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Matt and Shannon Finally Showcased A Bit Of What's Good In TS4!

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Let's give credits where credits are due. Today's SimGurus, Matt and Shannon, were EONS better and actually resemble normal people who play the sims, not just weird bros.

First TS4 stream that did not bore me to tears and in fact it felt a lot closer to what most people play the game, instead of being weird for the sake of being weird.

First time in a long while the game was shown in a more positive light, to my taste.

I liked that the Travel With command works with sims you have barely met. It helps streamline the game play, so plagued with loading screens that chop everything up.

I hated parties had goals (TS4 seem allergic to sandbox), but I was reassured regular parties are still a thing.

Christopher Whitwick looked like a teen, proving once again TS4 lacks not only toddlers, but teens, which are mere variations of adults. Confusing and disappointing.

Hair still looks atrocious, the worst since TS1. But the builds and environments are really beautiful, and so are the sims if you ignore the helmets they wear in lieu of hair.

Clipping is still disgusting and shows how rough and unfinished the game is. After woo-hooing Bella and Mortimer walk right through each other. I guess better routing and smarter sims are other promised features affected by the "things change" policy.

The little boy was downright adorable, to again, give due credits. Cooking is very well done too.

I really hope the last streaming, shows a bit more of family play. It still feels to young-adult-oriented.

Matt and Shannon, good job! Please, come back!

Comments

  • SprinklesBonBonSprinklesBonBon Posts: 2,727 Member
    I missed it...but a friend saw it for me and she said it was fun :)
    Still waiting for Toddlers...
  • zombieghostgirlzombieghostgirl Posts: 419 Member
    They were such preschoolers though - shielding their eyes at the woohoo. C'mon, guys. You're not kids. lolz.
    I study psychology. I am often observing social interaction and human behavioral patterns which means you are all my lab rats each time you post.
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    nekobear wrote: »
    I missed it...but a friend saw it for me and she said it was fun :)

    First fun TS4 video. It was good.
  • ShySimmer88ShySimmer88 Posts: 327 Member
    edited August 2014
    I really enjoyed them out of everyone else so far. They were a lot more lively and entertaining. :p
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    I really enjoyed them out of everyone else so far. They were a lot more lively and entertaining. :p

    Definitely.

  • SimMommy05SimMommy05 Posts: 2,574 Member
    I enjoyed the LB too. Those two reminded me of the people on Youtube who do Let's Plays. They jump right into it and figure things out on screen. It makes for great entertainment.
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    SimMommy05 wrote: »
    I enjoyed the LB too. Those two reminded me of the people on Youtube who do Let's Plays. They jump right into it and figure things out on screen. It makes for great entertainment.

    I agree.

  • Dglbr1969Dglbr1969 Posts: 854 Member
    I must say I enjoyed them too! big thumbs up, and them sheilding their eyes from the woohoo, I think just reaffirms their "playful" side, they definately got giggles out of their gameplay which entertained me no end
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  • nilaniusnilanius Posts: 1,984 Member
    nekobear wrote: »
    I missed it...but a friend saw it for me and she said it was fun :)

    You can watch it still. Goto youtube and look up simsvip, they have it listed at a lets play sims 4, thing for the 28th. I actually quite enjoyed this live stream. I especially loved the throwing a party thing. Sims 2 and 3, I had to really guess at what to do with parties. But with it laying out goals like that, I will most definitely probably try hosting more parties on Sims 4 for my sims.
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  • SimMommy05SimMommy05 Posts: 2,574 Member
    nilanius wrote: »
    nekobear wrote: »
    I missed it...but a friend saw it for me and she said it was fun :)

    You can watch it still. Goto youtube and look up simsvip, they have it listed at a lets play sims 4, thing for the 28th. I actually quite enjoyed this live stream. I especially loved the throwing a party thing. Sims 2 and 3, I had to really guess at what to do with parties. But with it laying out goals like that, I will most definitely probably try hosting more parties on Sims 4 for my sims.

    I agree about goals for parties. I think it'll make it easier to make the guests happy. I also like the fact you can have parties without the goals, too.
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    nilanius wrote: »
    nekobear wrote: »
    I missed it...but a friend saw it for me and she said it was fun :)

    You can watch it still. Goto youtube and look up simsvip, they have it listed at a lets play sims 4, thing for the 28th. I actually quite enjoyed this live stream. I especially loved the throwing a party thing. Sims 2 and 3, I had to really guess at what to do with parties. But with it laying out goals like that, I will most definitely probably try hosting more parties on Sims 4 for my sims.

