i am going to buy it but i doubt i will be actually going on any jungle adventures with my sims i will buy it for the few new items the game will give but that is about it. and its sad that only a few of the new items in this pack may make it worth buying for me but to be honest that is pretty much how i feel about vampires and even to a degree pets.
If you're not gonna use it, why buy it? I'd save your money for packs you actually enjoy ^^
Some are collectors like myself and even though I may not like a pack there may some elements that may add to the game. Sims is the only series where I will buy all packs even though I may not like a pack or two, outside of the Sims I do not mind missing certain games of an franchise because it does not add to the current version like Sims packs do.
I could easily afford to buy everything myself if I wanted. But for a Sims game I would never do that anyway. The main reason is that we are voting with our wallets when we buy something from EA and this kind of voting is even the only way we can influence the further development of the Sims games because EA doesn’t listen to anything else.
So I would never buy a SP because this would only encourage EA to make even more SPs instead og GPs and EPs. Also I would hesitate to buy GPs or EPs with too little content and again because I don’t want to encourage EA to save even more money by giving the packs even less content.
The other reason why I wouldn’t buy packs with little or unimportant content is that EA is an arrogant company who despises its own customers. This also means that when in doubt I will always buy games from other companies instead of buying an EA game.
Well in Sims 4's case without the sps your games will be missing a lot of good stuff as stuff packs now include premium objects that your game will other wise not have. Like hot tubs, ice cream machine, pop corn popper, void critter and machine, puppet theater, laundry facilities and machines, and tons more as sps are now made of things the devs were not including in gps and eps. So yes I encourage MAXIS (who makes the game - not EA) to make these very reasonable priced packs that gives my game content I would not have. Without sps the game would feel quite empty - I will buy them all and with their very cheap price I can also afford to buy them for any of the other 31 people in my family that also plays the Sims who missed out on any. In fact the way they make them now - I am more encouraged than any previous Sims games to buy all the sps - as 10 bucks to me for one of a kind content filled pack is a bargain - and yes I encourage it big time.
I appreciate good content for my hobby at such a reasonable price in this day and age. Sorry you cannot see it that way - but understandable for people who base the game on past 20 dollar sps that didn't really have a purpose like Sims 4 sps do. In former games they were just stuff and more expensive, no animation, and most likely copies of things also in EPs - but no longer are they expensive or available any other way but through purchasing sps. To me it is a win-win situation - as I don't see 10 bucks as much money at all and I like good deals for the money I spend.
Maybe that is why my game does not feel empty as I own all the packs - while others often say Sims 4 feels empty to them. I find it comfortable and very worth while - to ME in my own opinion.
Just curious though what does this have to do with the GP - Jungle Adventure - which I am also buying. I am especially fond of the gps. I like them better than the eps pretty much.
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In REALITY, I simply exist.....
i am going to buy it but i doubt i will be actually going on any jungle adventures with my sims i will buy it for the few new items the game will give but that is about it. and its sad that only a few of the new items in this pack may make it worth buying for me but to be honest that is pretty much how i feel about vampires and even to a degree pets.
If you're not gonna use it, why buy it? I'd save your money for packs you actually enjoy ^^
Some are collectors like myself and even though I may not like a pack there may some elements that may add to the game. Sims is the only series where I will buy all packs even though I may not like a pack or two, outside of the Sims I do not mind missing certain games of an franchise because it does not add to the current version like Sims packs do.
I could easily afford to buy everything myself if I wanted. But for a Sims game I would never do that anyway. The main reason is that we are voting with our wallets when we buy something from EA and this kind of voting is even the only way we can influence the further development of the Sims games because EA doesn’t listen to anything else.
So I would never buy a SP because this would only encourage EA to make even more SPs instead og GPs and EPs. Also I would hesitate to buy GPs or EPs with too little content and again because I don’t want to encourage EA to save even more money by giving the packs even less content.
The other reason why I wouldn’t buy packs with little or unimportant content is that EA is an arrogant company who despises its own customers. This also means that when in doubt I will always buy games from other companies instead of buying an EA game.
