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Including Laundry as a potential SP concept for us to vote for was a mistake
I never stated laundry shouldn't be made.
On the contrary, I'm arguing the fan feedback makes it clear laundry should've been made by the SP team without the need for us to vote for it in the poll. It's as I said: tomorrow if the EP team had us vote on five different completely new EP concepts...except one of them isn't new and it's Seasons...? Yeah, dunno about you, but I'd be driving to the bank to pull out my savings and bet it all on Seasons winning.
That they included laundry just diminishes the value of the poll and "ruins" an opportunity to give exposure to new ideas, instead giving us something we were already loud enough about to warrant it's production.
In other words, I think the problem with what you're saying is that they don't actually know if laundry will be included or not. And if they did, they wouldn't have put it in the poll because it would have already been in the works. It being in the poll just means it's a possible content option to them, it's not a guarantee.
i.e. to oversimplify the whole conversation: Nothing is a guarantee. And if something is a possible content option, that just means it's a possible content option on a gigantic list. It's no more concrete than the list of concepts we initially voted on.
At least, that is how it comes across to me.
I also question what the point is of some of the furniture that was chosen if by some chance laundry doesn't win. Why would I decorate my house with ironing boards and a wall shelf with clothes hangers when there would be no washing machines to go with it?
If it loses the vote, then something else will be made because laundry didn't generate enough votes. That's the point of having the vote. Maybe it'll come in some future pack or maybe it won't, but it will not come in this one unless it wins.
The new ideas seem to be holding their ground pretty well, or at least 2 of them are. New ideas contend with established ones, it's impossible to bench mark the popularity of a new idea if it's not properly compared to an established idea. If we don't have laundry and the vote were between the 3 new ideas only the winner could still be a terrible idea compared to laundry because we never bothered to see how it stacks up.
I thought it was elevator woohoo?
To me that kind of stuff I see in most New England mud rooms so I never once thought laundry room when I saw that decor stuff. I guess it depends on where you live as to what you see things like that as representing. But all that kind of thing here is generally found in the mud room which is generally the room off the kitchen that has the back door to outside. It's where we take off winter gear, keep things like recycling, brooms, mops, ironing boards and etc. My laundry room in my previous house was pretty sterile looking and had a area set up at one end for sewing. So none of that kind of stuff was in my laundry room for sure. LOL.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
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In REALITY, I simply exist.....
Elevator? How about shower
The thing is some people voted for the eco-living theme cause they wanted an eco-living SP you know, if they change the name for laundry then that's pretty much ignoring the first vote which was about the theme. To me it was a mistake to put laundry under the eco-living theme.
At this point if they want to please both the laundry people the eco-living people they will have to include laundry and something else eco-friendly, if laundry is the only new object/gameplay, then the people that wanted eco-friendly will be upset, and I can understand cause it was the theme of the pack, but if laundry lose I would also understand people to be upset cause it was show with the theme, and that mean that they might no get it or at least not in this pack.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they add two objects/gameplays (laundry and something else), and maybe sell the pack 15$, and before some people tell me all SP are 10$, this was said on this one that the price could be different. I don't see how they could please everyone unless they add two objects/gameplays.
As I said:
A.) If laundry is made after the fact, regardless of the vote, then it was rather moot to include it on the poll. What's the point if it was gonna be made anyways?
B.) If laundry isn't made after the fact, they accidently gave false hope and additional hype to a game concept that ALREADY had sizeable support before this project was announced. This sours fan attitude when the fans of laundry can point out it had loads of support in this poll, loads of support both before and after, and yet it wasn't included. It'll spawn an attitude of "the Sims team doesn't listen," and I don't feel that would happen to the same degree if laundry just weren't included in the project.
As someone said a page ago, laundry literally "cannot lose." The demand for laundry is going to be heard regardless of if it wins this poll or not.
