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A Complete List of Everything Confirmed for the Sims 4 (all in one place!)- Updated 8/17
Moonbarker
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Sims 4 will release September 2 for the pc version in the U.S. and September 5 in the U.K. unless a delay occurs (There's no information for the Mac version yet but I'm pretty sure there will be a Mac version, just not on the same day). The game will be offline and single player but you must be connected to origin in order to first install it. The game will be 32 bit (doesn't EA get with the times?). Anyway, on to the information...
CAS:
-You can mold sims like clay by just grabbing onto the sim and pulling. Or you can select from a selection of face and body presets.
-The only sliders available are the fitness and weight sliders.
-You can adjust the thighs, calves, butt, stomach, breasts (lift and size), shoulders, feet, and even the eye’s irises. You cannot adjust their hands.
-You can adjust your sim’s posture
-No Create A Style (confirmed cannot not be added later)
-No color wheel (confirmed will not be added later)- I call BS on this lol.
-You can decide skin tone, eye color and hair color via presets. Most are natural colors but you can also have blue, green, pink hair as well as blue and green skin.
-No skin tone slider
-No opacity slider for makeup
-There is a feature called “Styled Looks.” It lets you find a full outfit with just a few clicks.
-Smart Randomizer (You can select specific things that you want the game to randomize for you)
-Hats can be put on any hairstyle
-Boots work better with pants (they either go under or over the pants)
-Accessories are not attached to anything
-Can give sims wrinkles
-Formal wear and party wear are separate
-Easier to take off accessories without needing to search for it (hassle in Sims 3)
-Tattoos in the base game. Some parts you can get tattoos at include arm, lower back, and ankle.
-No body hair in the base game
-No favorites (food, music, and color)
-No zodiac signs
-There are 9 Walking styles: Default, Perky, Snooty, Swagger, Feminine, Tough, Goofy, Sluggish, Bouncy. All walk styles can be used for BOTH genders. Emotions can affect your walking style.
-Better facial ethnicities (easier to make sims from all around the world)
-Only CERTAIN hairstyles can be given highlights and those highlight colors are pre-made so you cannot make your own
-You can choose the sim’s voice and pitch. For males: Clear, warm, brash. For females: sweet, melodic, lilted.
-You can choose 3 traits in CAS (one more trait will be given based on your aspiration and you’ll unlock more traits through gameplay)
-Traits: Active, Ambitious, Art Lover, Bookworm, Bro, Cheerful, Childish, Clumsy, Creative, Evil, Family Oriented, Foodie, Geek, Genius, Gloomy, Glutton, Good, Goofball, Hates children, Hotheaded, Insane, Lazy, Loner, Loves Outdoors, Materialistic, Mean Spirited, Music Lover, Neat, Noncommital, Outgoing, Perfectionist, Romantic, Self Assured, Slob, Snob (I want a shy trait
)
-You now have aspirations instead of lifetime wishes.
-Hairstyles are divided into 3 categories: short, medium, and long (aka shoulder length
)
-Clothes are divided into subcategories (seems like CAS is more organized)
-You can see what your sibling, parent, grandparent, child would look like
-There will be no swimwear at all
-Elders can be the parent of children and teenagers
-Your Sims can have more than one set of clothes (3 sets of casual clothes, 2 sets of formal clothes, etc). Maximum number they can have is 5 per category.
-Teens are the same height as young adults-elders and are not distinguishable.
-Babies can't be created in CAS but can be born
-There are no toddlers in the base game. Babies and toddlers are not combined.
-Better genetics.
-You cannot change the length of their eyelashes. There are only eye presets with different eyelash lengths.
-Hairstyles and makeup can still be set differently per outfit
-There is no limit on clothing anymore. For ex, if you want to wear pajamas as your formal wear, you're free to do that.
-You can still add freckles and beauty marks
-There is no height slider
-There are no hair animations (hair will not move)
-You can randomize first and last name separately.
-Children have only one trait. Teenagers have two traits.
-Children have aspirations specific to them
-You cannot make sims be boyfriend and girlfriend in CAS
-No full face makeup
Build Mode: (I don't know a thing about building so.. yeah)
-Buy Mode and Build Mode are combined
-You can move an entire house
-You can move entire rooms
-You can place fully furnished rooms and adjust the shape of the room with the push and pull feature. Objects that are next to the wall will go along with it.
-Furniture will adjust to the room size and excess furniture will be placed in the family inventory
-The height of walls can be set to 3 different heights
-You can add a foundation after you built the entire house. You can choose the height of the foundation from one up to eight.
-Fences can be either straight (diagonal included) or curved
-Columns will now adjust to match the height of walls on the same floor. Columns will also snap to railings automatically without the need to use cheats
-You can place windows throughout the house with the click of a button
-You can mold the shape of the roof. You can curl in the edges (including the eaves) and mold them out
-You can place items off the grid
-You can choose to view the house at either day, dusk, or night
-It’s now possible to build rooms which extend far beyond the floor below it without the use of columns or temporary rooms. You will be able to simply build out as far as the lot size will allow.
-Architectural details can be added including columns, trim along the roof, edging, and spandrels.
-The look of the terrain can be edited with various ‘paints’ to add areas of dirt , different textures of grass and terrain paint with flowers.
-Fountain tool in base game
-It’s still possible to build the traditional way by placing individual walls as opposed to putting down rooms
-The eyedropper (cloning) tool will return
-You can build attics
-You can now adjust the vertical placement of windows, dragging them up and down walls
-Players can select styled rooms from different collections available
-One collection available is the Queen Ann Style
-There are no pools in the base game
-You can adjust the vertical placement of both tvs and mirrors, and Sims would crook their necks however they had in order to view.
-The max floor limit is three.
-You cannot have split level homes
-Houses do not have to have foundations.
-There are no circular stairs.
-Multi level lighting.
