I mean, I guess I get why Erik always feels so much pressure to be the best, and I mean, it has to be hard given his experiences as a kid as well as his mom's experiences in dealing with grief/trauama, but that said...
I'm waiting for Katie to come back. I hope she's dating Devin.
I'm waiting for Katie to come back. I hope she's dating Devin.
This made me laugh so much. I’m not sure why....maybe because I ship(ped) Devin and Harper so hard. Plus they all hated Katie. So that seems impossible. But given his new hipster lifestyle, hmmmm. If that happened Harper would ask Erik for a snort. It would be the end of her. If she is pregnant, that might be the end too.
I wouldn't say I'm a fan, necessarily (but I'll take it) - but more that I like how (so far) she's been an agent of chaos, changing the narrative whenever she's around (getting Zayne and Hope to fight, bringing out the protective side of Rylie and Devin, doing who knows what in the future) - but also I want to know what made her the way she is, because I'm sure she has a reason for behaving that way (and it could be just as tragic as Erik's story, with or without the drugs, we don't know yet) and it'll be nice to see how time has changed her.
Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say is that Katie reminds me of all the best soap opera characters we love to hate - Beth, Liz, Alexis, That 🐸🐸🐸🐸 Téa Delgado, etc. etc. etc. - obviously we don't like them, but it's always fun to see how far they go to get what they want, and it's nice to see people not held back by conventional methods of "right" and "wrong" (which, come to think of it, makes her a lot like Harper and how she justifies her stealing as a way to help her boyfriend - and maybe they're the antagonists of each other's lives).
@MsMarvel98 Wow 400 chapters in three days! I'm impressed! I also read through D2D and A2A straight through to catch up but not nearly as fast as you. You must be a speed reader!
So Erik's brother isn't with his wife anymore. So sad. I don't think Harper is pregnant like everyone is thinking. I just think she is super stressed out about the bills and taking care of Erik. Although I could be wrong, only you really know.
Erik's mother is so hard on her boys no wonder they feel inadequate. I wonder about her life and what may have happened to her to make her so cold and hard on her boys.
Awhile ago I said that Erik and Harper could end up homeless and I think if things continue the way they are it could really be possible. I hope I am very wrong about this and that they will get help!
It was nice to hear form Erik and see his family. Great chapter as always!
@MsMarvel98 Wow 400 chapters in three days! I'm impressed! I also read through D2D and A2A straight through to catch up but not nearly as fast as you. You must be a speed reader!
So Erik's brother isn't with his wife anymore. So sad. I don't think Harper is pregnant like everyone is thinking. I just think she is super stressed out about the bills and taking care of Erik. Although I could be wrong, only you really know.
Erik's mother is so hard on her boys no wonder they feel inadequate. I wonder about her life and what may have happened to her to make her so cold and hard on her boys.
Awhile ago I said that Erik and Harper could end up homeless and I think if things continue the way they are it could really be possible. I hope I am very wrong about this and that they will get help!
It was nice to hear form Erik and see his family. Great chapter as always!
I'm thinking Christine really wants them to be successful, and most of all, doesn't want them to turn out like their dad.
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@haswh I think @RL pretty much has it in terms of Christine. Her ex was a deadbeat alcoholic and she is hyper-focused on making sure her sons turn out better than he did. That being said, you're right that she is very hard on them. She's not a warm mother at all, and the tough love she's giving might actually be doing more harm than good...
Hopefully homelessness is not in Harik's future! But it's definitely not outside the realm of possibility... :-/
I've just realised who Katie is. I'm a bit slow. She's probably much nicer now. @AudreyFld it's not beyond the realms of possibility that she could be dating one of the group. School bullies don't always remain bullies in later life, and some can remarkably change in character. I gather it has also been a while since they all graduated from high school.
Poor Erik, I can't help but feel sorry for him, but I also get where his mother's coming from, although as @CitizenErased14 said, her tough love isn't helping. Furthermore, it's not healthy the amount of stress Harper is under, which is why I wonder if we are going to encounter a breakup down the road?
Unfortunately, I have an inkling Harper's pregnant, which is a scary thought considering the circumstances.
@rednenemon and @simscognito I love your thoughts that Katie may have changed... we can hope!
And yeah, Erik's mother is a very complicated woman. I do feel for her too, because it can't be easy to feel like she's failed as a mother (which is most definitely how she's feeling! ) But it's also so hard for Harper and Erik too...
So true that Katie could have changed. And Devin isn’t around and Harper is with Erik, so if they happened to hook up at an art show they might actually get together...
I knew this would happen! And that's all Erik needs. Now he'll have a cutie pie mouth to feed and added stress to get clean but he won't be able to and...ugh. This does not look good for our happy, dysfunctional couple.