Well in Sims 4's case without the sps your games will be missing a lot of good stuff as stuff packs now include premium objects that your game will other wise not have. Like hot tubs, ice cream machine, pop corn popper, void critter and machine, puppet theater, laundry facilities and machines, and tons more as sps are now made of things the devs were not including in gps and eps. So yes I encourage MAXIS (who makes the game - not EA) to make these very reasonable priced packs that gives my game content I would not have. Without sps the game would feel quite empty - I will buy them all and with their very cheap price I can also afford to buy them for any of the other 31 people in my family that also plays the Sims who missed out on any. In fact the way they make them now - I am more encouraged than any previous Sims games to buy all the sps - as 10 bucks to me for one of a kind content filled pack is a bargain - and yes I encourage it big time.
Is you hire somebody to paint your house do you then really let them just pick the color and the style like they want without interfering?
EA owns Maxis and only makes games like EA’s market experts believe that they have to be made to sell well and EA also does anything to avoid using money on each game unless that money improves the sales numbers enough to be worth it. Maxis only makes the games and doesn’t have those market experts who makes the market analyses. So EA controls everything about how the games must be made - just like you control the colors that your hired painters must give your house and which rooms and walls they have to paint. If they don’t follow your orders then you will likely fire them and refuse to pay the bills - just like EA will fire the developers and close Maxis down if Maxis use more money or design the games different from what EA has told them to do. So don’t get confused just because the developers usually behave like they agree with everything in the way the games and packs are made. They just don’t have any other choice unless they want EA to fire them and maybe sue them for not finishing the game or pack that they had started to make
I appreciate good content for my hobby at such a reasonable price in this day and age. Sorry you cannot see it that way - but understandable for people who base the game on past 20 dollar sps that didn't really have a purpose like Sims 4 sps do. In former games they were just stuff and more expensive, no animation, and most likely copies of things also in EPs - but no longer are they expensive or available any other way but through purchasing sps. To me it is a win-win situation - as I don't see 10 bucks as much money at all and I like good deals for the money I spend.
Maybe that is why my game does not feel empty as I own all the packs - while others often say Sims 4 feels empty to them. I find it comfortable and very worth while - to ME in my own opinion.
Just curious though what does this have to do with the GP - Jungle Adventure - which I am also buying. I am especially fond of the gps. I like them better than the eps pretty much.
I only commented on the idea about just buying everything no matter if you like it or not. If people do that I would guess that they do it because they think that they are supporting the game series that way. But in reality they just support that the game is developed in directions that they don’t even like.
I would buy this GP if I still played the game or wanted to give TS4 another chance. But I don’t have the time right now.
The SPs are on the other hand something that I never would buy because they aren’t worth much for me and because I just don’t want to support EA’s idea about replacing the EPs with mainly SPs instead!
Looked through the thread about how it doesn't look like outdoor retreat, but thought this would be better posted here.
The main reason actually why I'm not going to buy it is because it doesn't look like outdoor retreat;
- Granite Falls is the sort of place my sims would go, but I can't picture any of them visiting a jungle.
Other reasons include;
- Not only my sims, but I myself am not interested in the location either
- I have no interest in the new skills or activities
- I really HATE skeletons (that's a big reason)
- There's too much danger; dangerous animals, insects, curses etc; I personally don't like danger in my game (I'm actually scared of the lint traps in the tumble dryers)
- Apart from vampires and magic I prefer normal, mundane, everyday gameplay; this pack is too much action-adventure/Indiana Jones for my tastes. It might sound mad to some people, but if you took out the dangerous stuff and couldn't go in to any temples/ruins (where more danger is) I might have considered it
I'm really happy for everyone who's getting it though; it's so nice to see everyone so excited!
I changed my mind, I'm not buying it. Least not during initial release. I can't buy anything further if my game is already missing assets from previous packs I bought; I'm missing CAS items from the latest patch and refuse to play my game any further until I at least get them back.
