Here is a place for those of us who are not so happy with the Sims 4 right now, and those who are Neutral, those that are Happy can also post here, as long as they do not try to bash the one's who are not happy with the Sims 4, I figured I would make this Post since the other's only seemed to want to make a Happy Post, We are not here to Bash the Guru's or the company, just thought's about what other's are having trouble with in the game and do not like, thank you.
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This is a Discussion thread for those of us who need to get it out once in awhile, to talk bout what is going on with them in game and such, Feed back does nothing about anything anyway, at least here they will be able to talk things out more, Cause I do care bout all the people, not just the Happy go lucky ones,
Yup sounds like it, I am not happy bout not having anything that I use for My type of game play, which is Gothic, I am also sad that a lot of things in the game is still missing after almost 2 years, but I am waiting to see if or when, anything that I use will ever be added.
Ya stuff like that should be changed or fixed, cause it takes away from what you are trying to do with the family, yup.
Expecially the life stages are just so...limited, and lacking... Is astonishing how many things less the game have looking at the sims 3 (base game!!!) and the world...is quite a big disappointmant, after playng the sims 3.
For the sims 4 I was looking for a sequel of the sims 3, and I didn't even found a sequel of the sims 2...
it would be kind of realistic if there would be also the anger directed at the culprit, it would be interesting to play a sim which is confused enough to become angry at the daughter while the husbund is the guilty one, it would be unjust anger then
but as those sims are now, nothing really matters cause they don't realise what's going on & if they do in their rare moments of clarity so it is soon forgotten, not memorized & as you said, it all has no consequences, so in the end it's same if she is angry at the daughter, the husband or not at all
& i like that thread,
i hope it stays
But.... the lack of in-depth game play is a real issue. Everything that gets added seems like sugar coating, delightful to look at and exciting to play through... but then I'm left with nothing. What I can't figure out is if it is simply because it is only a few packs in and more content will alleviate this or if it really is just a simple game.
Relationship culling, culling from family trees and culling in general during a long running game are real problems. I understand the guru's decisions and this function's purpose from a developers perspective (well as much as I can) but from a players perspective this feature absolutely su.cks. It really is an enjoyment killer. I haven't played for a couple of weeks now because after I had to reintroduce my sims 'friends' to him for the 3rd time I just gave up... it was to much of a struggle, the game play was boringly repetitive and I simply just couldn't be bothered. Not such a great selling point to a pretty game. I truly said to myself..."omg I can NOT be bothered" and quit out.
I play generational games with an odd sinking feeling in my gut when it is almost time for my founder and wife to die as I know that within a few generations they will be wiped from the family tree. This is so bad. I created my founder, fell in love with him enough to play a generational game and yet he won't even be a memory soon. It makes me not play this file... the story it sits on another forum, waiting for an update, while I just can't bring myself to play knowing that this culling is soon going to ruin everything.
I also miss toddlers. I do. I'm not really a family player as such but I miss them. I want them back in my game so bad. They won't solve any of the other issues but I still want them.
I really hate that I can't toggle certain features on or off. I really really hate that certain patches have changed elements of the game that I liked the most (mostly the whole alien saga with the chance of abduction pregnancies now so low they are impossible to rely on).
At times I have to sort of 'struggle' with my sim to get him to do what I want... canceling his actions twice etc and redirecting him. Other times there is nothing in the action queue to cancel so I just have to sit and watch him doing random stuff. For example despite clicking on the downstairs 'inspired room' computer he walks all the way upstairs (three floors) to use the 'focused rooms' PC. Or the weird 'stand in the park not doing any of my queued actions' because some random townie wants to hug him from all the way across the open space, not just from within the buildable area. Gah!
I often feel like an observer instead of a god. I mean I like watching my sims do stuff but not to this extent, I feel sort of disconnected from my sim, unattached and at times, like what I want doesn't matter as if I left my game running over night my sim would probably be fine and having a better time than when I 'control' him! lol It's a weird feeling and haven't ever experienced that with any other sim game.
Anyway, I'll stop here, this is turning into quite a wall of text. I have such mixed feeling regarding this game. love/hate, anger/enjoyment. I do know that I won't ever buy another 'new' sims game on launch... if there are anymore that is.
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.”Will Wright.
Yup that is what we all are waiting for I guess, more content,
Thank you so much for sharing, I feel your pain and hope that it only gets better, I am still waiting from day 1 to get stuff that I use for My game, so I know how sad it is to have to wait on things, I am not sure what I am going to do as well, if another Sims game comes out, guess only time will tell, .
I am hoping for a Family tree as well, I miss a lot of things about the franchise, I go back to Sims 2 & 3 , when it gets to bad to miss, that is the only way I can cope with the Sims 4 right now, the fact that I have them to go back to,
Saying that a thread will turn into a flame war is pointless. Completely. If you see posts that break the forum rules, report them. If everything is fine, there’s no point saying something like that. Isn’t it better to contribute to the OPs topic?
TS4 is a huge disappointment for me. I won’t go into details about every single thing I dislike about this game, because I’d have to spend hours on writing an extremely long post, but this is a great thread to pop up in every now and then and complain about something that annoys us.
Overall, I hate the direction/vision of this game. Everything is shallow, sims are cheaters by default (I hate that really, it isn’t fun for me at all; it only can be if I decide that a certain sim should be a cheater, all of them being unfaithful is the last thing I want), and the mainly advertised features aren’t really that great. Emotions aren’t based on any in-depth system, build mode and CAS are limited, removing CASt was one of the worst decisions ever... It doesn’t seem to be an AAA PC game, it’s more like a cheap tablet game for kids. ‘Features’ that ‘work as designed’ are game-breaking, and it only makes the impression that the devs didn’t play The Sims at all. Lots of things seem half baked; had the game been improving over time? Sure, but I doubt it can become a sims game I really like. If I dislike its main direction/vision, EPs can’t change that.