I was glad to see that his mom does love him, but has high expectations out of her used-to-be-high-achieving son. And I can tell why he wants to curl up in a ball and hide out from his responsibilites. I am hoping the nooboo will be the reason that ultimately helps him into sobriety, but something tells me this arc has a long way to go before that's a possibility. Oh noooo!!
I'm waiting for Katie to come back. I hope she's dating Devin.
This made me laugh so much. I’m not sure why....maybe because I ship(ped) Devin and Harper so hard. Plus they all hated Katie. So that seems impossible. But given his new hipster lifestyle, hmmmm. If that happened Harper would ask Erik for a snort. It would be the end of her. If she is pregnant, that might be the end too.
No f-ing way is Devin dating Katie. She was so cruel to Harper and he loved her (I bet he still loves her), so he would never do that to Harper. I don't care how much this f-ing b---- has changed. (Can you tell I feel strongly about that? LOL! )
@pammiechick I am cracking up at how excited this comment is If all these pregnancy theories are true, it would definitely be a huge game changer for these two!
@pammiechick I am cracking up at how excited this comment is If all these pregnancy theories are true, it would definitely be a huge game changer for these two!
And aw, you aren't a Katvin shipper? Hehehe
Boo for Katvin! If Devin would have been a better kisser, then maybe Harper would be all happy now instead of where she is...?. Of course this is A2A and that wouldn’t happen. But hopefully Devin is still single...cause if Harper is pregnant, she better be single too soon. But I have a feeling she’s gonna pin all her hopes that Erik will get clean on that baby - if there is one...
@pammiechick I am cracking up at how excited this comment is If all these pregnancy theories are true, it would definitely be a huge game changer for these two!
@pammiechick I am cracking up at how excited this comment is If all these pregnancy theories are true, it would definitely be a huge game changer for these two!
And aw, you aren't a Katvin shipper? Hehehe
Boo for Katvin! If Devin would have been a better kisser, then maybe Harper would be all happy now instead of where she is...?. Of course this is A2A and that wouldn’t happen. But hopefully Devin is still single...cause if Harper is pregnant, she better be single too soon. But I have a feeling she’s gonna pin all her hopes that Erik will get clean on that baby - if there is one...
YES! #saynotoKatvin
I know. Dumb Devin for not kissing properly (or for not being older and cooler because we all know Harper wanted to choose the most rebellious guy and that was not Dev.)
We can dream about Harvin (even though our ship is lost at sea ) For sure (well, I think) Erik will be in Harper's life for good. He's the love of her life! Right? Unless he overdoses. So sad. But I'm hopeful this baby (if she's preggers--she could just be sick), will be a wake up call to Erik.
@pammiechick I am cracking up at how excited this comment is If all these pregnancy theories are true, it would definitely be a huge game changer for these two!
And aw, you aren't a Katvin shipper? Hehehe
Boo for Katvin! If Devin would have been a better kisser, then maybe Harper would be all happy now instead of where she is...?. Of course this is A2A and that wouldn’t happen. But hopefully Devin is still single...cause if Harper is pregnant, she better be single too soon. But I have a feeling she’s gonna pin all her hopes that Erik will get clean on that baby - if there is one...
YES! #saynotoKatvin
I know. Dumb Devin for not kissing properly (or for not being older and cooler because we all know Harper wanted to choose the most rebellious guy and that was not Dev.)
We can dream about Harvin (even though our ship is lost at sea ) For sure (well, I think) Erik will be in Harper's life for good. He's the love of her life! Right? Unless he overdoses. So sad. But I'm hopeful this baby (if she's preggers--she could just be sick), will be a wake up call to Erik.
@pammiechick I don't know if Erik's going to be in Harper's life forever. He may be the love of her life, but that doesn't mean he remains that way. He certainly wants to be in her life, Harper certainly wants him her life, but I have a sneaking suspicion this love is going to end in either a breakup or an overdose, leading to death. After all, we haven't fully explored the idea of 'love isn't always enough' yet, which I think is what this arc might be exploring, in response to Hope and Zayne.
@pammiechick I am cracking up at how excited this comment is If all these pregnancy theories are true, it would definitely be a huge game changer for these two!
And aw, you aren't a Katvin shipper? Hehehe
Boo for Katvin! If Devin would have been a better kisser, then maybe Harper would be all happy now instead of where she is...?. Of course this is A2A and that wouldn’t happen. But hopefully Devin is still single...cause if Harper is pregnant, she better be single too soon. But I have a feeling she’s gonna pin all her hopes that Erik will get clean on that baby - if there is one...
YES! #saynotoKatvin
I know. Dumb Devin for not kissing properly (or for not being older and cooler because we all know Harper wanted to choose the most rebellious guy and that was not Dev.)