-No terrain tools other than paint (all lots are flat).
-There are no basements in the base game.
-Chimneys are now optional.
-All buildings on a lot must either have/have not a foundation. No mixing for sheds, garages, etc.
-There's a household inventory. Objects go there when you drop down stuff that requires removing objects that were in the way. Such as rooms.
-There are no garage doors
-Smoke detector can be moved up and down the wall
-There is no moveobject cheat
Other (I called this section ‘other’ because…well just because xD):
-EMOTIONS!!!!
-MORE TACTILE AND INTUITIVE!!!!
-Smarter sims/sims are more aware of their surroundings (supposedly)
-Better Routing (supposedly. Can't tell if that's true from those STAGED trailers)
-Sims can multi task (sims can exercise and talk at the same time for ex).
-You can socialize in groups. Maximum number of sims in a group is 8.
-Friends/enemies with benefits
-There will be more content to ship in the base game than any other sims game (The Sims 2 and Sims 3 both had 500 objects in the base game. So Sims 4 might come with 501
).
-No weather or pets in the base game
-Separate bar for friendship and romance
-Teens can actually have the “talk” with their parents
-You can have drinks with meals
-There will be no supernaturals in the base game (including ghosts).
-There is auto save. You cannot turn it off but it runs in the background.
-There’s a mods folder so we can place mods straight away
-Sims can only propose while standing (so no dinner proposals )
-Cellphones will be attached to every Sim again
-Sims cannot do laundry
-Sims can have a bro romance (females as well)
-You can hire a maid
-You can no longer use simpoints for the Sims 4 store. The store stuff will be bought directly.
-You can smash dollhouses (how evil!)
-There’s no swimming and no ocean
-Genetics for gardening system
-Consequences for not paying the bills are more severe (Water shuts off and power goes out)
-You cannot choose if your Sim is right handed or left handed but there is a chance your Sim can be left handed depending on the animation of the object. So Sims are ambidextrous.
-No tragic clown, social bunny, or Big Foot
-You can hire entertainers
-Your Sims can throw "singles" parties where you invite all the single Sims.
-There are no private schools.
-Bella and Mortimer Goth are returning
-The Caliente Sisters are returning
-Babs will not be a premade but she will be available in the gallary for those who want to download her.
-Sims 4 will set on an entirely new Timeline that has nothing to do with Sims 1, Sims 2, or Sims 3 so it's like an alternate universe.
-There will be no Sims 2 style cut scenes
-Kids can cuddle with their parents on the couch
-Days are still displayed and Sims will still get days off from work.
-There are weddings, wedding arches, cakes, etc. in the base game. The wedding arch is not just a decor but it can be used.
-Piano, guitar and violin in the base game.
-There are cupcake machines.
-There are bars in the base game and your Sim can be a mixologist.
-Time moves a bit slower than in Sims 3 (according to Sim guru Graham)
-You can send love letters to Sims via PC
-There is no online dating
-Sims have long term memories (if your sim gets into a fight, they will remember it weeks later)
-Fire can pass through walls. Fire can also go up/down most foundation heights, but it won't jump a level from the 1st to the 2nd floor.
-There is no story progression other than aging (sims won't autonomously get married, get jobs, or have kids)
-There are no grocery stores
-Teens can complain about their parents
-No more newspapers. Sims have moved on to computers.
-Sims 4 now has windowed full screen mode in addition to full screen and windowed mode. Windowed and Windowed full screen do disable edge scrolling.
-There are speech bubbles
-Mirrors have a reflection as do water and to an extent windows
-Although it shows in renders, you cannot sit on the edges of chairs/love seats/sofas
-You start off with 20K
-Sims are able to pass each other more easily than in Sims 3 (supposedly)
-Teens will not have acne.
-Sims do not have separate money. They still have family funds.
-There is adoption. You can pick the child from a list.
-Children can make macaroni art.
-You can grow herbs, vegetables, fruits, and flowers. Seeds are delivered to you.
-There are no turn ons/turn offs or attraction system.
-Sims will use a screwdriver to fix the TV in place of a hammer.
-You can have dinner parties.
-They are not stopping people from creating custom content for the game.
-You can take selfies with your phone. Unlike the Sims 3, the background will actually show in the picture. You can also photobomb a picture.
-There is no repoman.
-Sims sweat when they're exercising.
-No hot tubs in the base game.
-No vampires in the base game
-Curtains now move.
-Party and formal wear explained: "Party gets used for Nightclubs, Lounges, in addition to most parties. Formal is for things like weddings and dinner parties." You don't schedule parties in advance any more. They start once you call other Sims to come over to your party. Party goals are optional. There are also no party invitations from other Sims.
-Information on saving: You can save wherever you currently are, and your household's and your household's Sims can be on different lots when you save. When you load the save you'll select which Sim you want to start playing with and you'll load to the lot they're on.
-There are no diseases or illnesses.
-There are no dishwashers, trash compactors, or recycling bins.
-You can bake birthday cakes
-There is no repairman or burglar
-There is no curfew
-No fears
-You can order more than one type of p.i.zza (p.i.zza is censored? ok then)
-Cowplants have life cycles
-There are no portraits and no still life paintings.
-There are no family trees (yes, really)
-You can assign roles to sims during parties
-Enhanced woohoo (decreased hygiene from engaging in it, "unsatisfying" woohoo, etc)
-Capturing memories from screenshots; Sims reminisce and remember how they felt and can recognize Sims in them
-No launcher is required
-No aspiration failures
-No babysitters (as NPC for hire)
-No bartender (as NPC for hire)
-No dreams
-Nighat (Nina and Dina Caliente's mother) is now named Katrina.
-There is no firefighter
The World :
-You can edit the list of townies and put in your own pre mades
-No open world. There will be a loading screen every time you enter a lot.