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I’m referring to randomly generated random romantic relations.
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Thank you BlueBlack, some of us DO need to talk about how dreadful they find the game. It doesn't mean those who like it are being bashed, it just means that Maxis has a very long way to go to please more of us. Especially me!
About three weeks ago I was playing my Stoddard-Collins family. I had added Quentin (not yet a ghost) to the west wing of their house and locked him away because in the old soap he is trapped there and possesses David and Amy to cause havoc for others. Even hurt others.
O.K. Barnabas visited them (their pretend vampire cousin from the 1700's) which they don't know that. While he was leaving David grabbed his bowl and started running after him. Of course Barnabas couldn't stop because he was on his way home. I couldn't stop David from going anywhere. I was like screaming at him to stop as I watched the scene from the old western movie play out in my game. Shane! Come back, Shane!
I was not a happy camper. He finally stopped when Barnabas disappeared into his invisible portal to go home. There was nothing for me to click to send David back home. I had to zoom back to the house, click on something so David (the little boy) would go back home.
In the meantime, Quentin had gotten out of his room somehow and gotten under the roof, stuck there. Imagine my frustration. I would have to quit without saving or go into manage worlds and knock them all out into the front yard, but not really their front yard but just right on the edge of their land where there would be no option to send them all back home. Great.
So, I had to go do that, and of course Quentin also landed outside because that was the only way I could get him out from under the roof.
So, I had to go to more trouble not to let him talk to anyone and get him locked back up in a hurry.
They all stood outside doing nothing not really on their actual property just beyond it, with no option to send them home. I had to click on something inside the house for eight Sims to do so they would all go back into the house. Isn't that a load of fun?
Vickie who narrates most of the very first episodes of DS wouldn't finish writing her novels. Every time she started one and had to be interrupted it all started over again. (That was supposed to be fixed along with the other bug Sims getting outside a wall months ago).
So, it was forget trying to finish a novel. Carolyn (Elisabeth's YA daughter caught the kitchen on fire three times) no cooking skills at all. She was jinxed. Maybe Quentin was hexing her.
After paying to replace the counters and clean up the kitchen Mrs. Johnson (housekeeper) and Roger (the brother of Elisabeth) kept getting the tense moodlet though the fire was over hours ago. It would come back over and over every time the entered the kitchen.
Roger ran out of the house a few times long after the fire was over and everything replaced. I don't think he got the memo the fire was over hours ago, and all cleaned up.
Elizabeth kept going to Carolyn's locked room to talk to her though the door is locked. Over and over day after day she would go up those stairs to talk to Carolyn. I guess it fits in with DS but it got annoying.
The decided the half wall used as the stair railing was a good place to place food every time the seven of them went upstairs to Carolyn's room or to wave at each other. Though Carolyn had long since went downstairs to the drawing room to play the piano or mix drinks.
That is only about one third of what bugs popped up that day and or what went wrong with them playing musical chairs all over the house. And Vickie often jogs to lose weight (she has gained way too much) but never turns around and comes back. I have to go searching for her.
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The next time I started over, in a brand new game, replacing all the buildings and houses again, with my own (In WB) Professor Stokes suddenly became extra thin for no reason when I was playing him. Morbidly so. His legs looked like tooth picks compared to his shoulders. I deleted him and added him back but it just wasn't the same. So, I quit save and started again.
No one better say to me how buggy TS3 is and they had to start over because this is the fifth time I have started over in WB due to bugs.
I don't fully understand the hates children trait. While I don't expect a sim to be mean to his own child ... i don't think he should also just go around auto-hugging, cuddling and spontaneous acts of love. He gets tense around the friends of the child ... he loves to smash the dollhouse and make the kids cry ... but here champ, have a hug.
My insane sim isn't really insane ... sure he talks to himself a lot ... but if that is the definition of insanity then I am insane as well. And sure, his moods can quickly change ... but thats about it. Let him be obsessive ... let him do something crazy, let him decide its a good time to go jogging outside naked ... but no. He is insane cause a box says he is insane.
I wish they would just push the limits on the negative side. Let your hot-headed sims want to fight everything that passes by on the street when they are angry and not just angry walk all over the house. Let the gloomy sims stay all sad and gloomy and mope around and make others be miserable with them. Let the evil sims be evil ...
Let the darker sides out to play some.
I wish I didn't have to deal with random romances with my played sims when I change households. If I wanted them to have a specific romance, I would initiate it. I don't like it when the game takes that choice from me.
I wish I had at least double the room in the worlds. I like to play a large variety of sims over multiple generations. In Sims 2, I bounce around from household to household and I really enjoy being able to play all the sims in my world.
I wish instead of culling (and relationship culling) being a thing that "works as intended" that it didn't exist at all. When I decided to play the Sims, I chose to upgrade and improve my computer as needed so that I could have the best gaming experience possible. I would rather continue to have that responsibility than a downgraded game.
I wish that the family tree worked correctly, and I wish we had community cemeteries so that I can see and enjoy for myself how my Sims world grows over time. The multi-generational history of my families and the town they live in is a big deal to me.
I wish the traits worked properly. Many of them seem to be just a name tag, not really impacting the gameplay. Emotions kind of take over and shunt any "personality" the sim is supposed to have to the side. It's frustrating, and it makes all my sims seem the same.
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