And yeah, I'd be willing to bet a handsome sum that the only candidate that has any potential of beating Laundry is the preserves, particularly because Nectar-Making enjoys the exact same advantage: it's a pre-existing feature. As I said, it would NOT be half as popular as it is now if that "Nectar Making" snippet were renamed "Jam Making," simply because Nectar Making evokes thoughts of Sims 3 and has people thinking they know exactly what to expect.
It was a favorite of mine from World Adventures, I loved building nectar cellars!
As it is, it's not even decided yet...
Honestly I'll be ok if laundry wins, I really do want to see laundry make an apperance. However I will be a little frustrated that a fresh and exciting idea such as Off the grid loses to a concept that was already in the players mind before this poll was created. Laundry would do very well in a separate SP or as a feature in a GP/EP whereas ideas such as Off the Grid/Recycling would be harder to fit in and more likely to end up discarded as "the fans didn't want it."
That's not to say the poll is rigged or that any of the ideas are a "given." I genuinely think this poll is a brilliant idea and a true suggestion of the Sims team working with the fans.
Right, not trying to take away from that. Made this thread moreso to state "if we do something like this again in the future, perhaps pre-existing concepts should be exempt from being candidates."
Totally agree with you. Polls are a brilliant way of testing the water on new concepts.
On another note I suppose this poll makes a brilliant point on what the Sims Dev team are up against. It must be a difficult balance to try and focus on pushing out new content along with remaining concepts that were popular in previous Sims iterations.
Now we've got the actual feature poll, and once again it's laundry as the first one. You basically can't read the question of the poll without already seeing Laundry right under it.
It should've been last (right under canning), so that more people would possibly read through and consider the new ideas. As it is, I'm rather sure that there were people who just saw laundry and clicked on that one without reading the rest. And those who didn't like laundry were caught with canning and nectar making being next.
Really, if the developers want to make a laundry pack so much, then why don't they just do it in a seperate SP and let eco-living be about actual eco-living?
My prediction for the votes is as follows:
Canning/Nectar Making: 25%
Off The Grid: 10%
-> Yes, that's the exact order in which the options appeared. I'm predicting that it's going to be lower percentages the further you go away from the top of the page.
So far from responses on this forum, people seem to vote for Off the Grid the most. I don't know about simmers outside of the forums, but I'm just using the forum users here as a sample size. XD
The worst part is that all these exciting options we would love all of them to be implemented in the future and in the beginning it was hinted that these options would maybe be future gameplay. I think if that doesnt happen there will be alot of frustrated players like myself who expressed what we wanted and were basically thrown to the wayside. I loved the poll and it was fun. The voting system just doesnt really make sense on the gameplay options with the name of the pack and what it stands for. I would be happy to pay 20 for this game pack if you guys were willing to throw in the 3 gameplay options and I am sure lots of simmers would feel the same way. However we know that wont happen so we have to deal with being frustrated. Just means we love the game and playing it! We love the work you guys do and you do amazing!! We just got excited about the ideas and really want them now, thats all.
I voted for 'Off the Grid' which is a truly Eco concept, as were the others in the vote.
Laundry should not have been included - but bought in in another pack that I wouldn't bother to buy!! (well I probably would have, eventually, but only because I am a bit OCD about finishing collections )
Don't worry about this part, it was noticed on Friday that the order in the poll is randomized for each voter. In my ballot, it was 3rd, and a lot of other people posted various orders in which things were listed in their ballots.
I'm really curious as to why the team has lumped laundry into the category of things they don't plan to add anytime soon. Why was it optional and included in this survey when it is so highly requested? People obviously want it so why not give the people what they want?
I can only think of 5 popular things based on this community that an overwhelming amount of people wish would be added:
- New vacation spots
- Bunk beds
Bunk beds were mentioned recently as being "too much work for a SP". Unless laundry wins we either won't be getting it anytime soon OR we will never get it. Maybe they have plans to add cars, burglars, and more vacations?
Makes you wonder what other popular requested items will actually make it into the game.