.
I will add that if the "flat" snow is indeed all we have, I agree it's disappointing, but I'm not going to stay with that conclusion just yet.
Now THIS is some logical thinking. Absolutely agree. But as others have mentioned, I sincerely hope they haven't limited blizzards and such to EP worlds like Brindleton Bay. I would assume those who purchase Seasons with just the base game can experience all forms of weather.
So let's think about this: how many base game worlds are there?
WC
OS
MP
..
is there another? I can't remember. So what I think, along the lines of @LiELF 's post, is that each base game world will have it's own climate. WC will likely have all four seasons with extreme hot/cold weathers like northern countries, and OS will likely have a warmer climate, and I'm not sure about MP.
But I am definitely excited to hear more. And I absolutely hope that there is some sort of snow accumulation.
Some people have quoted this image hoping to find, perhaps, some kind of depth, but unfortunately this is not the case.
As you may have noticed, the Sims leave footprints on the snow as they walk on it. These footprints have a bit of high relief.
If you notice, there are two Sims on the sidewalk, one going in the opposite direction to the other. What happens is that the male sim was walking very close to the footprints that were left by the female so, that walked in the opposite direction. This ended up creating an illusion of optics that his feet would be sunk into the snow, when in fact they are not.
And yet, if you look at the whole lot shown in the same picture, you may notice that all objects and plants are fully exposed out of the snow.
Those deciduous shrubs are still very green looking.
We saw WC in the trailer, based on New Orleans, which as I understand it is quite warm (WC has swampland) so not much snow makes sense. WB, FH and BB, if you look at the landscapes and vegetation, are based on places with comparatively cooler climates, so heavier snowfall in these sorts of places would make sense. They're not going to show these worlds in a trailer as they only show the new pack + base game, but seeing as how the climates are going to differ from world to world, I would expect worlds other than WC to have heavier accumulations of snow.
I said this in another thread but I'll just throw in my perspective here too.
Judging from some of the hints and the common use of the word "climate" by the devs, I think that there is a possibility that we're jumping the gun a little and still have yet to see how seasons actually work in Sims 4, and I think there will be a new twist to them. Climate is different and deeper than simple seasonal change. If each map has its own climate, then the seasons won't look the same in each one. For example, if Oasis Springs generally functions as a desert, it probably won't snow there at all, but in their "winter" season, it might rain a little. Willow Creek, which we saw in the trailer, gets at least a light snow in winter. But the devs have mentioned that blizzards are a thing, which can be assumed we haven't seen yet. It's very possible that if a blizzard hits, we'll see much more snow accumulation. And it's also possible that blizzards will be more likely in seasonally versatile areas like Brindleton Bay or Windenburg (for example) and the snow could look much different than in Willow Creek.
I just think that there's still a possibility that the devs haven't "shown their hand", so to speak, with the Seasons pack. Remember, they are always looking to do old things in new ways. This would be something never done before.
I will add that if the "flat" snow is indeed all we have, I agree it's disappointing, but I'm not going to stay with that conclusion just yet.
Now THIS is some logical thinking. Absolutely agree. But as others have mentioned, I sincerely hope they haven't limited blizzards and such to EP worlds like Brindleton Bay. I would assume those who purchase Seasons with just the base game can experience all forms of weather.
So let's think about this: how many base game worlds are there?
WC
OS
MP
..
is there another? I can't remember. So what I think, along the lines of @LiELF 's post, is that each base game world will have it's own climate. WC will likely have all four seasons with extreme hot/cold weathers like northern countries, and OS will likely have a warmer climate, and I'm not sure about MP.
But I am definitely excited to hear more. And I absolutely hope that there is some sort of snow accumulation.
Base game maps are Oasis Springs, Willow Creek, and Newcrest. MP is from Get To Work.
I was wondering myself if Willow Creek will only get light snow because it was originally inspired by New Orleans, which doesn't really get cold winters. But I don't see them repeating the warm climate of Oasis Springs and we already know that it snows in WC because of the trailer. So that leaves Newcrest. Maybe Newcrest gets full on blizzards.
I said this in another thread but I'll just throw in my perspective here too.
Judging from some of the hints and the common use of the word "climate" by the devs, I think that there is a possibility that we're jumping the gun a little and still have yet to see how seasons actually work in Sims 4, and I think there will be a new twist to them. Climate is different and deeper than simple seasonal change. If each map has its own climate, then the seasons won't look the same in each one. For example, if Oasis Springs generally functions as a desert, it probably won't snow there at all, but in their "winter" season, it might rain a little. Willow Creek, which we saw in the trailer, gets at least a light snow in winter. But the devs have mentioned that blizzards are a thing, which can be assumed we haven't seen yet. It's very possible that if a blizzard hits, we'll see much more snow accumulation. And it's also possible that blizzards will be more likely in seasonally versatile areas like Brindleton Bay or Windenburg (for example) and the snow could look much different than in Willow Creek.
I just think that there's still a possibility that the devs haven't "shown their hand", so to speak, with the Seasons pack. Remember, they are always looking to do old things in new ways. This would be something never done before.
I will add that if the "flat" snow is indeed all we have, I agree it's disappointing, but I'm not going to stay with that conclusion just yet.
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Is it possible that when they filmed the trailer the snow didn't accumulate as much?
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If any good progamador can, make a mount of deep snow and show them that it is easy and that they were lazy.
I mean, they'll all expect to buy to give an answer (which will not have) ... I feel disappointed, I hope they just have not shown it yet or that will add in the future.
