@BrownBlossoms When you are playing the game on OS X, does the fan kick in? (In other words, the Mac generating enough heat to actually need cooling)
I have last years model of MBPr 15", and I am not running far from your setup, and I am generating around 40 FPS average.
The Edge smoothing to medium could give a little bit better performance, Maybe disabling Post processing effects could give a little too.
> @BrownBlossoms said:
> Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, 2GB GDDR5 memory (I have a late 2013 mbp retina 15" laptop with 512 GB space)
> Operating System - Yosemite 10.10.2
>
> Graphics Quality - Custom
> Display Type - Fullscreen
> Resolution - 1600 x1200
> Vertical Sync - No
> Sims - High
> Objects - High
> Lighting - High
> Reflections - High
> Visual Effects - High
> Edge Smoothing - High
> 3D Scene Resolution - High
> View Distance - High
> Uncompressed Sim Textures - No
> Post Processing Effects - Yes
> Laptop Mode - No
>
> FPS Live Mode: 20-24
> FPS Build Mode: 11-12
>
> Okay, so judging by the above FPS and the horrible gameplay lag I'm experiencing, I'm wondering if my graphics card isn't kicking in here? I just...right now, I don't have a single clue why it's playing so horribly on the Mac side for me.
>
> However, here are my Bootcamp specs:
>
> Graphics Quality - Custom
> Display Type - Fullscreen
> Resolution - 1920 x 1200
> Refresh Rate: 60
> Vertical Sync - No
> Sims - High
> Objects - High
> Lighting - High
> Reflections - High
> Visual Effects - High
> Edge Smoothing - High
> 3D Scene Resolution - High
> View Distance - High
> Uncompressed Sim Textures - No
> Post Processing Effects - Yes
> Laptop Mode - No
>
>
> FPS Live Mode: 40-50
> FPS Build Mode: 30-40
>
> Gameplay is MUCH smoother on Bootcamp for me.
>
>
Try playing at your native 2880x1800 resolution under OS X with Retina ON and Edge Smoothing OFF (make sure to restart the game). I noticed that Edge Smoothing causes a huge hit in performance and at higher (retina) resolutions it is largely unncessary.
If that does not work, I would recommend playing at 1440x900 (half your native resolution), with Edge Smoothing on LOW (possibly turning Retina OFF for UI size).
Your graphics card is pretty decent, I would expect it able to play it at decent settings.
I have the 2013 MBA 13"
4 gb, 1.3 processor, HD 5000
Resolution - 1440 x 900
Vertical Sync - yes
Sims - med
Objects - med
Lighting - low
Reflections - low
Visual Effects - med
Edge Smoothing - off
3D Scene Resolution - med
View Distance - high
Uncompressed Sim Textures - no
Post Processing Effects - no
Laptop Mode - no
FPS Live Mode: 40-50's
FPS Build Mode: 30-50's
@Chumcha, please can you confirm how much VRAM your graphics uses, is it 512Mb?
Apple icon > About This Mac > Intel HD 5000 ????
I also need to know which operating system you're running. Without these 2 crucial bits of information your specs. are useless.
Graphics card - Intel HD graphics 4000 & NVIDIA GEForce GT 650M Operating System - Yosemite 10.10.2
Now onto the graphics settings in game:
Graphics Quality - Custom Display Type - Windowed Resolution - 2560x1484 Vertical Sync - No Sims - High Objects - High Lighting - High Reflections - High Visual Effects - High Edge Smoothing - Medium 3D Scene Resolution - High View Distance - Low Uncompressed Sim Textures - No Post Processing Effects - No Laptop Mode - No
FPS Live Mode: 50-55 FPS Build Mode: 45-50
How happy are you with the overall graphics performance. Are you experiencing any lag? I'm disappointed. They touted how it would run on low end machines. I have a decent machine. But, in fullscreen mode I have to have my settings all on low to play without significant lag. Now, in windowed mode I can play with most settings (but not all) on high and it plays pretty well. But it's disappointing that I have to play in windowed mode.
And finally, if you were previously playing the game in Boot Camp (ONLY Boot Camp, not a separate PC or VM), how do the graphics compare:
It played better in bootcamp. I had all my settings on high, fullscreen, no lag at all. If the playability doesn't improve for me, I may switch back to playing in bootcamp.