Man - so want this to come out now. Amazing gp!!! Loved both live streams - so much to do and so much fun to be had. I knew I liked the idea and wanted it - but man - now I can't wait.... but alas I must as it won't be out til Tuesday. Best pack yet - better than the eps so far - even. SO excited.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....
Plum, the BB objects were too good. I may still buy it on initial release after all. BUT, it'll be on a brand new save with brand new Sims, wearing all those new CAS items. I have just the couple in mind already...
I'm back to a maybe, I felt the temple lacked atmosphere and thought the puzzles were a bit dull if I'm honest. Seemed to be luck more than anything else at play.
i am going to buy it but i doubt i will be actually going on any jungle adventures with my sims i will buy it for the few new items the game will give but that is about it. and its sad that only a few of the new items in this pack may make it worth buying for me but to be honest that is pretty much how i feel about vampires and even to a degree pets.
If you're not gonna use it, why buy it? I'd save your money for packs you actually enjoy ^^
Some are collectors like myself and even though I may not like a pack there may some elements that may add to the game. Sims is the only series where I will buy all packs even though I may not like a pack or two, outside of the Sims I do not mind missing certain games of an franchise because it does not add to the current version like Sims packs do.
I could easily afford to buy everything myself if I wanted. But for a Sims game I would never do that anyway. The main reason is that we are voting with our wallets when we buy something from EA and this kind of voting is even the only way we can influence the further development of the Sims games because EA doesn’t listen to anything else.
So I would never buy a SP because this would only encourage EA to make even more SPs instead og GPs and EPs. Also I would hesitate to buy GPs or EPs with too little content and again because I don’t want to encourage EA to save even more money by giving the packs even less content.
The other reason why I wouldn’t buy packs with little or unimportant content is that EA is an arrogant company who despises its own customers. This also means that when in doubt I will always buy games from other companies instead of buying an EA game.
There are other possibilities other than EA "despising" its own customers. One is that animators are ridiculously overpaid compared to the rest of us, AND can demand a huge fat benefit package AND a pension. (By comparison, I just finally got paid this year the minimum wage in a city in my area for being the bookkeeper, payroll specialist, and tax specialist for a small business, AND several of its clients, and I have no benefits or PTO other than what is mandated by law. Moreover, my hours get cut every year at the end of the tax season. I'd find a better job, but I am too old for many employers to consider me "hireable" although I am still at least 15 years away from retirement age, and I am not physically fit enough to do several other types of jobs.) I am guessing that they probably get paid at least double what I do, or have a year-round salary. Another is that 3D graphics designers are difficult to find in the area where EA develops the Sims. A third possibility is that EA's tech support people are so poorly paid AND poorly treated that they hate the fact that they have to work for such low wages just to survive, and they take it out on the customers (kind of like service at a Wal-Mart or McDonalds).
I have been playing The Sims since 2001, when Livin Large came out. My avatar deliberately looks like Chris Roomies from TS1.
i am going to buy it but i doubt i will be actually going on any jungle adventures with my sims i will buy it for the few new items the game will give but that is about it. and its sad that only a few of the new items in this pack may make it worth buying for me but to be honest that is pretty much how i feel about vampires and even to a degree pets.
If you're not gonna use it, why buy it? I'd save your money for packs you actually enjoy ^^
Some are collectors like myself and even though I may not like a pack there may some elements that may add to the game. Sims is the only series where I will buy all packs even though I may not like a pack or two, outside of the Sims I do not mind missing certain games of an franchise because it does not add to the current version like Sims packs do.
I could easily afford to buy everything myself if I wanted. But for a Sims game I would never do that anyway. The main reason is that we are voting with our wallets when we buy something from EA and this kind of voting is even the only way we can influence the further development of the Sims games because EA doesn’t listen to anything else.
So I would never buy a SP because this would only encourage EA to make even more SPs instead og GPs and EPs. Also I would hesitate to buy GPs or EPs with too little content and again because I don’t want to encourage EA to save even more money by giving the packs even less content.
The other reason why I wouldn’t buy packs with little or unimportant content is that EA is an arrogant company who despises its own customers. This also means that when in doubt I will always buy games from other companies instead of buying an EA game.