We can dream about Harvin (even though our ship is lost at sea ) For sure (well, I think) Erik will be in Harper's life for good. He's the love of her life! Right? Unless he overdoses. So sad. But I'm hopeful this baby (if she's preggers--she could just be sick), will be a wake up call to Erik.
@pammiechick I don't know if Erik's going to be in Harper's life forever. He may be the love of her life, but that doesn't mean he remains that way. He certainly wants to be in her life, Harper certainly wants him her life, but I have a sneaking suspicion this love is going to end in either a breakup or an overdose, leading to death. After all, we haven't fully explored the idea of 'love isn't always enough' yet, which I think is what this arc might be exploring, in response to Hope and Zayne.
Hmm...this is very insightful. You could be right. Hope and Zayne had love but look what it brought. Too much love is like living on sugar. Unhealthy. And it does look like love isn't enough. At least right now!
Part of me really hopes that Harper isn't pregnant and that she is just sick. Where they both are at isn't a great place to be to raise a child. I am worried if something does happen to Erik. If he overdoses and dies or breaks up with Harper that would not be good. It feels like Harper built her life around Erik and if he leaves she would be devastated. If they did have a child and Erik ends up out of the picture in one way or another I don't think Harper is mature enough to handle a child on her own. Meeting Erik's family was interesting. I am not sure how to feel about Erik's mom. Danny seems very nice.
@SpectresValkyrie These two definitely aren't in a good place to raise a kid, you're right! It would be a huge gamechanger. So hopefully this is a theory that doesn't come true!
Honestly, being unsure what to think of Christine is more or less what I was expecting haha. She's... a difficult and complicated woman. And despite what Erik might think, she DOES love him. And she wants waht's best for him. But she is also a very cold and somewhat harsh woman too. I think the way she's going about the situation with Erik might not be exactly what he needs...
Maybe Harper and Katie will wind up together? If Harper is pregnant, and he dies, maybe it's a Death Becomes Her situation where they've all been abandoned by their families and they only have each other to rely on to get by (I could go Kate and Ally or Laverne and Shirley, but I've chosen not to) and then they fall in love.
Probably not (I'm still on the Katie and Devin bandwagon - hopefully Devin has moved on from Harper, its been years), but that would be a nice twist to wrap this all up in - biggest enemies to best friends. It could happen!
If harper is pregnant I wouldn't be surprise if her parents take custody of the child. I heard true stories of parents of the addict taking custody of the addict's kid permanently until they are clean.
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I have a feeling Harper is definitely pregnant, which will probably go one of two ways - Eric gets his 🐸🐸🐸🐸 together, and Harik can live on, or, Erik dies/continues being addicted and Harper is left alone with the baby. THEN hopefully Devin, who is hopefully still single, will enter the picture again, and he can patch things up with Harper and they will end up together. I am happy with either option ?
But in saying that, I really am liking Erik's character, probably because now we've seen his upbringing and there's more depth to him than just his addiction. He has a lot of potential for development, and if he does recover from his addiction and raises a child with Harper, it would be very interesting to explore how this will impact his relationship with his mother (who's own backstory is probably quite interesting). Also, Erik is cuter than Devin ? As somebody said before, Erik was such a cute toddler, and I really want to see those genes passed on!
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I'm waiting for Katie to come back. I hope she's dating Devin.
This made me laugh so much. I’m not sure why....maybe because I ship(ped) Devin and Harper so hard. Plus they all hated Katie. So that seems impossible. But given his new hipster lifestyle, hmmmm. If that happened Harper would ask Erik for a snort. It would be the end of her. If she is pregnant, that might be the end too.
I am laughing along with @AudreyFld at the Devin suggestion! But then again, anything's possible...
Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say is that Katie reminds me of all the best soap opera characters we love to hate - Beth, Liz, Alexis, That 🐸🐸🐸🐸 Téa Delgado, etc. etc. etc. - obviously we don't like them, but it's always fun to see how far they go to get what they want, and it's nice to see people not held back by conventional methods of "right" and "wrong" (which, come to think of it, makes her a lot like Harper and how she justifies her stealing as a way to help her boyfriend - and maybe they're the antagonists of each other's lives).
So Erik's brother isn't with his wife anymore. So sad. I don't think Harper is pregnant like everyone is thinking. I just think she is super stressed out about the bills and taking care of Erik. Although I could be wrong, only you really know.
Erik's mother is so hard on her boys no wonder they feel inadequate. I wonder about her life and what may have happened to her to make her so cold and hard on her boys.
Awhile ago I said that Erik and Harper could end up homeless and I think if things continue the way they are it could really be possible. I hope I am very wrong about this and that they will get help!