-There can be only one active lot at a time
-No rabbit hole buildings. Sims will disappear off the edge when they go to work, school, etc.
-The world will be divided into five neighborhoods and a bonus lot that is a park
-Each neighborhood contains 2-5 lots
-Public spaces cannot be edited
-The name of the world is Willow Creek
-Edit town is replaced by a tool called Manage Worlds
-Gardeners are only found on public spaces. You cannot hire a gardener for your home.
-Public spaces do not require a loading screen
-Sims load directly onto the sidewalk of the active lot
-The steamboat and tram are only décor. You can't use them.
-You can move to other worlds and neighborhoods without losing things like relationships
-There can be up to 20 sims on public space
-Maximum sims per household is still 8.
-Willow Creek does not have an ocean
-Willow Creek does not have a desert
-Rotational gameplay/Playing multiple families in one world is supported
-Players can turn off aging, set only played families to age, set only the active family to age, or set the entire world to age
-Players can edit community lots, residential lots, and empty lots
-Players cannot place empty lots
-There are areas that are "poor" and "rich." Sims 4 also has some trailer park homes.
-There will be no stilted foundations in the base game.
-You can have multiple save files in a world.
-You can still visit another sim's house (with loading screen I believe)
-Maximum lot size is 50x50
-There is a second world in the base game: Oasis Springs, a desert town.
-Sims won't autonomously enter an unloaded lot.
-There are no apartments in the base game.
-Lots confirmed are gyms, libraries, bars, museums, and parks.
-There are no houseboats
-There is a full world map. When traveling, you choose a lot from the map.
-In your current neighborhood, you can click on other lots and neighborhoods without going to "map view" first.
-There is a loading screen when traveling between neighborhoods.
-There are no ice cream vans or food stands.
-The public lots are auto-cleaned.
-There are no cars, bikes, skateboards, or skates. Sims either walk, use the phone, or map to travel.
-Backgrounds are illusions. The buildings in the background are not playable in the game.
-No bookstores
-No cemeteries
Pregnancy/Babies
-Pregnant Sims waddle
-Pregnant Sims experience different emotions than other Sims.
-Pregnancy can last from 3 days to 5 days
-No more maternity wear for pregnant Sims. They can wear whatever you want.
-If you get another Sim in the neighborhood pregnant, they'll give birth eventually without you having to play them.
-Sims can still have babies at the hospital. You can choose "Have Baby" at home or "Go to the hospital"
-Babies have legs.
-Sims can now breastfeed but only while standing (do Sims have arms of steel? :shock: ). It also has a blur. You can still feed them with the bottle if you prefer.
-The baby's bottle is white now, not green.
-There are no baby showers yet.
-Your sim can take a pregnancy test on the toilet. It costs $15. (the pregnancy jingle when you succeeded in trying for baby is gone)
-Babies are objects now like in Sims 1. They are stuck in a bassinet until you age them up. You can interact with them by clicking on the crib. You cannot carry them around.
-Maternity leave is not mandatory
-Pregnancy comes in different shapes and sizes depending on your sims body type
Skills
-Skills confirmed: Piano, Violin, Guitar, Hacking, Cooking, Gardening, Writing, Painting, Mixology, Video Gaming, Woodworking, Comedy
-The cooking skill is split into Homestyle and Gourmet.
-Sims can craft furniture and it's tied to the handiness skill.
-Sims can mentor other Sims on skills, like the piano
-Children can learn certain skills such as the piano and violin.
Careers/Jobs
-Careers Confirmed: Entertainer (Musician/Comedian), Writer (Author/Journalist), Painter (Master of the Real/Patron of the arts), Secret Agent (Diamond Agent/Villain), Criminal (Boss/Oracle), Astronomer (Space Ranger/Smuggler), Culinary (Chef/Mixologist), Tech Guru (eSport Gamer, Start-up Entrepreneur)
-There is NO: Medical Career, Law Enforcement Career, Political Career, Business Career, Athletic Career, or Science Career.
-There is no stylist career.
-Sims in the criminal career can pickpocket other Sims.
-Your Sim can go into space when they reach level 10 of the military career (just a rabbithole).
-There are chance cards while your sim is at work like in the Sims 2
-Your Sims cannot be hired for the npc jobs such as maids.
Deaths
-New death: Laughing to death
-There is no death by depression.
-You can smack down the grim reaper's ipad and demand for your dead sim back.
-Dyeing from an emotion is rare. A Sim guru confirmed that you are more likely to die from fire. You really have to push them to the limits.
-No more random deaths (you get a warning when your sim is about to die like if they were about to get hit by a meteor for ex).
Other (whims/needs/etc)
-Needs confirmed: Energy, Hunger, Bladder, Hygiene, Fun, and Social.
-Categories for the informational panel are Aspirations, Needs, Skills, Relationships, Career, Inventory, Simology (Simology contains the age bar, the sims's traits, the sim's stats, etc.)
-The interaction queue is still there and you can queue up a bunch of stuff.
-You can change your sim's aspiration at any time.
-Sims can have more than one aspiration
-Lifetime rewards from the Sims 3 will be called Aspiration rewards, which you can buy with satisfaction.
-The plumbomb above your sim changes color based on their needs (not on their emotion)
-White Plumbombs indicate who is in your conversation.
-You now have whims instead of wishes. You cannot lock them.
-You can have your sim Cry Under the Covers when they are sad.
-You can hover over a whim and it will tell you WHY your sim wants to do it.
-There's a small x button when hovering over each whim if you want to remove a current whim and get a new one.
-There are still moodlets. Moodlets affect your emotion and vice versa.
-The UI is white now as shown in the 20 min gameplay video.
-There is a white glow around sims and objects when you go to them as shown on the live mode gameplay video (one thing I really don't like).
-There are no click-on heads as shown in the 20 min gameplay video.