There are other possibilities other than EA "despising" its own customers. One is that animators are ridiculously overpaid compared to the rest of us, AND can demand a huge fat benefit package AND a pension. (By comparison, I just finally got paid this year the minimum wage in a city in my area for being the bookkeeper, payroll specialist, and tax specialist for a small business, AND several of its clients, and I have no benefits or PTO other than what is mandated by law. Moreover, my hours get cut every year at the end of the tax season. I'd find a better job, but I am too old for many employers to consider me "hireable" although I am still at least 15 years away from retirement age, and I am not physically fit enough to do several other types of jobs.) I am guessing that they probably get paid at least double what I do, or have a year-round salary. Another is that 3D graphics designers are difficult to find in the area where EA develops the Sims. A third possibility is that EA's tech support people are so poorly paid AND poorly treated that they hate the fact that they have to work for such low wages just to survive, and they take it out on the customers (kind of like service at a Wal-Mart or McDonalds).
The problem inside EA isn’t the developers but EA’s management. This is said by a lot of both earlier and former developers and other employees in EA. EA is a money grabbing company that mainly just try to get as much money as possible from a lot of wellknown and good selling game series. So EA cuts expences by reducing the time that the developers can use on making the games and pushes the developers to make as many new things for the same game series as possible and as fast as possible.
So EA only cares about money and not at all about its customers. They buy other game companies to get their well selling game series. Then they use those established game series as an easy way to get more money. When the series doesn’t sell well anymore then EA usually just closes the studio who made it and buy another game company instead.
Developers in EA have benefits - but no job security - and they also have to accept a lot of overtime when EA pushes them to finish the games faster than the games can be in a reasonable way.
Please, never blame on developers. In any game. It is always the "big fishes" in the company (management) who makes these desisions. I am not sure if selling Maxis to EA was a good move. But I get that in that time it was necessary.
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Please, never blame on developers. In any game. It is always the "big fishes" in the company (management) who makes these desisions. I am not sure if selling Maxis to EA was a good move. But I get that in that time it was necessary.
I don’t think that it was a good move because in retrospective it was neither profitable nor necessary. But the problem at the time was that Maxis had had a few disappointing games that didn’t sell well. So Maxis had to be careful not to go bankrupt and nobody at the time knew if TS1 would just become another financial disaster.
Also EA didn’t buy Maxis because of TS1 which EA likely only accepted to develop because it was a part of the agreement when EA bought Maxis. What EA wanted was the rights to make more SimCity games and they got Maxis quite cheaply.
I don’t believe that Jeff Braun and Will Wright would have considered selling Maxis to EA at all if only they had known how big a succes TS1 was going to be. But they took the safe money because Maxis most likely couldn’t have survived on its own anyway if TS1 instead had become just another economical failure. Then Maxis would likely just have gone bankrupt. But seen with our current knowledge selling Maxis to EA sure was a very bad decision for them to make and it cost them a gigantic amount of money because Maxis would have become many times more worth just a couple of years later.
> @Strawburry3 said: > I didn’t like WA in S3, so if I do buy it I don’t imagine myself visiting the destination more than once. I’m mostly interested in CAS and B/B. xD Trying to justify $20 for just that though.
I'm back to a maybe, I felt the temple lacked atmosphere and thought the puzzles were a bit dull if I'm honest. Seemed to be luck more than anything else at play.
Exactly my thoughts.
Add to that, I almost rage-quit the video when one of those skeletons saw those interlopers in his masters' temple, then kindly went on his merry way. Because, like, it's day time. I guess that he'll come back and oust them later. But nope, they're already gone.
I'm back to a maybe, I felt the temple lacked atmosphere and thought the puzzles were a bit dull if I'm honest. Seemed to be luck more than anything else at play.
Exactly my thoughts.
As usual build/buy, CAS, and the world were more of a consideration than the game play. The temple was mostly Sims just tapping away at relics on the table, talking to the statue, or writing something down so that the game could solve the puzzle for you -- much like the veterinary career.
