Hey, so I wrote this article on why I don't like the toddlers in the Sims 4, but then again, I never really liked them in any of the previous games either! But I do hope you enjoy this article, and by all means please let me know if you like them or don't like them, why or why not? How could they have been better for you? I am interested in hearing your thoughts and I do hope you enjoy my article as much as I enjoyed writing it! Please keep in mind these are my thoughts, and my thoughts alone and not the thoughts of every community member! Thank you
https://dvsgaming.org/why-i-dislike-toddlers-in-the-sims-4/
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I love toddlers it's ok that we don't agree on them
Saying "not to be rude", then blatently being rude does not excuse rude behavior.
It's all good yeah?
Saying "not to be rude", then blatently being rude does not excuse rude behavior.
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"You still have to feed them (although now if you call everyone to a meal, they can go and get a plate on their own)."
-- Actually, you don't even need to do call to meal....if you drag any food out of the fridge and place it on a table or counter, the toddler will grab it themselves if they are hungry....and you can direct them to grab a plate too if you want.
"They never do what they are told—it’s like the “terrible twos” all of the time, which is pretty unrealistic."
-- It sounds like you haven't played very far into toddlers....focus on leveling the Thinking skill....they become less defiant each time Thinking increases a level. I've actually found most of my toddlers are pretty easy going and do what is asked of them. The wild, fussy and independent ones don't like to do as told until you level up Thinking but the Angelic, Clingy, Charmer, Silly and Inquisitive generally aren't that hard to deal with. You may want to go with the Inquisitive trait as those toddlers level up Thinking quicker, which helps with reducing both defiance and nightmares.
"The developers could have included toddlers riding coffee tables like horses, or they could have allowed Sims to change diapers on a changing table. Even a diaper rash developing if your Sim forgets to change a diaper would’ve added more realism to the toddlers in this game."
-- There are no changing tables but sims can change their diapers. If a toddler uses their diaper instead of the potty, then the "change diaper" option becomes available...and there is, in fact, a diaper rash that develops if the toddler stays in a dirty diaper for too long and they get a negative moodlet that says they have a diaper rash.
"Nightmare wake-ups are another thing; while they are realistic, it’s annoying when you have to calm the toddler and make their fear go away so they can sleep. One night, my Sim’s toddler kept waking her up. While I like how true-to-life this felt, if my Sim has to work early in the morning, I end up cheating with the needs cheats so she doesn’t suffer due to lack of sleep."
-- Nightmares can be prevented in multiple ways. If a sim reads the toddler to sleep, they don't get nightmares. If you have the toddler listen to the lullaby station before they go to sleep, they don't get nightmares....they have to listen long enough to get the happy moodlet from listening to the radio, which doesn't take long. Also, leveling the Thinking skill decreases nightmares too.
"I would love to be able to see what my kid is dreaming about, like we could in the Into the Future expansion pack for The Sims 3."
-- Not sure this is a toddler-specific comment. Toddlers, just like all the other sims in the game, have their dream thought bubbles which show what they are dreaming about. I haven't played TS3, so don't now what those dreams entailed....but toddler dreams in TS4 are no more or less than the dreams for child, teen and adult sims.
Do you know how long people like me had to play with a BROKEN game because toddlers were missing? I'll give you a clue - nearly three years!
> So you don't like toddlers because they're hard work? Byeee.
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> Do you know how long people like me had to play with a BROKEN game because toddlers were missing? I'll give you a clue - nearly three years!
none of you "had" to do anything...
and it was just an opinion. you can relax.
as for OP wanting an option to disable toddlers, I don't see why immediate age up can't suffice. That's what I do with babies.
Good point. I am not much of a family player either, but in game terms I do like the level of difficulty. I am glad they are in the game as the make good background to my own YA/A/E play. I would love that complexity for elders which is another fragile life state
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day's divinity....
The Ghost Song - Jim Morrison
Thank you posting this. I am not a fan of playing families of small kids and so tend to skim over those families in my rotation. I have not really put much effort into really learning the systems around toddlers/kids and your post is an excellent crib sheet.
I do like building dedicated residences so I am going to setup a little school for them to get that thinking skill up. Lullaby station! That completely went under my radar - they say no electronics in the bedroom, but, hey, tunes right?
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day's divinity....
The Ghost Song - Jim Morrison
but what was here described as difficulies by @Brody9962 & as solutions by @JimG72 sounds to me like interesting strategy gameplay
i wish every part of TS4 would be at least that detailed
You like them. I get that. Great. But is it really that hard for people to grasp that not everyone does? I LOVED not having them for three years. And I would love the option to turn them off. Just like I would love the option to turn off ghosts, aliens, phones, and all sorts of things so you can customize your game the way you want them, and not be forced to play the way the loudest people want it.
I'm sick of being told 'just don't play', or being called names, because I don't want to play MY game the same way other people want to play their game.
You definitely do not deserve names because you don't like toddlers. I guess when you play if you have kids you can just hit the birthday cake and age them straight up. I like them and they are my favourite life state (but only in the sims 4 but that's only because I feel the other age groups need an overhaul and they aren't as fleshed out. But I wasn't chomping at the bit to get them added in, it was a "nice to have" (No diresepect to those that wanted them in)
I have more of an issue with aliens in my game because without mods I can't get rid of them. I play a realistic style. But I don't see toddlers unless they are my households whereas I remember the first time I played dine out and went to a restaurant, the waitress was an alien, so was the host and so was the chef. I remember thinking "it must be an alien restaurant!"
I have no mods. Never have. No mods, no CC, base game and the pack with the bugs and camping only. I don't even go to the parks any more, because even the toddlers there are unattended. They are usually playing on the rocket ship thing when I first get there, but then they will just wander around. Even as the day goes on and Sims start to go home, the toddlers stay, like they are there by themselves. And yes, they walk by the houses on the sidewalk like everyone one. Sometimes they are being carried, but most of the time they are just wandering around.
I would very much like an option to turn off aliens, too. I never bought that back because of the aliens, and there was so much else in that pack I was interested in. But when I found out you were just stuck with them I didn't bother. Same with the vamp pack. There are a ton of really amazing build items in that pack, but I just don't want vamps in my game. It would be nice to be able to turn them off, so we can still play with everything else. Or even if there was the option to turn things on and off per game, so you can play with vamps in one save, and have a more realistic game in another save. I don't understand the complete lack of options in this game.