Roofing idea that I don't know how to name [with examples pictures]

SimmerNickYT · August 2017

Hello everyone!
So I have been irritated by the roofs in The Sims 4 a lot.
I had this idea in my mind for roofing, but I don't know how to explain it in words.
Here are some images to explain myself.

I marked the floors of this house red. And here you can see what the roof and the walls do to the floors. I don't want the roof of the first floor to meet with the wall of the ground floor. But I want there to be some wall in between if that makes sense.

In this picture, you can see that there is a frieze on the below wall part of the third floor.

I hope everyone knows what I mean, it is just so hard to explain!

EDIT: Here is an example of what it should look like in the game. I want the roof and the floors to be like this, without the white roof parts on the side.

Callum2000 · August 2017

I've never actually thought of that before but I think that's a great idea. I would definitely appreciate more diverse tools and styles for us to build with.

Tazzykiki · August 2017

You want to be able to make rooms without the roofs clipping into them and possibly rooms within roofs? Sounds pretty cool.

MadameLee · August 2017

there's going to be octagonal roofs coming with Cats&Dogs EP

EgonVM · August 2017

Needs some programming so game knows that ceiling is lower, but other than that, it is a good idea.

SimmerNickYT · August 2017

Tazzykiki wrote: »

You want to be able to make rooms without the roofs clipping into them and possibly rooms withing roofs? Sounds pretty cool.

@Tazzykiki Well, that is the basic of my idea. But I'll try to explain it a little bit simpler.

In this image you see this house. It has the shortest wall height. It has the width of seven tiles. I put a gabled roof over it which also has the width of seven tiles.

Another house. It has the shortest wall height. It has the width of seven tiles. The roof however has the width of nine tiles.

Here is the same house. It has the shortest wall height. It has the width of seven tiles. The roof however has the width of nine tiles. But I want the one-tile half gables on the sides to be gone. This way you could have a roof with the same room of nine tiles on a ground floor of seven tiles.

In this house I recreated how that should look. But it isn't possible in The Sims 4. I had to give this house a medium wall height. I want the ground floor to be short. Then I want the roof of the first floor to sit on the half height of a short wall.

EgonVM wrote: »

Needs some programming so game knows that ceiling is lower, but other than that, it is a good idea.

Yes! Exactly! The ceiling of the medium-height ground floor should be lowered to a short-height ground floor.

Tazzykiki · August 2017

NickSims wrote: »

Tazzykiki wrote: »

You want to be able to make rooms without the roofs clipping into them and possibly rooms withing roofs? Sounds pretty cool.

@Tazzykiki Well, that is the basic of my idea. But I'll try to explain it a little bit simpler.

In this image you see this house. It has the shortest wall height. It has the width of seven tiles. I put a gabled roof over it which also has the width of seven tiles.

Another house. It has the shortest wall height. It has the width of seven tiles. The roof however has the width of nine tiles.

Here is the same house. It has the shortest wall height. It has the width of seven tiles. The roof however has the width of nine tiles. But I want the one-tile half gables on the sides to be gone. This way you could have a roof with the same room of nine tiles on a ground floor of seven tiles.

In this house I recreated how that should look. But it isn't possible in The Sims 4. I had to give this house a medium wall height. I want the ground floor to be short. Then I want the roof of the first floor to sit on the half height of a short wall.

EgonVM wrote: »

Needs some programming so game knows that ceiling is lower, but other than that, it is a good idea.

Yes! Exactly! The ceiling of the medium-height ground floor should be lowered to a short-height ground floor.

ah, okay. Makes sense.

Louise_G0325 · August 2017

This would be awesome!
I've also been annoyed when I wanted to create something similar to this with an attic-type bedroom but the walls of the roof doesn't register as a room and it's a mess. This type of tool would be very useful and open up many new building styles.

Maybe it could be done with a special sub-category in the roof tool where segments of a roof can be placed on a wall (almost like placing a window on a wall) that then acts accordingly for the aesthetic.

BethanyShone · August 2017

I really wish there was a way to do this so that I could build my actual home in TS4

SimmerNickYT · April 2018

Okay guys. I actually managed to do this roofing idea in the game because of a bug! I made a tutorial about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD_uCS64qto

(I'm not trying to necropost, just wanted to share this with the people who liked the original idea I posted.)