Gallary:
-The gallery replaces the exchange
-Allows players to add the creations of others directly into their game
-Players can upload rooms, community lots, residential lots, and Sims
-Sims added through the gallery become part of the active household
-Creators can flag their CC creations in the gallery (so CC is not guaranteed to stay out of your game. If someone did not flag their creation, the person who downloads it will have to take the fall. Oh well.. I'm sure it'll still be tactile and intuitive)
-Players can leave comments on creations
-The creations lists the original creator and the modifiers if someone else modifies it and uploads it
-Players have to be connected to the internet to use the gallery
-To get a house off the gallery your sim needs to have enough simoleons in order to place it and live in it.
Things that have been confirmed at one point but then deconfirmed (after all.. “things change” )
-Last year they confirmed that all 7 life stages would be in the game. Yet they removed toddlers.
-Woohoo skill is removed
-There is no clothes shopping. If I recall, it was confirmed that clothes can have price tags on them and your sim can’t afford the more expensive stuff until they’ve made some simoleons. I’m not sure if they actually confirmed there would be clothes shopping as in actually going to the store to shop but I understand people’s frustration with this when they “de-confirmed” it.
-Sims cannot get pregnant during regular woohoo. A sim guru said on twitter that your sim can get pregnant during woohoo but now she said you can't.
-They said that color would affect the sims mood (for ex, a red dress will make a sim feel more flirty) but now a sim guru has confirmed that color does not affect the sims emotions. (This further raises the question of why they decided to completely get rid of the color wheel).
I don't know if anyone cares about having this list but.. here it is! lol. Feel free to tell me if I made any mistakes or if I missed something
. You can discuss but please be respectful of each other in this thread and no bashing. Thanks!
Also, here is the official gameplay walkthrough trailer. It's about 20 min long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN2ue9y7_2M
The Sims 4 minimum system requirements:
http://simsvip.com/2014/07/25/the-sims-4-minimum-system-requirements/
*Despite them saying that the routing is better in Sims 4, it has NOT been fixed. On this gameplay video, it shows a sim yelling he can't get by and them cancelling the action in order to talk to the woman like you would expect in the past sim games. It's at around 8:23 or so. (we don't know what will happen in the full game yet so they may still be working on fixing it. Only time will tell. Note that I've also seen a lot of clipping with sims and such, in other videos).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfDW9L0Qstc
CAS:
-You can mold sims like clay by just grabbing onto the sim and pulling. Or you can select from a selection of face and body presets.
-The only sliders available are the fitness and weight sliders.
-You can adjust the thighs, calves, butt, stomach, breasts (lift and size), shoulders, feet, and even the eye’s irises. You cannot adjust their hands.
-You can adjust your sim’s posture
-No Create A Style (confirmed cannot not be added later)
-No color wheel (confirmed will not be added later)- I call BS on this lol.
-You can decide skin tone, eye color and hair color via presets. Most are natural colors but you can also have blue, green, pink hair as well as blue and green skin.
-No skin tone slider
-No opacity slider for makeup
-There is a feature called “Styled Looks.” It lets you find a full outfit with just a few clicks.
-Smart Randomizer (You can select specific things that you want the game to randomize for you)
-Hats can be put on any hairstyle
-Boots work better with pants (they either go under or over the pants)
-Accessories are not attached to anything
-Can give sims wrinkles
-Formal wear and party wear are separate
-Easier to take off accessories without needing to search for it (hassle in Sims 3)
-Tattoos in the base game. Some parts you can get tattoos at include arm, lower back, and ankle.
-No body hair in the base game
-No favorites (food, music, and color)
-No zodiac signs
-There are 9 Walking styles: Default, Perky, Snooty, Swagger, Feminine, Tough, Goofy, Sluggish, Bouncy. All walk styles can be used for BOTH genders. Emotions can affect your walking style.
-Better facial ethnicities (easier to make sims from all around the world)
-Only CERTAIN hairstyles can be given highlights and those highlight colors are pre-made so you cannot make your own
-You can choose the sim’s voice and pitch. For males: Clear, warm, brash. For females: sweet, melodic, lilted.
-You can choose 3 traits in CAS (one more trait will be given based on your aspiration and you’ll unlock more traits through gameplay)
-Traits: Active, Ambitious, Art Lover, Bookworm, Bro, Cheerful, Childish, Clumsy, Creative, Evil, Family Oriented, Foodie, Geek, Genius, Gloomy, Glutton, Good, Goofball, Hates children, Hotheaded, Insane, Lazy, Loner, Loves Outdoors, Materialistic, Mean Spirited, Music Lover, Neat, Noncommital, Outgoing, Perfectionist, Romantic, Self Assured, Slob, Snob (I want a shy trait
)-You now have aspirations instead of lifetime wishes.
-Hairstyles are divided into 3 categories: short, medium, and long (aka shoulder length
)-Clothes are divided into subcategories (seems like CAS is more organized)
-You can see what your sibling, parent, grandparent, child would look like
-There will be no swimwear at all
-Elders can be the parent of children and teenagers
-Your Sims can have more than one set of clothes (3 sets of casual clothes, 2 sets of formal clothes, etc). Maximum number they can have is 5 per category.
-Teens are the same height as young adults-elders and are not distinguishable.
-Babies can't be created in CAS but can be born
-There are no toddlers in the base game. Babies and toddlers are not combined.
-Better genetics.
-You cannot change the length of their eyelashes. There are only eye presets with different eyelash lengths.
-Hairstyles and makeup can still be set differently per outfit
-There is no limit on clothing anymore. For ex, if you want to wear pajamas as your formal wear, you're free to do that.
-You can still add freckles and beauty marks
-There is no height slider
-There are no hair animations (hair will not move)
-You can randomize first and last name separately.
-Children have only one trait. Teenagers have two traits.