The Temple was hyped so much and, even though I'm not an explore-the-ruins type of player, I was waiting to see what all the excitement for The Temple was about. There wasn't much. Things were so much more...physical...in WA. This time, it's more academic, I guess.
If there's ever a university expansion, There should be an archeology major so that final-year students can go on expeditions. That's more the feel that I get from the temple portion, not Indiana Jones.
Yes exactly. In all the games I play that have Tomb/mine/exploration it involves puzzles that involve the player more. Things like making your character move objects to certain locations, searching for objects that work with other objects and making the character physically move about. In WA your sim has to dig through rock piles. It’s never a case of just stand there and let the game work it out for you and present you with various outcomes.
The “puzzles” demonstrated last night were either incredibly coincidental good luck because the sims had archaeological skill but were just a case of “go here, interact with this, wait a few moments for the game to give you set outcomes, pick one, if it’s not right try another”
Now I know the temple resets but if they are all like that I will be disappointed.
Yes exactly. In all the games I play that have Tomb/mine/exploration it involves puzzles that involve the player more. Things like making your character move objects to certain locations, searching for objects that work with other objects and making the character physically move about. In WA your sim has to dig through rock piles. It’s never a case of just stand there and let the game work it out for you and present you with various outcomes.
The “puzzles” demonstrated last night were either incredibly coincidental good luck because the sims had archaeological skill but were just a case of “go here, interact with this, wait a few moments for the game to give you set outcomes, pick one, if it’s not right try another”
Now I know the temple resets but if they are all like that I will be disappointed.
Yup. I changed my post in order to really go into detail about what I saw. It turned into a danged review and it wasn't positive. I ended up deleting all of that because, why? It doesn't matter anyway. After years of explaining to the developers, ad nauseam, what we're looking for in these games, players like me continuously end up disappointed. Writing about it is just a waste of time at this point.
I think I will. I watched the live stream last night and I thought it looked good. I’m not sure whether to buy it next week or wait a few months for a sale though. It was my birthday last week so maybe I’ll buy it as a present to myself.
> @Strawburry3 said:
> I didn’t like WA in S3, so if I do buy it I don’t imagine myself visiting the destination more than once. I’m mostly interested in CAS and B/B. xD Trying to justify $20 for just that though.
the temples change......
There are 5 layouts, WA had up to 25 (maybe more, not less, and the ability to create more and share with other simmers), so if WA didn’t do it for you this GP won’t either. Treasures reset in Sims 3 as well by the way (it being a spawning system) and opening a sarcophagus can have different outcomes.
What disappoints me is that everything seems choice/coincidence based (it feels like a slot machine, I’ve never seen the charm of slot machines) and not puzzle based. “This time it was the tree, next time it may be the sun. Or the leaves.” Mjah.. And the traps I saw were clearly there. Like, I liked the gas trap (hope there really is a consequence attached to it comparable to the mummy curse) but it seemed like the only way to step into it is by instructing your sim to (“Hey, see that trap there? Get in.”) Not accidently, not hidden (hope there are and they just didn’t show it). And what was the point of that bobbing skeleton passing by and disappearing apparently?
That being said, I have decided to buy it nonetheless. It doesn’t have to ‘beat’ WA for me or anything, I just want something in the game to have fun with and I think I will.
There are 5 layouts, WA had up to 25 (maybe more, not less, and the ability to create more and share with other simmers), so if WA didn’t do it for you this GP won’t either. Treasures reset in Sims 3 as well by the way (it being a spawning system) and opening a sarcophagus can have different outcomes.
Again, I didn’t get WA for the adventure and temple exploring. I got it because I loved the CAS and new B/B. Not to mention the new skills were exactly what I wanted. The number of layouts isn’t important to me because chances are I’ll do this once (maybe) and never go back - - unless it pertains to a story. It’s just not the kind of simmer I am.