@lisamwitt - does your NVIDIA card have 512MB VRAM or 1GB?
Macbook Pro (Retina 13-inch Late 2013)
Yosemite 10.10.2
2.5GHz intelcore i5
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 4000 1024 MB
in game settings:
Graphics Quality - Custom
Display Type - Full
Resolution - 2560x x 1600
Vertical Sync - No
Sims - High
Objects - High
Lighting - High
Reflections - High
Visual Effects - High
Edge Smoothing - medium
3D Scene Resolution - High
View Distance - High
Uncompressed Sim Textures - yes
Post Processing Effects - no
Laptop Mode - unchecked
Macbook Pro 15 late 2011 w/ Radeon HD 6770M 1gb and iMac 21 inch late 2013 w/ NVIDIA GeForce 750m 1gb.
The settings for both are:
Display: Fullscreen
Resolution: 1440x900 (for Macbook Pro) and 1920 x 1080 (for iMac)
Vertical Sync: No
Graphics Quality: Custom
Sims: High
Lighting: Medium
Reflections: Medium
Visual Effects: High
Edge Smoothing: Low
3D Scene Resolution: High
View Distance: High
Post Processing Effects: Yes
Laptop Mode: No
Game runs great, no lag and in my opinion runs better than under Bootcamp.
> @kaiserj said:
> I actually play TS4 on two different Macs
>
> Macbook Pro 15 late 2011 w/ Radeon HD 6770M 1gb and iMac 21 inch late 2013 w/ NVIDIA GeForce 750m 1gb.
>
> The settings for both are:
>
> Display: Fullscreen
> Resolution: 1440x900 (for Macbook Pro) and 1920 x 1080 (for iMac)
> Vertical Sync: No
> Graphics Quality: Custom
> Sims: High
> Lighting: Medium
> Reflections: Medium
> Visual Effects: High
> Edge Smoothing: Low
> 3D Scene Resolution: High
> View Distance: High
> Post Processing Effects: Yes
> Laptop Mode: No
>
> Game runs great, no lag and in my opinion runs better than under Bootcamp.
@Lunder89 - Oddly enough, it took several minutes for my fan to kick in; when it finally did, it was only a slight whisper (doesn't run nearly as loudly as when I'm playing on my bootcamped partition, but perhaps that's due to a number of different things?).
@ErikTheRod - Thank you SO MUCH for those suggestions! They helped with the look of the game, but the lag and low frame rate is still appearing, and I have no idea why.
I actually have a separate, odd issue now that I can't find a lot out there for. I'm hesitant to post it here (lest I clog up this post with random error information), but if anyone's had a dialog box pop up that said "vmmap needs to take control of another process for debugging to continue. Type your password to allow this", OR "Developer Tools Access needs to take control of another process for debugging to continue. Type your password to allow this", I'd be grateful to hear about what you did. My game quit unexpectedly after those two messages appeared, so...sigh. Going to try and investigate more and give more info if I find anything out.
Graphics Quality - Custom
Display Type - Fullscreen
Resolution - 1440 x 900
Retina Resolution: No
Vertical Sync - No
Sims - High
Objects - High
Lighting - High
Reflections - High
Visual Effects - High
Edge Smoothing - Medium
3D Scene Resolution - High
View Distance - Low
Uncompressed Sim Textures - Yes
Post Processing Effects - Yes
Laptop Mode - No
Boot Camp comparison - Boot Camp is significantly faster. I can run the game at 1920 x 1200 with Ultra Settings and still get 30–50 FPS with no trouble. On OS X, I get lag even in the character creator. I'm going back to the Boot Camp version because Open GL just can't compete with DirectX.
White MacBook Mid-2010 (5GB Ram)
OSX Mavericks
NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256MB
Great considering on my Windows Partition it ran at Low Medium on Laptop Mode otherwise it crashed, and I went back to my Gaming PC.
On OSX, it played on High on Laptop Mode and didn't crash during Gameplay.
Windows were fine.
However, it did crash a few times if I clicked too many things in the Gallery at once (like Open a Tab and instantly click on what I wanted).
Not sure if that's an issue for me, but it didn't happen on the Windows Partition. And the Gallery doesn't change on different settings.
Through Gameplay it ran perfectly fine for 3 hours or so straight.