-Children have aspirations specific to them
-You cannot make sims be boyfriend and girlfriend in CAS
-No full face makeup
Build Mode: (I don't know a thing about building so.. yeah)
-Buy Mode and Build Mode are combined
-You can move an entire house
-You can move entire rooms
-You can place fully furnished rooms and adjust the shape of the room with the push and pull feature. Objects that are next to the wall will go along with it.
-Furniture will adjust to the room size and excess furniture will be placed in the family inventory
-The height of walls can be set to 3 different heights
-You can add a foundation after you built the entire house. You can choose the height of the foundation from one up to eight.
-Fences can be either straight (diagonal included) or curved
-Columns will now adjust to match the height of walls on the same floor. Columns will also snap to railings automatically without the need to use cheats
-You can place windows throughout the house with the click of a button
-You can mold the shape of the roof. You can curl in the edges (including the eaves) and mold them out
-You can place items off the grid
-You can choose to view the house at either day, dusk, or night
-It’s now possible to build rooms which extend far beyond the floor below it without the use of columns or temporary rooms. You will be able to simply build out as far as the lot size will allow.
-Architectural details can be added including columns, trim along the roof, edging, and spandrels.
-The look of the terrain can be edited with various ‘paints’ to add areas of dirt , different textures of grass and terrain paint with flowers.
-Fountain tool in base game
-It’s still possible to build the traditional way by placing individual walls as opposed to putting down rooms
-The eyedropper (cloning) tool will return
-You can build attics
-You can now adjust the vertical placement of windows, dragging them up and down walls
-Players can select styled rooms from different collections available
-One collection available is the Queen Ann Style
-There are no pools in the base game
-You can adjust the vertical placement of both tvs and mirrors, and Sims would crook their necks however they had in order to view.
-The max floor limit is three.
-You cannot have split level homes
-Houses do not have to have foundations.
-There are no circular stairs.
-Multi level lighting.
-No terrain tools other than paint (all lots are flat).
-There are no basements in the base game.
-Chimneys are now optional.
-All buildings on a lot must either have/have not a foundation. No mixing for sheds, garages, etc.
-There's a household inventory. Objects go there when you drop down stuff that requires removing objects that were in the way. Such as rooms.
-There are no garage doors
-Smoke detector can be moved up and down the wall
-There is no moveobject cheat
Other (I called this section ‘other’ because…well just because xD):
-EMOTIONS!!!!
-MORE TACTILE AND INTUITIVE!!!!
-Smarter sims/sims are more aware of their surroundings (supposedly)
-Better Routing (supposedly. Can't tell if that's true from those STAGED trailers)
-Sims can multi task (sims can exercise and talk at the same time for ex).
-You can socialize in groups. Maximum number of sims in a group is 8.
-Friends/enemies with benefits
-There will be more content to ship in the base game than any other sims game (The Sims 2 and Sims 3 both had 500 objects in the base game. So Sims 4 might come with 501
).-No weather or pets in the base game
-Separate bar for friendship and romance
-Teens can actually have the “talk” with their parents
-You can have drinks with meals
-There will be no supernaturals in the base game (including ghosts).
-There is auto save. You cannot turn it off but it runs in the background.
-There’s a mods folder so we can place mods straight away
-Sims can only propose while standing (so no dinner proposals
)-Cellphones will be attached to every Sim again
-Sims cannot do laundry
-Sims can have a bro romance (females as well)
-You can hire a maid
-You can no longer use simpoints for the Sims 4 store. The store stuff will be bought directly.
-You can smash dollhouses (how evil!)
-There’s no swimming and no ocean
-Genetics for gardening system
-Consequences for not paying the bills are more severe (Water shuts off and power goes out)
-You cannot choose if your Sim is right handed or left handed but there is a chance your Sim can be left handed depending on the animation of the object. So Sims are ambidextrous.
-No tragic clown, social bunny, or Big Foot
-You can hire entertainers
-Your Sims can throw "singles" parties where you invite all the single Sims.
-There are no private schools.
-Bella and Mortimer Goth are returning
-The Caliente Sisters are returning
-Babs will not be a premade but she will be available in the gallary for those who want to download her.
-Sims 4 will set on an entirely new Timeline that has nothing to do with Sims 1, Sims 2, or Sims 3 so it's like an alternate universe.
-There will be no Sims 2 style cut scenes
-Kids can cuddle with their parents on the couch
-Days are still displayed and Sims will still get days off from work.
-There are weddings, wedding arches, cakes, etc. in the base game. The wedding arch is not just a decor but it can be used.
-Piano, guitar and violin in the base game.
-There are cupcake machines.
-There are bars in the base game and your Sim can be a mixologist.
-Time moves a bit slower than in Sims 3 (according to Sim guru Graham)
-You can send love letters to Sims via PC
-There is no online dating
-Sims have long term memories (if your sim gets into a fight, they will remember it weeks later)
-Fire can pass through walls. Fire can also go up/down most foundation heights, but it won't jump a level from the 1st to the 2nd floor.
-There is no story progression other than aging (sims won't autonomously get married, get jobs, or have kids)
-There are no grocery stores
-Teens can complain about their parents
-No more newspapers. Sims have moved on to computers.
-Sims 4 now has windowed full screen mode in addition to full screen and windowed mode. Windowed and Windowed full screen do disable edge scrolling.
-There are speech bubbles
-Mirrors have a reflection as do water and to an extent windows
-Although it shows in renders, you cannot sit on the edges of chairs/love seats/sofas
-You start off with 20K
-Sims are able to pass each other more easily than in Sims 3 (supposedly)
-Teens will not have acne.
-Sims do not have separate money. They still have family funds.
-There is adoption. You can pick the child from a list.
-Children can make macaroni art.
-You can grow herbs, vegetables, fruits, and flowers. Seeds are delivered to you.
-There are no turn ons/turn offs or attraction system.
