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Pools?
Jongarakun
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Hey, kind of a silly question, but I figured it was worth sitting down and figuring out. Would it be possible to actually make pools? I've been trying to think about it since so many people have been complaining about no pools.
All I can think is that you could clone a bathtub and make a new, simple mesh so that it was square and started at ground level. This way you'd only be able to make a certain size of pool, and ladders would probably just be decoration, but it's worth a thought. The sim would of course end up not swimming in the pool, but bathing in it... it'd be nice for decor, though. Would making the mesh go below ground make it so that it doesn't show up, or would it pull the ground down with it?
The pool wouldn't be full until the sim got in to bathe in it, but maybe there'd be a small bit of code we could edit so that it always had the appearance of a filled tub/pool.
Questions, questions from a newbie object maker. But if this would work in theory, I'd be dying to try it!
All I can think is that you could clone a bathtub and make a new, simple mesh so that it was square and started at ground level. This way you'd only be able to make a certain size of pool, and ladders would probably just be decoration, but it's worth a thought. The sim would of course end up not swimming in the pool, but bathing in it... it'd be nice for decor, though. Would making the mesh go below ground make it so that it doesn't show up, or would it pull the ground down with it?
The pool wouldn't be full until the sim got in to bathe in it, but maybe there'd be a small bit of code we could edit so that it always had the appearance of a filled tub/pool.
Questions, questions from a newbie object maker. But if this would work in theory, I'd be dying to try it!
Ornery weirdo. My Origin ID is Jongarakun.
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I suppose ladders and diving boards could be added as decoration?
Personally, I'll just wait for whichever expansion adds them back in. I always hated pools anyway. XD
Nah, I'm the kind of person who likes to sit around and just think about possibilities. Never used pools, but... the idea of coming up with a substitute is fun for me. X] Ah well, at least the ladder and diving board meshing will keep me somewhat occupied.
I was looking at the fountain in game for a few minutes and kept thinking it would at least be amusing to watch a sim walk into it and splash around or something, the animations for that kind of thing could be pretty amusing.
I can wait, I'm an impatient person but I'll survive.
Though... I will be curious to see what folks come up with
But the pools were useful for upping a Sims athletics without the extra hygiene decay, as I recall. And pool parties were fun. You can't really have a "fountain party" in Sims 4. :p
so true I really never let my sims have children period very few cause it is too much to play with I am so busy building lots and creating Sims that not enough time to have those babies lol.
ive already thought to use fountains as a sub for now w/o fountains because i just cannot for the life of me landscape. arghh
Like toddlers... not impossible, just probably way too much work for your average modder or even mod team. Animation in particular is super time-consuming... more so if you want GOOD animations. As for the gameplay aspect, need to drive sims to the pool (or out of it)... in order to feel like part of the game, swimming has to tie in (at least) with whims, skill effects, moodlets, and needs, maybe even aspirations and career goals. Even harder now that we have to handle multitasking... what other interactions can sims do with other sims while swimming? with sims outside the pool? with objects, including things like cellphones and stuff in their inventory? And then there's routing and pathfinding while swimming...
Lot of work to sort all that out... far as I'm concerned, that's what we pay the devs for
they will have to find a way, probably, to first cut the lots free of the world, and replace it with a sims2 or sims3 style ground skin within the boundaries of the lot itself, making sure the skin fits perfectly with the edge of the lot, where it interacts with the world objects itself.
if they can do that, then it should be very easy to make pools a possability again. of course, a consolation prize could be in the next expansion pack, they add above ground pools in a few styles. that might give them more time.
of course, please note that my view of the world as an object/series of objects is rooted in its simularity to other games, and the fact that this approach, while creating some limitations, hopefully temporary, creates the ability for sims to live in a world of such vibrant detail and complexity, that it is beyond anything we have seen from the main sims franchise for personal computer systems.
Oh thank goodness. I thought I was the only one not really upset about this.
I can tell you as far as the actual game code goes, there's zero mention of pools. So if they did have them working at some point, all traces of that are gone.
I mean, that was a huge thing of mine. For all of my Sim games! You get Hygiene, Fun AND Social all in one go and then you go to work bright, shiny and happy! I haven't even found a reason for it. Unless this works in everyone else's game but my own and I just have some off the wall bug I am not aware of. I almost feel betrayed by this!
I dunno or care about pools and toddlers and patches and mods. Gimme my shower steam back!
> I can tell you as far as the actual game code goes, there's zero mention of pools. So if they did have them working at some point, all traces of that are gone.
I noticed that too. It's just that one empty directory. Hence the "it's probably wise not to read too much into it".
> I thought pools were supposed to be patched in at some point, having been taken out for a pretty good reason. I haven't found anything about this though, is it true? Personally I don't care about pools as I would place them then very quickly, forget about them. I miss hot tubs way more than pools. What really irks me, and I haven't seen many people talking about it: No Woo-hoo in the shower, what the what?!
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> I mean, that was a huge thing of mine. For all of my Sim games! You get Hygiene, Fun AND Social all in one go and then you go to work bright, shiny and happy! I haven't even found a reason for it. Unless this works in everyone else's game but my own and I just have some off the wall bug I am not aware of. I almost feel betrayed by this!
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> I dunno or care about pools and toddlers and patches and mods. Gimme my shower steam back! <3
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Right??? There's no spice in TS4 yet. You can't woohoo anywhere other than a bed...the plum?