@Lunder89 - Oddly enough, it took several minutes for my fan to kick in; when it finally did, it was only a slight whisper (doesn't run nearly as loudly as when I'm playing on my bootcamped partition, but perhaps that's due to a number of different things?).
@ErikTheRod - Thank you SO MUCH for those suggestions! They helped with the look of the game, but the lag and low frame rate is still appearing, and I have no idea why.
I actually have a separate, odd issue now that I can't find a lot out there for. I'm hesitant to post it here (lest I clog up this post with random error information), but if anyone's had a dialog box pop up that said "vmmap needs to take control of another process for debugging to continue. Type your password to allow this", OR "Developer Tools Access needs to take control of another process for debugging to continue. Type your password to allow this", I'd be grateful to hear about what you did. My game quit unexpectedly after those two messages appeared, so...sigh. Going to try and investigate more and give more info if I find anything out.
Sounds like a RAM issue, like the debug error in TS3. Have you tried purging RAM regularly during gameplay? Make sure you pause your game beforehand.
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I have last years model of MBPr 15", and I am not running far from your setup, and I am generating around 40 FPS average.
The Edge smoothing to medium could give a little bit better performance, Maybe disabling Post processing effects could give a little too.
> Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, 2GB GDDR5 memory (I have a late 2013 mbp retina 15" laptop with 512 GB space)
> Operating System - Yosemite 10.10.2
>
> Graphics Quality - Custom
> Display Type - Fullscreen
> Resolution - 1600 x1200
> Vertical Sync - No
> Sims - High
> Objects - High
> Lighting - High
> Reflections - High
> Visual Effects - High
> Edge Smoothing - High
> 3D Scene Resolution - High
> View Distance - High
> Uncompressed Sim Textures - No
> Post Processing Effects - Yes
> Laptop Mode - No
>
> FPS Live Mode: 20-24
> FPS Build Mode: 11-12
>
> Okay, so judging by the above FPS and the horrible gameplay lag I'm experiencing, I'm wondering if my graphics card isn't kicking in here? I just...right now, I don't have a single clue why it's playing so horribly on the Mac side for me.
>
> However, here are my Bootcamp specs:
>
> Graphics Quality - Custom
> Display Type - Fullscreen
> Resolution - 1920 x 1200
> Refresh Rate: 60
> Vertical Sync - No
> Sims - High
> Objects - High
> Lighting - High
> Reflections - High
> Visual Effects - High
> Edge Smoothing - High
> 3D Scene Resolution - High
> View Distance - High
> Uncompressed Sim Textures - No
> Post Processing Effects - Yes
> Laptop Mode - No
>
>
> FPS Live Mode: 40-50
> FPS Build Mode: 30-40
>
> Gameplay is MUCH smoother on Bootcamp for me.
>
>
Try playing at your native 2880x1800 resolution under OS X with Retina ON and Edge Smoothing OFF (make sure to restart the game). I noticed that Edge Smoothing causes a huge hit in performance and at higher (retina) resolutions it is largely unncessary.
If that does not work, I would recommend playing at 1440x900 (half your native resolution), with Edge Smoothing on LOW (possibly turning Retina OFF for UI size).
Your graphics card is pretty decent, I would expect it able to play it at decent settings.
@Chumcha, please can you confirm how much VRAM your graphics uses, is it 512Mb?
Apple icon > About This Mac > Intel HD 5000 ????
I also need to know which operating system you're running. Without these 2 crucial bits of information your specs. are useless.
@lisamwitt - does your NVIDIA card have 512MB VRAM or 1GB?
If you turn off Laptop Mode, are your windows still greyed out?
Yosemite 10.10.2
2.5GHz intelcore i5
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 4000 1024 MB
in game settings:
Graphics Quality - Custom
Display Type - Full
Resolution - 2560x x 1600
Vertical Sync - No
Sims - High
Objects - High
Lighting - High
Reflections - High
Visual Effects - High
Edge Smoothing - medium
3D Scene Resolution - High
View Distance - High
Uncompressed Sim Textures - yes
Post Processing Effects - no
Laptop Mode - unchecked
No lag, no issues yet.
My Mood:
Not on my laptop no.
I'm installing it on my 2007 iMac now, I'll see what happens with that.