-Sims will use a screwdriver to fix the TV in place of a hammer.
-You can have dinner parties.
-They are not stopping people from creating custom content for the game.
-You can take selfies with your phone. Unlike the Sims 3, the background will actually show in the picture. You can also photobomb a picture.
-There is no repoman.
-Sims sweat when they're exercising.
-No hot tubs in the base game.
-No vampires in the base game
-Curtains now move.
-Party and formal wear explained: "Party gets used for Nightclubs, Lounges, in addition to most parties. Formal is for things like weddings and dinner parties." You don't schedule parties in advance any more. They start once you call other Sims to come over to your party. Party goals are optional. There are also no party invitations from other Sims.
-Information on saving: You can save wherever you currently are, and your household's and your household's Sims can be on different lots when you save. When you load the save you'll select which Sim you want to start playing with and you'll load to the lot they're on.
-There are no diseases or illnesses.
-There are no dishwashers, trash compactors, or recycling bins.
-You can bake birthday cakes
-There is no repairman or burglar
-There is no curfew
-No fears
-You can order more than one type of p.i.zza (p.i.zza is censored? ok then)
-Cowplants have life cycles
-There are no portraits and no still life paintings.
-There are no family trees (yes, really)
-You can assign roles to sims during parties
-Enhanced woohoo (decreased hygiene from engaging in it, "unsatisfying" woohoo, etc)
-Capturing memories from screenshots; Sims reminisce and remember how they felt and can recognize Sims in them
-No launcher is required
-No aspiration failures
-No babysitters (as NPC for hire)
-No bartender (as NPC for hire)
-No dreams
-Nighat (Nina and Dina Caliente's mother) is now named Katrina.
-There is no firefighter
The World :
-You can edit the list of townies and put in your own pre mades
-No open world. There will be a loading screen every time you enter a lot.
-There can be only one active lot at a time
-No rabbit hole buildings. Sims will disappear off the edge when they go to work, school, etc.
-The world will be divided into five neighborhoods and a bonus lot that is a park
-Each neighborhood contains 2-5 lots
-Public spaces cannot be edited
-The name of the world is Willow Creek
-Edit town is replaced by a tool called Manage Worlds
-Gardeners are only found on public spaces. You cannot hire a gardener for your home.
-Public spaces do not require a loading screen
-Sims load directly onto the sidewalk of the active lot
-The steamboat and tram are only décor. You can't use them.
-You can move to other worlds and neighborhoods without losing things like relationships
-There can be up to 20 sims on public space
-Maximum sims per household is still 8.
-Willow Creek does not have an ocean
-Willow Creek does not have a desert
-Rotational gameplay/Playing multiple families in one world is supported
-Players can turn off aging, set only played families to age, set only the active family to age, or set the entire world to age
-Players can edit community lots, residential lots, and empty lots
-Players cannot place empty lots
-There are areas that are "poor" and "rich." Sims 4 also has some trailer park homes.
-There will be no stilted foundations in the base game.
-You can have multiple save files in a world.
-You can still visit another sim's house (with loading screen I believe)
-Maximum lot size is 50x50
-There is a second world in the base game: Oasis Springs, a desert town.
-Sims won't autonomously enter an unloaded lot.
-There are no apartments in the base game.
-Lots confirmed are gyms, libraries, bars, museums, and parks.
-There are no houseboats
-There is a full world map. When traveling, you choose a lot from the map.
-In your current neighborhood, you can click on other lots and neighborhoods without going to "map view" first.
-There is a loading screen when traveling between neighborhoods.
-There are no ice cream vans or food stands.
-The public lots are auto-cleaned.
-There are no cars, bikes, skateboards, or skates. Sims either walk, use the phone, or map to travel.
-Backgrounds are illusions. The buildings in the background are not playable in the game.
-No bookstores
-No cemeteries
Pregnancy/Babies
-Pregnant Sims waddle
-Pregnant Sims experience different emotions than other Sims.
-Pregnancy can last from 3 days to 5 days
-No more maternity wear for pregnant Sims. They can wear whatever you want.
-If you get another Sim in the neighborhood pregnant, they'll give birth eventually without you having to play them.
-Sims can still have babies at the hospital. You can choose "Have Baby" at home or "Go to the hospital"
-Babies have legs.
-Sims can now breastfeed but only while standing (do Sims have arms of steel? :shock: ). It also has a blur. You can still feed them with the bottle if you prefer.
-The baby's bottle is white now, not green.
-There are no baby showers yet.
-Your sim can take a pregnancy test on the toilet. It costs $15. (the pregnancy jingle when you succeeded in trying for baby is gone)
-Babies are objects now like in Sims 1. They are stuck in a bassinet until you age them up. You can interact with them by clicking on the crib. You cannot carry them around.
-Maternity leave is not mandatory
-Pregnancy comes in different shapes and sizes depending on your sims body type
Skills
-Skills confirmed: Piano, Violin, Guitar, Hacking, Cooking, Gardening, Writing, Painting, Mixology, Video Gaming, Woodworking, Comedy
-The cooking skill is split into Homestyle and Gourmet.
-Sims can craft furniture and it's tied to the handiness skill.
-Sims can mentor other Sims on skills, like the piano
-Children can learn certain skills such as the piano and violin.
Careers/Jobs
-Careers Confirmed: Entertainer (Musician/Comedian), Writer (Author/Journalist), Painter (Master of the Real/Patron of the arts), Secret Agent (Diamond Agent/Villain), Criminal (Boss/Oracle), Astronomer (Space Ranger/Smuggler), Culinary (Chef/Mixologist), Tech Guru (eSport Gamer, Start-up Entrepreneur)
-There is NO: Medical Career, Law Enforcement Career, Political Career, Business Career, Athletic Career, or Science Career.
-There is no stylist career.
-Sims in the criminal career can pickpocket other Sims.
