If there is anything in my post that you do not understand please commentPlease bring it back!https://simsvip.com/2014/07/02/the-sims-4-gurus-talk-story-progression/
I just found out that the non active NPC in the world do not progress, do not upgrade in skill, don't form relationships, etc. You got to control them for this to happen they do not do this on your own!
All the other Sims in the world are "not instanced" which basically means that nothing is happening to them. Do mods fix this? Do mods fix this?
No they do not the MCC command do not change anything for these NPC they do no progress.
No other mods can change this as its hard coded in Sim 4 and the modders cannot access these code. And Sim 4 system does not work in this way anyway. The developer of MCC command has confirmed he cannot modify it like you can with the Sim 3 so EA needs to change this.
If EA did bring it back
Then the developer of MCC can add more options to it so they won't be issues and heart breaks just like what the mod is doing to active sim giving you balance and better game play.
What I am wanting EA to do?
To just bring it back or even make it better so the modders can also come in and edit it cause right now they cannot. And as posted an option so you can choose which npc should progress and what they should do automatically.
What is MCC command? Few months old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M5HXUWNfuo&t=381shttps://deaderpool-mccc.com/#TopSim 3 Author Retired
You can use the NRAAS mod to change your NPC so they do progress on but sim 3 system is so different to Sim 4 and this has been taken away from us and so not happy.
The developer needs to bring this back into Sim 4 or open the code up so modders can change it! We want to see our NPC familes and friends progress in the world! We want to meet new NPC and see them Progress and change? if Progression can't be in the game then why have so many worlds? Is it just you enjoying the entire world and all the other NPC are meaningless?
So many fans who love story progression will want to see this cause it was such a hit for Sim 3 using the NRAAS mod which the author has now retired from it. So you can't use it in the Sim 4!
So please bring this back before any other DLC!
This makes me feel I should go back to Sim 3!
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So having EA redo it and make it better will help this and give options so players do not need to use mods but if they choose then the mods will enchance it.
This is not about just 5 houses of sim to control but the entire world!
Bee perhaps if you look into the NRAAS for sim 3 and see how much the author has spending trying to make it better it will change your mind? As well as the MCC command. Perhaps you and others do not see its necessary but I don't think you totally understand the urgent issue. Are you happy to control all 300 of the sims in your world? Or do you just like to control a few? If you want to micromanage all 300 you won't have time to progress any of your sims cause there is too many too control. This is not about just 5 houses its about the entire world.
If you want to control some of them like 100% of us who want to micro manage each family then that can happen too and EA should have the option in there.
But you are not going to stay in your little lot with just vising 5 houses are you? You can but you will want to travel and visit the world too?
So having progression means the NPC runs their own lives which will make visiting places more interesting.
if npc can progress in career, skill, relationship wouldn't it make it enjoyable for you? Cause right now these things cannot happen and you have to control each one which is impossible if you have a world of 300 sim. It spoils the fun cause the npc can't live on their own.
Sim 4 has already been out for a few years now so its time they revist it cause try to look at ourside of the story. There have already been so many expansion for the sim 4. So be sensitive to us since we have not see this in the game yet.
If the developer do reply and say sorry it just can't be done with the sim 4 then well other expansion can follow.
And also people are complaning they want open world too so if its all about just controlling 1-5 familes then Sim 4 should have just been about 1 lot of land and not many worlds with places you can go.
Summary
Can you explain why you don't like it?
Why do you want to settle for this limited feature? Or random actions when its all faked? They only doing things when your sim is on the lot they do not do their own thing. It does not matter what they do they don't progress like your control sims so that is what matters. Will you be happy to skill all 300 NPC in the world? Why not allow them to do it themselves for deeper role play? Why would you hate this if it was an option?
EA DEV
If you want unplayed families to continue beyond their current generation you'll need to try for a baby with them or play as them.
EA DEV
Oh no, new households will move in as others die. It pulls from the townie families first; gives them a spot to live.
User
Will children, once grown up, find themselves jobs or will we switch to that household to change it?
EA DEV
You would switch and play them.
User
Not sure if they would also move away ???
EA DEV
No, they won't randomly move away. Of course you can move them to a different home or out of the world altogether.
User
But you can't have 5th generation Goths unless you managed that right?
EA DEV
Right.
If story Progression is not in the game
i think everyone needs to read what the dev says and my first post carefully. Or ask questions about it cause I know the system far more then anyone here. Since no one here are modders so do not know how it really functions. And I know the dev of the mod who know the sim 4 system well.