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Well in Sims 4's case without the sps your games will be missing a lot of good stuff as stuff packs now include premium objects that your game will other wise not have. Like hot tubs, ice cream machine, pop corn popper, void critter and machine, puppet theater, laundry facilities and machines, and tons more as sps are now made of things the devs were not including in gps and eps. So yes I encourage MAXIS (who makes the game - not EA) to make these very reasonable priced packs that gives my game content I would not have. Without sps the game would feel quite empty - I will buy them all and with their very cheap price I can also afford to buy them for any of the other 31 people in my family that also plays the Sims who missed out on any. In fact the way they make them now - I am more encouraged than any previous Sims games to buy all the sps - as 10 bucks to me for one of a kind content filled pack is a bargain - and yes I encourage it big time.
I appreciate good content for my hobby at such a reasonable price in this day and age. Sorry you cannot see it that way - but understandable for people who base the game on past 20 dollar sps that didn't really have a purpose like Sims 4 sps do. In former games they were just stuff and more expensive, no animation, and most likely copies of things also in EPs - but no longer are they expensive or available any other way but through purchasing sps. To me it is a win-win situation - as I don't see 10 bucks as much money at all and I like good deals for the money I spend.
Maybe that is why my game does not feel empty as I own all the packs - while others often say Sims 4 feels empty to them. I find it comfortable and very worth while - to ME in my own opinion.
Just curious though what does this have to do with the GP - Jungle Adventure - which I am also buying. I am especially fond of the gps. I like them better than the eps pretty much.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....
EA owns Maxis and only makes games like EA’s market experts believe that they have to be made to sell well and EA also does anything to avoid using money on each game unless that money improves the sales numbers enough to be worth it. Maxis only makes the games and doesn’t have those market experts who makes the market analyses. So EA controls everything about how the games must be made - just like you control the colors that your hired painters must give your house and which rooms and walls they have to paint. If they don’t follow your orders then you will likely fire them and refuse to pay the bills - just like EA will fire the developers and close Maxis down if Maxis use more money or design the games different from what EA has told them to do. So don’t get confused just because the developers usually behave like they agree with everything in the way the games and packs are made. They just don’t have any other choice unless they want EA to fire them and maybe sue them for not finishing the game or pack that they had started to make
I only commented on the idea about just buying everything no matter if you like it or not. If people do that I would guess that they do it because they think that they are supporting the game series that way. But in reality they just support that the game is developed in directions that they don’t even like.
I would buy this GP if I still played the game or wanted to give TS4 another chance. But I don’t have the time right now.
The SPs are on the other hand something that I never would buy because they aren’t worth much for me and because I just don’t want to support EA’s idea about replacing the EPs with mainly SPs instead!
The main reason actually why I'm not going to buy it is because it doesn't look like outdoor retreat;
- Granite Falls is the sort of place my sims would go, but I can't picture any of them visiting a jungle.
Other reasons include;
- Not only my sims, but I myself am not interested in the location either
- I have no interest in the new skills or activities
- I really HATE skeletons (that's a big reason)
- There's too much danger; dangerous animals, insects, curses etc; I personally don't like danger in my game (I'm actually scared of the lint traps in the tumble dryers)
- Apart from vampires and magic I prefer normal, mundane, everyday gameplay; this pack is too much action-adventure/Indiana Jones for my tastes. It might sound mad to some people, but if you took out the dangerous stuff and couldn't go in to any temples/ruins (where more danger is) I might have considered it
I'm really happy for everyone who's getting it though; it's so nice to see everyone so excited!
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....
There are other possibilities other than EA "despising" its own customers. One is that animators are ridiculously overpaid compared to the rest of us, AND can demand a huge fat benefit package AND a pension. (By comparison, I just finally got paid this year the minimum wage in a city in my area for being the bookkeeper, payroll specialist, and tax specialist for a small business, AND several of its clients, and I have no benefits or PTO other than what is mandated by law. Moreover, my hours get cut every year at the end of the tax season. I'd find a better job, but I am too old for many employers to consider me "hireable" although I am still at least 15 years away from retirement age, and I am not physically fit enough to do several other types of jobs.) I am guessing that they probably get paid at least double what I do, or have a year-round salary. Another is that 3D graphics designers are difficult to find in the area where EA develops the Sims. A third possibility is that EA's tech support people are so poorly paid AND poorly treated that they hate the fact that they have to work for such low wages just to survive, and they take it out on the customers (kind of like service at a Wal-Mart or McDonalds).