-Your Sim can go into space when they reach level 10 of the military career (just a rabbithole).
-There are chance cards while your sim is at work like in the Sims 2
-Your Sims cannot be hired for the npc jobs such as maids.
Deaths
-New death: Laughing to death
-There is no death by depression.
-You can smack down the grim reaper's ipad and demand for your dead sim back.
-Dyeing from an emotion is rare. A Sim guru confirmed that you are more likely to die from fire. You really have to push them to the limits.
-No more random deaths (you get a warning when your sim is about to die like if they were about to get hit by a meteor for ex).
Other (whims/needs/etc)
-Needs confirmed: Energy, Hunger, Bladder, Hygiene, Fun, and Social.
-Categories for the informational panel are Aspirations, Needs, Skills, Relationships, Career, Inventory, Simology (Simology contains the age bar, the sims's traits, the sim's stats, etc.)
-The interaction queue is still there and you can queue up a bunch of stuff.
-You can change your sim's aspiration at any time.
-Sims can have more than one aspiration
-Lifetime rewards from the Sims 3 will be called Aspiration rewards, which you can buy with satisfaction.
-The plumbomb above your sim changes color based on their needs (not on their emotion)
-White Plumbombs indicate who is in your conversation.
-You now have whims instead of wishes. You cannot lock them.
-You can have your sim Cry Under the Covers when they are sad.
-You can hover over a whim and it will tell you WHY your sim wants to do it.
-There's a small x button when hovering over each whim if you want to remove a current whim and get a new one.
-There are still moodlets. Moodlets affect your emotion and vice versa.
-The UI is white now as shown in the 20 min gameplay video.
-There is a white glow around sims and objects when you go to them as shown on the live mode gameplay video (one thing I really don't like).
-There are no click-on heads as shown in the 20 min gameplay video.
Gallary:
-The gallery replaces the exchange
-Allows players to add the creations of others directly into their game
-Players can upload rooms, community lots, residential lots, and Sims
-Sims added through the gallery become part of the active household
-Creators can flag their CC creations in the gallery (so CC is not guaranteed to stay out of your game. If someone did not flag their creation, the person who downloads it will have to take the fall. Oh well.. I'm sure it'll still be tactile and intuitive)
-Players can leave comments on creations
-The creations lists the original creator and the modifiers if someone else modifies it and uploads it
-Players have to be connected to the internet to use the gallery
-To get a house off the gallery your sim needs to have enough simoleons in order to place it and live in it.
Things that have been confirmed at one point but then deconfirmed (after all.. “things change”
)-Last year they confirmed that all 7 life stages would be in the game. Yet they removed toddlers.
-Woohoo skill is removed
-There is no clothes shopping. If I recall, it was confirmed that clothes can have price tags on them and your sim can’t afford the more expensive stuff until they’ve made some simoleons. I’m not sure if they actually confirmed there would be clothes shopping as in actually going to the store to shop but I understand people’s frustration with this when they “de-confirmed” it.
-Sims cannot get pregnant during regular woohoo. A sim guru said on twitter that your sim can get pregnant during woohoo but now she said you can't.
-They said that color would affect the sims mood (for ex, a red dress will make a sim feel more flirty) but now a sim guru has confirmed that color does not affect the sims emotions. (This further raises the question of why they decided to completely get rid of the color wheel).
I don't know if anyone cares about having this list but.. here it is! lol. Feel free to tell me if I made any mistakes or if I missed something
. You can discuss but please be respectful of each other in this thread and no bashing. Thanks!Also, here is the official gameplay walkthrough trailer. It's about 20 min long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN2ue9y7_2MThe Sims 4 minimum system requirements:
http://simsvip.com/2014/07/25/the-sims-4-minimum-system-requirements/
*Despite them saying that the routing is better in Sims 4, it has NOT been fixed. On this gameplay video, it shows a sim yelling he can't get by and them cancelling the action in order to talk to the woman like you would expect in the past sim games. It's at around 8:23 or so. (we don't know what will happen in the full game yet so they may still be working on fixing it. Only time will tell. Note that I've also seen a lot of clipping with sims and such, in other videos).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfDW9L0Qstc Post edited by Moonbarker on
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Also, the Gurus said the article that stated Sims would be right or left handed was not true. There were several things in that article that were not going to be in the game. I wouldn't trust anything from that one article as confirmed.
Um a guru confirmed no left or right handed sims on twitter:
And I never said pets and weather were confirmed to be in the base game. I said pets and weather have been confirmed NOT to be in the base game.
True but that's all what has been confirmed by a guru. They may backtrack on some of these and they may not.
Also, the article that mentioned Sims could be right or left handed wasn't trusted in the first place because the article already had made many mistakes. The Gurus even said the article was not correct.
Well many people were disappointed about the left and right handed thing and thought that was something they "de-confirmed." Everybody makes mistakes. I'll change it now.
Thanks, I added those
One thing I think should be added to the build section is that you can now adjust the vertical placement of windows, dragging them up & down walls just like artwork. We saw this in the build mode trailer.
Also, I don't know if it's been officially confirmed or not, but I remember reading somewhere you that you could adjust the vertical placement of both tvs and mirrors, and Sims would crook their necks however they had in order to view.
CAS
-Teens are the same height as adults
-No more maternity wear for pregnant sims.
-Better genetics
-Sims can have a bromance trait
-Babies can’t be created in CAS but can be born
-Toddlers are not available in the game
Build Mode
-Buy Mode and Build Mode are combined
-Furniture will adjust to the room size and excess furniture will be placed in the family inventory
-Players can select styled rooms from different collections available
-One collection available is the Queen Ann style
-Pools are not available
Other (I called this section ‘other’ because…well just because xD):
-The game is offline and single-player (no need for internet connection to play)
-EMOTIONS!!!!