It was nice to hear form Erik and see his family. Great chapter as always!
I'm thinking Christine really wants them to be successful, and most of all, doesn't want them to turn out like their dad.
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@haswh I think @RL pretty much has it in terms of Christine. Her ex was a deadbeat alcoholic and she is hyper-focused on making sure her sons turn out better than he did. That being said, you're right that she is very hard on them. She's not a warm mother at all, and the tough love she's giving might actually be doing more harm than good...
Hopefully homelessness is not in Harik's future! But it's definitely not outside the realm of possibility... :-/
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Poor Erik, I can't help but feel sorry for him, but I also get where his mother's coming from, although as @CitizenErased14 said, her tough love isn't helping. Furthermore, it's not healthy the amount of stress Harper is under, which is why I wonder if we are going to encounter a breakup down the road?
Unfortunately, I have an inkling Harper's pregnant, which is a scary thought considering the circumstances.
And yeah, Erik's mother is a very complicated woman. I do feel for her too, because it can't be easy to feel like she's failed as a mother (which is most definitely how she's feeling! ) But it's also so hard for Harper and Erik too...
I knew this would happen! And that's all Erik needs. Now he'll have a cutie pie mouth to feed and added stress to get clean but he won't be able to and...ugh. This does not look good for our happy, dysfunctional couple.
I was glad to see that his mom does love him, but has high expectations out of her used-to-be-high-achieving son. And I can tell why he wants to curl up in a ball and hide out from his responsibilites. I am hoping the nooboo will be the reason that ultimately helps him into sobriety, but something tells me this arc has a long way to go before that's a possibility. Oh noooo!!
No f-ing way is Devin dating Katie. She was so cruel to Harper and he loved her (I bet he still loves her), so he would never do that to Harper. I don't care how much this f-ing b---- has changed. (Can you tell I feel strongly about that? LOL! )
And aw, you aren't a Katvin shipper? Hehehe
Boo for Katvin! If Devin would have been a better kisser, then maybe Harper would be all happy now instead of where she is...?. Of course this is A2A and that wouldn’t happen. But hopefully Devin is still single...cause if Harper is pregnant, she better be single too soon. But I have a feeling she’s gonna pin all her hopes that Erik will get clean on that baby - if there is one...
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YES! #saynotoKatvin
I know. Dumb Devin for not kissing properly (or for not being older and cooler because we all know Harper wanted to choose the most rebellious guy and that was not Dev.)
We can dream about Harvin (even though our ship is lost at sea ) For sure (well, I think) Erik will be in Harper's life for good. He's the love of her life! Right? Unless he overdoses. So sad. But I'm hopeful this baby (if she's preggers--she could just be sick), will be a wake up call to Erik.
@pammiechick I don't know if Erik's going to be in Harper's life forever. He may be the love of her life, but that doesn't mean he remains that way. He certainly wants to be in her life, Harper certainly wants him her life, but I have a sneaking suspicion this love is going to end in either a breakup or an overdose, leading to death. After all, we haven't fully explored the idea of 'love isn't always enough' yet, which I think is what this arc might be exploring, in response to Hope and Zayne.
Hmm...this is very insightful. You could be right. Hope and Zayne had love but look what it brought. Too much love is like living on sugar. Unhealthy. And it does look like love isn't enough. At least right now!
@SpectresValkyrie These two definitely aren't in a good place to raise a kid, you're right! It would be a huge gamechanger. So hopefully this is a theory that doesn't come true!
Honestly, being unsure what to think of Christine is more or less what I was expecting haha. She's... a difficult and complicated woman. And despite what Erik might think, she DOES love him. And she wants waht's best for him. But she is also a very cold and somewhat harsh woman too. I think the way she's going about the situation with Erik might not be exactly what he needs...
Probably not (I'm still on the Katie and Devin bandwagon - hopefully Devin has moved on from Harper, its been years), but that would be a nice twist to wrap this all up in - biggest enemies to best friends. It could happen!
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I have a feeling Harper is definitely pregnant, which will probably go one of two ways - Eric gets his 🐸🐸🐸🐸 together, and Harik can live on, or, Erik dies/continues being addicted and Harper is left alone with the baby. THEN hopefully Devin, who is hopefully still single, will enter the picture again, and he can patch things up with Harper and they will end up together. I am happy with either option ?
But in saying that, I really am liking Erik's character, probably because now we've seen his upbringing and there's more depth to him than just his addiction. He has a lot of potential for development, and if he does recover from his addiction and raises a child with Harper, it would be very interesting to explore how this will impact his relationship with his mother (who's own backstory is probably quite interesting). Also, Erik is cuter than Devin ? As somebody said before, Erik was such a cute toddler, and I really want to see those genes passed on!