Dannydanbo · April 2018

The houses in the pictures are called "One and a half story" houses, meaning that the lower floor has a full height wall but the second floor is only half a wall. The issue is that sims don't squat or bend over to duct under a low ceiling. The area of the ceiling and floor must align in order for a sim to walk to the outside edge of the room.

The lower edge of any roof must always align with the ceiling of the room below. It can not (as of now) start halfway up a wall as in those pictures. I wish they could. There are many builds I would love to make. But, there would also be the problem of the second floor windows. They need a full wall to attach to.

MasonGamer · April 2018

I'm working on this:

hang on I'll get into the game and edit.
it's actually easy!

It's Called Second Empire and Most of my builds are built in this style now.

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It works best with tall wall heights if you want to add those trims to frame the build better.

just showing the roofing 1x (however wide the wall below is) pull the piece of roofing all the way up!
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as for the tower section is what I'm working on...

it may look tacky from above... and because I'm still trying to decide on color schemes, but structure wise, and in tab mode on the ground at sim level it looks pretty good.

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SimmerNickYT · April 2018

Dannydanbo wrote: »

The houses in the pictures are called "One and a half story" houses, meaning that the lower floor has a full height wall but the second floor is only half a wall. The issue is that sims don't squat or bend over to duct under a low ceiling. The area of the ceiling and floor must align in order for a sim to walk to the outside edge of the room.

The lower edge of any roof must always align with the ceiling of the room below. It can not (as of now) start halfway up a wall as in those pictures. I wish they could. There are many builds I would love to make. But, there would also be the problem of the second floor windows. They need a full wall to attach to.

But isn't this a little more specific than a 1 1/2 story? On this website (http://activerain.com/blogsview/1422260/so-what-is-it--two-story-or-one-and-one-half-) it says: "If the home has dormers, or gable ends that include windows, than by defenition it is a 1-1/2 story. In other words, there is a loft area, or living space between the ceiling of the first story and the roofline." Isn't this description just a full attic room? Idk maybe I'm wrong. I'm Dutch and I couldn't find any Dutch or English naming of what I was talking about in the OP.

And look at the video I linked. I actually managed to do it in the game. It's not perfect, but it's something else for a start.

Dannydanbo · April 2018

Attics don't always have windows, where as, 1 1/2 story's do.

SimmerNickYT · April 2018

Dannydanbo wrote: »

Attics don't always have windows, where as, 1 1/2 story's do.

I don't necessarily mean attic. But just a regular room under a roof where the bottom roof line meets the ceiling of the ground floor. Idk you understand my intent with this thread and the idea so that's all that matters.

SimmerNickYT · April 2018

MasonGamer wrote: »

I'm working on this:

hang on I'll get into the game and edit.
it's actually easy!

It's Called Second Empire and Most of my builds are built in this style now.

It works best with tall wall heights if you want to add those trims to frame the build better.

just showing the roofing 1x (however wide the wall below is) pull the piece of roofing all the way up!

as for the tower section is what I'm working on...

it may look tacky from above... and because I'm still trying to decide on color schemes, but structure wise, and in tab mode on the ground at sim level it looks pretty good.

Thank you for this and going into the game! I already know how to do that though sorry, what I mean is more specific. It's not clear what I meant in the picture that you inspired that roof from. I'll explain that picture better.

Dannydanbo · April 2018

I've built a lot of builds with an attic space, sometimes with dormers and gable end windows and sometimes without. Sometimes I place one or two bedrooms and a bathroom up there. Sometimes I just fill it with "junk" like stuff people want to keep but don't want downstairs in the main living areas.

SimmerNickYT · April 2018

Thanks again @MasonGamer for opening up the game and taking screenshots! I'm gonna explain what I mean (I'm way too passionate about this).

Okay so the red lines are how the floors are divided. In purple I numbered the floors. Above 3 there is a frieze. But this frieze isn't the top of 3. It's the bottom of 4. You see how that dormer would have wall space below it? That is where the frieze is. So in TS4 they do it totally different. I also divided the above floors of the houses in the back to make it more clear. Hope you understand my issue now?

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