-MORE TACTILE AND INTUITIVE!!!!
-Smarter sims/sims are more aware of their surroundings
-Better Routing (supposedly. Can't tell if that's true from those STAGED trailers)
-Sims can multi task
-You can socialize in groups
-Friends/enemies with benefits
-There will be more content to ship in the base game than any other sims game (The Sims 2 and Sims 3 both had 500 objects in the base game. So Sims 4 might come with 501 ).
-No weather or pets in the base game
-Sims can breastfeed but only while standing (do sims have arms of steel? )
-Separate bar for friendship and romance
-Babies have legs (but still no clothes )
-Sims can have more than one aspiration
-Teens can have the “talk” with their parents (I’m guessing that means woohoo.. I’m so gonna embarrass my teens with this interaction xD).
-You can have drinks with meals
-The cooking skill is separated to Homestyle and Gourmet cooking
-There will be no supernaturals in the base game (it’s unclear if this includes ghosts too)
-Sims can get pregnant by regular woohoo
-Autosave (optional)
-There’s a mods folder so we can place mods straight away
-Sims can only propose while standing (so no dinner proposals )
-Cellphones will be attached to every sim again
-Sims cannot do laundry
-The game will be 32 bit (doesn’t EA get with the times?)
-You cannot hire a gardener for your home.
-You can hire a maid
-You can no longer use simpoints for the Sims 4 store. The store stuff will be bought directly.
-You can be a stand up comedian (not sure if any other careers have been confirmed)
-You can smash dollhouses (how evil!)
-There’s no swimming and no ocean
-Genetics for gardening system
-Sims can mentor other sims on skills, like the piano
-Sims can still have babies at the hospital. You can choose "Have Baby" at home or "Go to the hospital"
-Consequences for not paying the bills are more severe (Water shuts off and power goes out)
-Sims are neither right handed or left handed
-No tragic clown or social bunny
The World
-You can edit the list of townies and put in your own pre mades
-No open world. There will be a loading screen every time you enter a lot.
-There can be only one active lot at a time
-No rabbit hole buildings. Sims will disappear off the edge when they go to work, school, etc.
-The world will be divided into five neighborhoods and a bonus lot that is a park
-Each neighborhood contains 2-5 lots
-Public spaces cannot be edited
-The name of the world is Willow Creek
-Edit town is replaced by a tool called Manage Worlds
-Gardeners are only found on public spaces
-Public spaces do not require a loading screen
-Sims load directly onto the sidewalk of the active lot
-The tram is only décor
-You can move to other worlds and neighborhods without losing things like relationships (Thank heavens!)
-There can be up to 20 sims and public space
- Still has 8 sims per household limit
-Willow Creek does not have an ocean
-Willow Creek does not have a desert
-Rotational gameplay/Playing multiple families in one world is supported
-Players can turn off aging, set only played families to age, set only the active family to age, or set the entire world to age
-Story Progression will return
- Players can edit community lots, residential lots, and empty lots
-Players cannot place empty lots
Gallery
-The gallery replaces the exchange
-Allows players to add the creations of others directly into their game
-Players can upload rooms, community lots, residential lots, and Sims
-Sims added though the gallery become part of the active household
-Creators can flag their CC creations in the gallery
-Players can leave comments on creations
-The creations lists the original creator and the modifiers if someone else modifies it and uploads it
-Players have to be connected to the internet to use the gallery
I think that Loner kinda includes Shy trait.
"Loner - These Sims become Happy when alone, do not receive negative Moodlets when their Social Need is low, become Tense around strangers, and become Embarrassed more often by social rejection."
Yes but shy is really not the same as loner. A shy person would act shy around people they don't know, but that does not mean they want to be alone. They may like the company but they're just too shy to talk to people as easily. They are not happy being alone. Think about it, do you know any shy person that actually wants to stay alone, and doesn't wanna break out of their shell once in a while? Well I guess, sure some of them are loners but not all are anti-social as some people may think. They WANT to talk to people but they just can't because they're shy. I think they made the same mistake with the Sims 3, including loner in the base game but not shy (thinking that loner is the same thing) but then they included shy in the late night expansion pack. Oh and you're welcome for the thread
It makes my so much more excited, if that is possible.
Love sims 4 all the more.
Such a list is so amazing.
No problem and thank you
This list is too useful to let sink so quickly.
Did you pull the list of traits just from the demo or was there a list posted somewhere?
The moodlets are not influenced by emotions. Something happens that gives the sim a moodlet then the total strength of the moodlets will influence your sims emotions. So, for instance, if your sim has two sad moodlets of +5 each and one inspired moodlet of +20, your sim will feel inspired because that's the strongest moodlet.
I'm not a psychopath. I'm a high-functioning psychopath. Reaper
Then what did Graham mean by this?
http://simsvip.com/2014/07/20/the-sims-4-weekend-guru-tweets/
The idea of a “chameleon buff” will be much easier to explain and understand with the game running in front of you. I’ll try and give an overview though. The Happy emotion is special in that it can modify other positive emotions. If your Sim only has a +10 Happy moodlet, then they’re Happy. But if they have a +10 Happy moodlet, and a +5 Playful moodlet, then they’re Playful (even though the Happy moodlet is stronger).
This is because the Happy emotion acts as a boost to any other positive emotions your Sim is feeling. You can see examples of this throughout the demo – the moodlets with the green plus symbols above them are actually Happy moodlets that were modified to boost another positive emotion. What we’ve changed since then was to make the moodlet’s color a gradient, so the background would look like green fading to purple to show happy -> playful. I know that all sounds complicated and confusing – it was overwhelming when it was first explained to me as well. Once you play with it in-game though it feels totally natural and easy to understand.
I would love for someone to explain it to me, because I'm still puzzled by the lower score moodlet being dominant and then the notion of shared dominance that is being countered elsewhere.