    I hate the gols. It feels like a dictatorship.

    But regular parties are still avaliable.

    TS4 parties seem good. I like the Gallery element.

    But I hate the goals. It's my party and I'll cry if I want to.

  • nilaniusnilanius Posts: 1,984 Member
    SimMommy05 wrote: »
    nilanius wrote: »
    nekobear wrote: »
    I missed it...but a friend saw it for me and she said it was fun :)

    You can watch it still. Goto youtube and look up simsvip, they have it listed at a lets play sims 4, thing for the 28th. I actually quite enjoyed this live stream. I especially loved the throwing a party thing. Sims 2 and 3, I had to really guess at what to do with parties. But with it laying out goals like that, I will most definitely probably try hosting more parties on Sims 4 for my sims.

    I agree about goals for parties. I think it'll make it easier to make the guests happy. I also like the fact you can have parties without the goals, too.

    Yeah, for me, the goals actually will help me out because otherwise I suck at parties lol. Also, sim kids look fun to play for a change. Sims 2 had really awesome kids, but sims 3 kids were boring and I just wanted to get my sim kids to teens so they had something to do. So it's nice seeing all the interactions kids have. The pregnancy test was also awesome. I wonder if the expecting mother can break the news to the hubby and if he'd get excited, unless he doesn't want kids lol. But I definitely am gonna enjoy having a sim kid practice a musical instrument.

    Also even I chuckled seeing that one sim that was imported in last nights video passing them with his feminine walk. That was just hilarious to me.
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  • VampirspiegeleiVampirspiegelei Posts: 704 Member
    For those who have missed the stream:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWT0mnWvZSA
    ... jinkies oO
  • IvinoraIvinora Posts: 1,165 Member
    I can't watch the streams atm (taking care of sick family member the last few months during weeks and wifi's too crummy here)
    but i'll be home tonight, wich once should i see though? I gathered first one is building, second was just playing, third one seemed to be relations/party's ???
    or should i benchwatch all 3?
  • nilaniusnilanius Posts: 1,984 Member
    Ivinora wrote: »
    I can't watch the streams atm (taking care of sick family member the last few months during weeks and wifi's too crummy here)
    but i'll be home tonight, wich once should i see though? I gathered first one is building, second was just playing, third one seemed to be relations/party's ???
    or should i benchwatch all 3?

    Definitely check out all 3.
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  • sgibson8sgibson8 Posts: 223 Member
    Was this today? i missed it...
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  • InannaWintermoonInannaWintermoon Posts: 3,400 Member
    The goals give it a sad RPG feel to it... where is the sandbox again?
    It's quite drop from the top, so how ya feeling down there?
  • IvinoraIvinora Posts: 1,165 Member
    edited August 2014
    ty nilanius, will do was planning on watching the last 2 anyway because alot of people seem upset about really heavy clipping issues, wasn't sure about building mode one, but i'll take in that extra video too

    Edit: name typo :o bad me
  • nilaniusnilanius Posts: 1,984 Member
    Ivinora wrote: »
    ty nilanius, will do was planning on watching the last 2 anyway because alot of people seem upset about really heavy clipping issues, wasn't sure about building mode one, but i'll take in that extra video too

    Edit: name typo :o bad me

    Honestly, to me, the clipping was really not as bad as some make it out to be. Yes there were a few points where there was a quick clip, but unless you really looked for them, you ended up missing them. Only time something was off for me, was when the guy kept canceling actions at a couch causing the sim to walk in circles around the couch, but that was it. Tonight's video, I also wasn't looking for clipping, and didn't spot them either. All I saw was really fun looking gameplay, and the houses we can build look amazing.
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  • InannaWintermoonInannaWintermoon Posts: 3,400 Member
    edited August 2014
    nilanius wrote: »
    Ivinora wrote: »
    ty nilanius, will do was planning on watching the last 2 anyway because alot of people seem upset about really heavy clipping issues, wasn't sure about building mode one, but i'll take in that extra video too

    Edit: name typo :o bad me

    Honestly, to me, the clipping was really not as bad as some make it out to be. Yes there were a few points where there was a quick clip, but unless you really looked for them, you ended up missing them. Only time something was off for me, was when the guy kept canceling actions at a couch causing the sim to walk in circles around the couch, but that was it. Tonight's video, I also wasn't looking for clipping, and didn't spot them either. All I saw was really fun looking gameplay, and the houses we can build look amazing.