So EA only cares about money and not at all about its customers. They buy other game companies to get their well selling game series. Then they use those established game series as an easy way to get more money. When the series doesn’t sell well anymore then EA usually just closes the studio who made it and buy another game company instead.
Developers in EA have benefits - but no job security - and they also have to accept a lot of overtime when EA pushes them to finish the games faster than the games can be in a reasonable way.
My build previews on this site HERE.
of course I'm buying it
Also EA didn’t buy Maxis because of TS1 which EA likely only accepted to develop because it was a part of the agreement when EA bought Maxis. What EA wanted was the rights to make more SimCity games and they got Maxis quite cheaply.
I don’t believe that Jeff Braun and Will Wright would have considered selling Maxis to EA at all if only they had known how big a succes TS1 was going to be. But they took the safe money because Maxis most likely couldn’t have survived on its own anyway if TS1 instead had become just another economical failure. Then Maxis would likely just have gone bankrupt. But seen with our current knowledge selling Maxis to EA sure was a very bad decision for them to make and it cost them a gigantic amount of money because Maxis would have become many times more worth just a couple of years later.
> I didn’t like WA in S3, so if I do buy it I don’t imagine myself visiting the destination more than once. I’m mostly interested in CAS and B/B. xD Trying to justify $20 for just that though.
the temples change......
Exactly my thoughts.
Add to that, I almost rage-quit the video when one of those skeletons saw those interlopers in his masters' temple, then kindly went on his merry way. Because, like, it's day time. I guess that he'll come back and oust them later. But nope, they're already gone.
Admittedly, there wasn't much to take, but dang!
Yes exactly. In all the games I play that have Tomb/mine/exploration it involves puzzles that involve the player more. Things like making your character move objects to certain locations, searching for objects that work with other objects and making the character physically move about. In WA your sim has to dig through rock piles. It’s never a case of just stand there and let the game work it out for you and present you with various outcomes.
The “puzzles” demonstrated last night were either incredibly coincidental good luck because the sims had archaeological skill but were just a case of “go here, interact with this, wait a few moments for the game to give you set outcomes, pick one, if it’s not right try another”
Now I know the temple resets but if they are all like that I will be disappointed.
Yup. I changed my post in order to really go into detail about what I saw. It turned into a danged review and it wasn't positive. I ended up deleting all of that because, why? It doesn't matter anyway. After years of explaining to the developers, ad nauseam, what we're looking for in these games, players like me continuously end up disappointed. Writing about it is just a waste of time at this point.
I wish Archaeology was a new career though.
What disappoints me is that everything seems choice/coincidence based (it feels like a slot machine, I’ve never seen the charm of slot machines) and not puzzle based. “This time it was the tree, next time it may be the sun. Or the leaves.” Mjah.. And the traps I saw were clearly there. Like, I liked the gas trap (hope there really is a consequence attached to it comparable to the mummy curse) but it seemed like the only way to step into it is by instructing your sim to (“Hey, see that trap there? Get in.”) Not accidently, not hidden (hope there are and they just didn’t show it). And what was the point of that bobbing skeleton passing by and disappearing apparently?
That being said, I have decided to buy it nonetheless. It doesn’t have to ‘beat’ WA for me or anything, I just want something in the game to have fun with and I think I will.
I understand that, but when I think of Sims solving puzzles just isn’t what I want. It’s too structured, not enough free range for my tastes. :P
Again, I didn’t get WA for the adventure and temple exploring. I got it because I loved the CAS and new B/B. Not to mention the new skills were exactly what I wanted. The number of layouts isn’t important to me because chances are I’ll do this once (maybe) and never go back - - unless it pertains to a story. It’s just not the kind of simmer I am.
Hey, Nana..