My Mood:
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/816768/do-you-have-intel-graphics-and-or-greyed-out-opaque-windows
Is your Retina Resolution ticked?
> EAfan99 Jazzpuz conday884
>
> If you turn off Laptop Mode, are your windows still greyed out?
Nope, no grey windows now :D but now it doesn't run as smoothly.
yes
My Mood:
1024 MB actually.
That's equivalent to 1GB - thank you
Macbook Pro 15 late 2011 w/ Radeon HD 6770M 1gb and iMac 21 inch late 2013 w/ NVIDIA GeForce 750m 1gb.
The settings for both are:
Display: Fullscreen
Resolution: 1440x900 (for Macbook Pro) and 1920 x 1080 (for iMac)
Vertical Sync: No
Graphics Quality: Custom
Sims: High
Lighting: Medium
Reflections: Medium
Visual Effects: High
Edge Smoothing: Low
3D Scene Resolution: High
View Distance: High
Post Processing Effects: Yes
Laptop Mode: No
Game runs great, no lag and in my opinion runs better than under Bootcamp.
> I actually play TS4 on two different Macs
>
> Macbook Pro 15 late 2011 w/ Radeon HD 6770M 1gb and iMac 21 inch late 2013 w/ NVIDIA GeForce 750m 1gb.
>
> The settings for both are:
>
> Display: Fullscreen
> Resolution: 1440x900 (for Macbook Pro) and 1920 x 1080 (for iMac)
> Vertical Sync: No
> Graphics Quality: Custom
> Sims: High
> Lighting: Medium
> Reflections: Medium
> Visual Effects: High
> Edge Smoothing: Low
> 3D Scene Resolution: High
> View Distance: High
> Post Processing Effects: Yes
> Laptop Mode: No
>
> Game runs great, no lag and in my opinion runs better than under Bootcamp.
Forgot Objects which is on high
Yes it is.
> kaiserj what OS are running on both machines?
OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
@ErikTheRod - Thank you SO MUCH for those suggestions! They helped with the look of the game, but the lag and low frame rate is still appearing, and I have no idea why.
I actually have a separate, odd issue now that I can't find a lot out there for. I'm hesitant to post it here (lest I clog up this post with random error information), but if anyone's had a dialog box pop up that said "vmmap needs to take control of another process for debugging to continue. Type your password to allow this", OR "Developer Tools Access needs to take control of another process for debugging to continue. Type your password to allow this", I'd be grateful to hear about what you did. My game quit unexpectedly after those two messages appeared, so...sigh. Going to try and investigate more and give more info if I find anything out.
Operating System - Yosemite 10.10.2
Processor: i7 2.8 GHz
RAM: 16 GB
HD: 1 TB
Now onto the graphics settings in game:
Graphics Quality - Custom
Display Type - Fullscreen
Resolution - 1440 x 900
Retina Resolution: No
Vertical Sync - No
Sims - High
Objects - High
Lighting - High
Reflections - High
Visual Effects - High
Edge Smoothing - Medium
3D Scene Resolution - High
View Distance - Low
Uncompressed Sim Textures - Yes
Post Processing Effects - Yes
Laptop Mode - No
Boot Camp comparison - Boot Camp is significantly faster. I can run the game at 1920 x 1200 with Ultra Settings and still get 30–50 FPS with no trouble. On OS X, I get lag even in the character creator. I'm going back to the Boot Camp version because Open GL just can't compete with DirectX.
OSX Mavericks
NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256MB
Great considering on my Windows Partition it ran at Low Medium on Laptop Mode otherwise it crashed, and I went back to my Gaming PC.
On OSX, it played on High on Laptop Mode and didn't crash during Gameplay.
Windows were fine.
However, it did crash a few times if I clicked too many things in the Gallery at once (like Open a Tab and instantly click on what I wanted).
Not sure if that's an issue for me, but it didn't happen on the Windows Partition. And the Gallery doesn't change on different settings.
Through Gameplay it ran perfectly fine for 3 hours or so straight.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Insta: https://instagram.com/jkarajs?igshid=oef2ymrand3g
Sounds like a RAM issue, like the debug error in TS3. Have you tried purging RAM regularly during gameplay? Make sure you pause your game beforehand.
http://bluebellflora.com/resetting-ram-during-gameplay/
I've already started doing this and it's freeing up between 1-2 Gb at a time.