    Okay answer me this how is it okay to replace one bad set of coding with another bad set of coding?
    It's quite drop from the top, so how ya feeling down there?
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    nilanius wrote: »
    Ivinora wrote: »
    ty nilanius, will do was planning on watching the last 2 anyway because alot of people seem upset about really heavy clipping issues, wasn't sure about building mode one, but i'll take in that extra video too

    Edit: name typo :o bad me

    Honestly, to me, the clipping was really not as bad as some make it out to be. Yes there were a few points where there was a quick clip, but unless you really looked for them, you ended up missing them. Only time something was off for me, was when the guy kept canceling actions at a couch causing the sim to walk in circles around the couch, but that was it. Tonight's video, I also wasn't looking for clipping, and didn't spot them either. All I saw was really fun looking gameplay, and the houses we can build look amazing.


    If you were blind, you missed them.

    People with sight were shocked and turned off.
  • VlaxitovVlaxitov Posts: 5,798 Member
    In the TS3 demo videos it would always be one person talking and another person playing.

    Notice that in the TS4 videos they make it seem like they're both playing, that its "we" pretty much every time.

    We need to beg EA to bring multiplayer back to this game. Not "massive multiplayer" but at least some form of multiplayer.

  • natashifiednatashified Posts: 3,314 Member
    I agree with @nilanius, Clipping is one thing that does not bother me. BUT it might bother some people!
  • nilaniusnilanius Posts: 1,984 Member
    nilanius wrote: »
    Ivinora wrote: »
    ty nilanius, will do was planning on watching the last 2 anyway because alot of people seem upset about really heavy clipping issues, wasn't sure about building mode one, but i'll take in that extra video too

    Edit: name typo :o bad me

    Honestly, to me, the clipping was really not as bad as some make it out to be. Yes there were a few points where there was a quick clip, but unless you really looked for them, you ended up missing them. Only time something was off for me, was when the guy kept canceling actions at a couch causing the sim to walk in circles around the couch, but that was it. Tonight's video, I also wasn't looking for clipping, and didn't spot them either. All I saw was really fun looking gameplay, and the houses we can build look amazing.

    Okay answer me this how is it okay to replace one bad set of coding with another bad set of coding?

    Simple I will use the sims 3 as an example for this. You got 5 sims in a room, and 1 bar. One sim goes to make a drink at the bar. 2 decide to go up to each other and begin chatting. You tell the drink fetching sim to return to the other 2 sims he was socializing with. But now, he's screaming instead, and stomping his feet because he can't get past the 2 chatty sims. In that instance, rather than him cancel the interaction, I'd rather he simply clip through them to get back to his buddies. It's not bad coding. MMO's even use it, because games that didn't have clipping, would have groups of players block a bridge and not let anyone by unless they bribed their way past.

    So if you want your sim to do something and there's other sims you can't control that block your path, it's better to clip through them, than to be stuck till they decide their conversation was over. What if one of your important needs reached orange, and the sims keeping you stuck still wont move. You really want your sim to starve to death or fall asleep on the spot, or pee themselves or whatever? Or would you rather your sim slip past the obstacle to take care of their needs? Same thing if your sim has to use the bathroom, and there's a bunch of sims standing in the doorway not letting anyone through because they can't decide who should go through the door first. If they could clip, then all sims could get their bladder needs filled.
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  • InannaWintermoonInannaWintermoon Posts: 3,400 Member
    edited August 2014
    Vlaxitov wrote: »
    In the TS3 demo videos it would always be one person talking and another person playing.

    Notice that in the TS4 videos they make it seem like they're both playing, that its "we" pretty much every time.

    We need to beg EA to bring multiplayer back to this game. Not "massive multiplayer" but at least some form of multiplayer.

    It doesn't even need to be multiplayer it need to be an actual good solid foundation with good coding...not whatever was shoved into TS4.
    It's quite drop from the top, so how ya feeling down there?
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