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That is more than likely an object that spawns during winter. I'm guessing if you shovel it you'll find a fossil or whatever.
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Yes that is what I thought too. Clearly the snow won't be blocking the access to the house or anything, so I guess the only reason why we would shovel snow bumps would be to find collectibles. I can't think of any other reason. Other than watching the shoveling animation in awe because sims can use a shovel for the first time in Sims 4.
Yeah true or it could just be a chore that you're sims could do if you want them to do it. Like raking the leafs or something.
As you may have noticed, the Sims leave footprints on the snow as they walk on it. These footprints have a bit of high relief.
If you notice, there are two Sims on the sidewalk, one going in the opposite direction to the other. What happens is that the male sim was walking very close to the footprints that were left by the female so, that walked in the opposite direction. This ended up creating an illusion of optics that his feet would be sunk into the snow, when in fact they are not.
And yet, if you look at the whole lot shown in the same picture, you may notice that all objects and plants are fully exposed out of the snow.
If raking the leafs works as in TS3, it gives you leaf piles to interact with, so you have an incentive to do it; but shoveling bumps of snow that are not really in the way would be useless unless you find stuff in them. I am guessing pets can interact with them as well, like they already do with clods.
I said this before; there's no actual snow on ANYTHING in that screenshot. It's just white paint on the ground and roof. Not even the lampposts have snow.
I agree it is like Apts that is in CL and saying maybe down the road there may patch it in. When I hear that I think "Yeah right" and seeing the limitations I see in Sims 4 make me think "No we will never see it". Sims 4 has improved but not in all the right places and sadly Sims 4 will not and may not see features some are waiting for and if you do it is not what one has expected or want.
I can agree with that and that is why I am waiting for the rest of the details, However one can be disappointed with one aspect of the pack and pleased with rest.
I'm wondering how this white paint works and is added to everything. Well clearly not everything since you say the lampposts are immune to snow.
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I think that is what is going to happen.
I agree with that.
It could be that they made announcement trailer with the build before the final build.
But these low performance graphics are getting to me where the detail in meshes are concerned.
Sometimes I feel like I am playing a game for high performance tablets. Everything is so blocky.
They are doing a great job making it look good, just don't look at things too closely.
> I'm very glad that Seasons is coming, since it is one of the most requested packs, however there is (like always) something obviously lacking about an EP, so here's the thing with Seasons, which someone pointed out:
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Couldn't add the links, even tho I have been a member for over a year... what ever.
Where is the snow? Half an inch thick at most? A light dusting over everything? THAT'S NOT SNOW!!!! That's just a cold spell... There had better be layers of snow on everything, with the possibility of really getting SNOWED IN! Waist deep snow is what I am wanting myself, snow plows running the streets, and having to shovel the walk from the door to the road...
Darn, good point. I really liked snow days too.
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Judging from some of the hints and the common use of the word "climate" by the devs, I think that there is a possibility that we're jumping the gun a little and still have yet to see how seasons actually work in Sims 4, and I think there will be a new twist to them. Climate is different and deeper than simple seasonal change. If each map has its own climate, then the seasons won't look the same in each one. For example, if Oasis Springs generally functions as a desert, it probably won't snow there at all, but in their "winter" season, it might rain a little. Willow Creek, which we saw in the trailer, gets at least a light snow in winter. But the devs have mentioned that blizzards are a thing, which can be assumed we haven't seen yet. It's very possible that if a blizzard hits, we'll see much more snow accumulation. And it's also possible that blizzards will be more likely in seasonally versatile areas like Brindleton Bay or Windenburg (for example) and the snow could look much different than in Willow Creek.
I just think that there's still a possibility that the devs haven't "shown their hand", so to speak, with the Seasons pack. Remember, they are always looking to do old things in new ways. This would be something never done before.
I will add that if the "flat" snow is indeed all we have, I agree it's disappointing, but I'm not going to stay with that conclusion just yet.
Now THIS is some logical thinking. Absolutely agree. But as others have mentioned, I sincerely hope they haven't limited blizzards and such to EP worlds like Brindleton Bay. I would assume those who purchase Seasons with just the base game can experience all forms of weather.
So let's think about this: how many base game worlds are there?
WC
OS
MP
..
is there another? I can't remember. So what I think, along the lines of @LiELF 's post, is that each base game world will have it's own climate. WC will likely have all four seasons with extreme hot/cold weathers like northern countries, and OS will likely have a warmer climate, and I'm not sure about MP.
But I am definitely excited to hear more. And I absolutely hope that there is some sort of snow accumulation.
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Those deciduous shrubs are still very green looking.
We saw WC in the trailer, based on New Orleans, which as I understand it is quite warm (WC has swampland) so not much snow makes sense. WB, FH and BB, if you look at the landscapes and vegetation, are based on places with comparatively cooler climates, so heavier snowfall in these sorts of places would make sense. They're not going to show these worlds in a trailer as they only show the new pack + base game, but seeing as how the climates are going to differ from world to world, I would expect worlds other than WC to have heavier accumulations of snow.
Base game maps are Oasis Springs, Willow Creek, and Newcrest. MP is from Get To Work.
I was wondering myself if Willow Creek will only get light snow because it was originally inspired by New Orleans, which doesn't really get cold winters. But I don't see them repeating the warm climate of Oasis Springs and we already know that it snows in WC because of the trailer. So that leaves Newcrest. Maybe Newcrest gets full on blizzards.
it is my hope ...