But I apologize that yes NPC will do things but its not progression and no one has given a good explanation why what It such a hated thing when I keep saying it will improve your game play! [/b]
Don't you want to see your families continue and friends of NPC continue and to see what they do and how they grow? And 30% of you have said no to it! EA should not continue with building of the different world and just keep it small cause that is what you are all asking.
You are killing the progress of the sims future if you keep wanting EA to build a dead world where all that matter you is random generated activities.
I want to micro manage and not that taken away
The return to story progression of what I want is not for EA to take away micro management cause modders and the likes all love this and we play it so we can. Its for the NPC that we do not control that should do their own thing cause we cannot control all 100-300 of them. It is those NPC that need progression just like the sims we control.
And no one ignores the other NPC in the world cause all your relationship will be connected as you talk to them and do actives with them. You will marry them too so you eventually your family will become too big to control that it helps to make it more realistic that the NPC can control themselves. And an option if you still want to control them of that they can control themselves.
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@BookyGirl13 You also have posts from people listed, upset about toddlers and pools not being in S4 but yet we have those features in the game now. Perhaps you should update your post to reflect current complaints/posts about the game?
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Some people don't use mods.
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I have updated my post again cause as said no mod are able to add story progression and also are you talking to me bookgirl13?
I do agree the MC MODS adds alot of things that Sim 4 has left out. What I am asking is that there is choice as not everyone wants to go from house to house and town to town to manage 300 familes.
What the modders want is for EA to open up story progression or even make it better so the modders like MCC command can be able to go in and edit it and modify it. Because right now the dev has said he cannot do this.
Can you explain your play style if its not important? Do you just only concentrate on 1-2 families how about your interaction with the world? But yes that is why i have put it as an option so you can decide to turn certain household on or off. Right not you just do not have the options at all and the mods cannot do anything.
However, I wouldn't mind an option to either turn it on or off (not per NPC necessarily so I didn't vote for that) to be added to the game.
I also feel the need to say something about this statement: NPC's do form relationships .. they don't story progress in other ways but they do make friends and even romantic attachments. They also skill on their own as long as it is in the broader area your played sim is in, you don't have to control them for them to skill at something. Like when they are jogging by, playing chess in the background, in a club gathering that skills (that your sim is around), working as an employee.. ect. I make groups just to skill sims not in my played household fairly often.
To those who have voted NO
Please to those who don't want it explain why will it be so bad or unhelpful? Or how will it ruin your game? Why don't you want NPC to run their own lives so you can be excited too discover what they have been up too? Is visiting your friends in real life dull and very bad? That is how SHOCKED I am with out any good explanation?
Do you know it can improve the quality of your game play? Have any of you played games where NPC had real activities instead of random generated ones?
I know you didn't ask me, but I just want to share my opinion so you see there are more people that don't need story progression.
In my case, I wouldn't want Story Progression in my worlds imposed since I like micromanaging. I play rotational and handle all the families in my worlds I care for. Even the ones I don't play, I still like to be in control, every now and then I'd go and edit them to add children or pets or a partner or whatnot.
I ignore completely the sims generated by the game and they never get a lot assigned, so I couldn't care less about their stories or lifes since they are like part of the decor, like just filler for the background of my game.
I want other people to have the option, but I want it to be that, an option.
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The good thing about a game like The Sims is that there are many ways of playing and enjoying it. This is the power of this game and the reason why our community is so diverse.
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Alba please read all my replies and even my polls, I am not saying any thing should be restricted but 30% of you are saying it should not have progression.
I just want story progression back with options so all players can play how they want but the story progression needs to be in the game because it isn't. And Players can turn it off or use mods to turn off more things if they just want a different playstyle.
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May 17 edited 7:07PM
I do ignore them completely. My only interaction with Sims I didn't create and were randomly generated is if I'm buying from them at a food stall or a restaurant. Please, stop assuming that everyone plays like you do.
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Please read my above Post I did not say everyone had to play with progression. So how do you play the game? Do you just play with a few sims and they don't marry or make friends? The Majority I see on youtube and those that like mods play with families and have friends and go exploring.
They marry and have friends but only between sims I created. I play with a lot of households, all of them made by me. I have clubs and host dinner parties, toddler playdates and all of that. Is just that I do it within the sims I created and play with, never with randomly generated townies, I don't even look at their names or care for anything about them.
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