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Could teens be an afterthought?
agent_bev
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This would explain why they are the same height, wear the same clothes, and behave the same as YA/ Adult sims:
http://modthesims.info/showthread.php?p=4803478&posted=1#post4803478
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http://modthesims.info/showthread.php?p=4803478&posted=1#post4803478
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It looks like it, a fast and rushed way to add them on last minute would be the reason why they plum.
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One of the gurus also said that teens are the same height as adults so that they could recycle animations from the adult stage, thus saving them time that would've been spent redoing the animations for shorter teens, which would've meant extra work that doesn't add anything new to the game.
So yeah, I also believe teens were an afterthought. The children were surprisingly well-done, though.
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Btw, the first time they showed a teen in the game was in a July 30 2014 trailer, they announced that toddlers would be removed in July 8.
I really agree there. I HATE playing families, and never did it unless it was for an achievement. And then I ditched the kids as soon as possible. I found toddlers tedious and children downright boring.
When I got TS4 I had one child, mostly wondering if Mom's green skin would pass on to the child (it did!). I immediately aged up the baby, and started to play the child. And I was surprized to find I really liked him! It was the first time I ever cared about a child in a Sims game. He felt like a real person, and I was actually interested in keeping him happy. They did well with children, I think.
I agree. They managed to do an awesome job on the children. In a way, the fact that the children are so good in TS4 only magnifies the issues with the teens.
This. And it's the only reason I found myself missing toddlers, a life stage I mostly avoided in Sims 3 and only sometimes played much of in Sims 2. I hope they get a chance to work on something like a GP or EP full of Teen Life things – school, jobs, hangouts, crushes and disappointments, acne and whatever else is really about that time of life – and use that time to patch in some further changes for our teens that make them more special, even if that can't include height change.
I would LOVE all of what you just mentioned!! If only the devs thought like you.
Ooh, I remember suggesting malt shops (like Archie comics) and skateboards in a thread a few months back. Skateboards for teens would be a new and awesome feature.
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Unfortunately I find the over emphasised YA life stage and lack of detail (or lack there of in the case of toddlers) in other stages a game breaker for myself personally. Just the fact that teens, adults and elders are all the same size really narks me. I know in RL that some times it can be the case that a teen is the same height and an adult, or an OAP could be the same height as a teen however this is not real life, this is a game. In real life people come in all different heights and as that could be difficult animation wise to project into the game I feel there should be more heigh distinction for the various life stages.
I'd prefer teens in the game to reflect the ages 14 - 16/17 as I am of the opinion YA's are aged 18 -25. The current teens in the game look to be around 18 - 20 IMO therefore for myself, they are essentially pointless. I'd like to see more things in the game for teens such as suggested above to give them a little more definition and purpose.
Baby: 0-1
Toddler: 1-5
Kid: 5-10
Tween: 10-13
Teen: 13-20
YA: 20-35
Adult: 35-54
Old person: (or as the game calls 'elder') 54-80
Natural death: 80
The first age in each life stage is when it starts and the second is where the next one starts, ending tht one.
The YAs are done perfectly, so are adults, elders, babies and kids.
As a teen myself I find the teens slightly offensive in game. Yes I prefer them to teens in previous games but I don't like the fact they are exactly the same as YA/adult/elder. They are unique, teens are very different to adults in rl. They need to represent 13-17 (the most defined teen stage) not 16-20 like they currently do as currently they have no uniqueness, even for tht age they shouldn't be a photocopied adult life stage. I just ignore them and enjoy playing YAs anyways although I would have teens in my game, if they seemed like true teens
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Kids are pretty good but there's pretty much 0 difference between teens/young adults/adults and elders to the point where they needed to add labels to them to tell them apart. Literally.
I think it would pretty much be the same. I mean just replace the word toddlers with teens in threads about toddlers.
That being said each of the lifestages you pointed out (which IMO is considered the perfect complete lifestage cycle), looks wise, should be averaged out and the age is given at that; Except teens. Many teens look like adults at age 17 (at least where I am). So for example, this would be, in my opinion, the guide to go for, for looks:
Baby: 0-1 (obviously can't change much here)
Toddler: 3
Kid: 7 (or eight)
Tween: 11 or 12 (not much of a looks difference but a very contrasting personality when compared to kid)
Teen: 15
YA: 22 (There is a very large contrast between 15 and 22 looks-wise)
Adult: 42
Elder: 65-80
TS2 added Young Adults so they could be Different from Teens when they went to University but still limited from Adults. They still sounded like Teens but they walked differently than Adults.
YA added in TS3 are just another age of Adult with less facial wrinkles. So, in TS4- is there any difference between Teens and Adults except they can't have children?
Now, I've been enlightened that children are just shrunk down adults. I can see it now. :lmao:
I think what happened is someone said: "well if we make teens the same height, that halves our animation and clothing requirements" and then somebody in accounting got very excited, and suddenly everyone was dancing and drunk and putting in an order for a new Mercedes.
I very much doubt the person who put in the original design was like 'no real babies, no toddlers, no teens - best game evah!'.