Things that could be included for Sims 4 and 5

Conlon94

Could the game designers and game developers for Sims 4 and Sims 5 consider exploring, incorporating and using these ideas? SECTORS
Accommodation and Food Services.
Administration, Business Support and Waste Management Services.
Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing and Hunting.
Arts, Entertainment and Recreation.
Finance and Insurance.
Healthcare and Social Assistance.
Manufacturing.
Mining. And there various areas of industry subcategories. Corporate ladder
Chief executive officer
Chief operating officer
Chief financial officer
Chief information officer
Chief innovation officer
Chief strategy officer
Chief compliance officer
Chief marketing officer
Chief talent officer
Chief human resources officer
Chief user experience officer
President
Partner
Chairman
Superintendent
Vice president
General manager
Director
Manager
Supervisor
Assistant manager
Associate
Governments: Legislative—Makes laws (Congress, comprised of the House of Representatives and Senate)
Executive—Carries out laws (president, vice president, Cabinet, most federal agencies)
Judicial—Evaluates laws (Supreme Court and other courts) Local town and city government/governments- county government/governments have-state/territorie government/governments-centeralized federal/National government/governments-International government/governments-more futuristic science fiction/fantasy genre related interstellar government/governments- intergalactic government/governments-multiversal government/governments- multimultiversal government/governments. Levels of Wealth/wealth gap Demo level. You're affected by the levels of wealth, though you're not actively participating. ...
Level 0: Broke. ...
Level 1: Struggle. ...
Level 2: Financially stable. ...
Level 3: Rich. ...
Level 4: Rich AF. Although with with the futuristic science fiction genre and fantasy genre relation connections the levels of wealth/wealth gap could continue on past Level 4:Rich AF due to the interstellar-intergalactic-multiversal-multimultI've real levels of

Conlon94

Yeah however it should be considered the various amount of complexily/complicatedly that the already established occults and any brand new occults(Aliens) could technically be categorically broken up into various species and/or races additional factions, sub factions, sub sub factions and so on because of and through Neo-Darwinian/Lamarckism hybridization theories of microevolution to macroevolution biological evolution of life forms and/or cosmological evolution(realities, timelines, universes, dimensions, earths, and multiverses). And with my originally stated comment that with the individuals and groups and/or families and corporations of various level of wealthy status could potentially Interstellar, extrasolar system, intergalactic, multigalactic, multiversal, and multi-multiversal Extraterrestrial real estates/properties which could potentially add to the yearly weddinganniversary gift giving traditions to go after the following options (1st Anniversary: Paper
2nd Anniversary: Cotton
3rd Anniversary: Leather
4th Anniversary: Fruit or Flowers
5th Anniversary: Wood
6th Anniversary: Candy or Iron
7th Anniversary: Wool or Copper
8th Anniversary: Pottery or Bronze
9th Anniversary: Willow or Pottery
10th Anniversary: Tin or Aluminum
11th Anniversary: Steel
12th Anniversary: Silk or Linen
13th Anniversary: Lace
14th Anniversary: Gold Jewelry
15th Anniversary: Crystal
16th Anniversary: Coffee or Tea
17th Anniversary: Wine or Spirits
18th Anniversary: Appliances
19th Anniversary: Jade
20th Anniversary: China
21st Anniversary: Fire (theme)
22nd Anniversary: Water (theme)
23rd Anniversary: Air (theme)
24th Anniversary: Stone (theme)
25th Anniversary: Silver
26th Anniversary: Art
27th Anniversary: Music
28th Anniversary: Linens
29th Anniversary: Tools
30th Anniversary: Pearls
31st Anniversary: Travel
32nd Anniversary: Bronze
33rd Anniversary: Iron
34th Anniversary: Food
35th Anniversary: Coral
36th Anniversary: Antiques
37th Anniversary: Books
38th Anniversary: Luck (theme)
39th Anniversary: Laughter (theme)
40th Anniversary: Ruby
41st Anniversary: Office or Desk Decor
42nd Anniversary: Clocks or Watches
43rd Anniversary: Entertainment (theme)
44rd Anniversary: Electronics (theme)
45th Anniversary: Sapphire
46th Anniversary: Games
47th Anniversary: Garden or Plants
48th Anniversary: Home Improvement (theme)
49th Anniversary: Copper
50th Anniversary: Gold
51st Anniversary: Photos or Cameras
52nd Anniversary: Bath or Spa (theme)
53rd Anniversary: Plastic
54th Anniversary: Glass
55th Anniversary: Emerald
56th Anniversary: Day (theme)
57th Anniversary: Night (theme)
58th Anniversary: Faith and Hope (theme)
59th Anniversary: Charity (theme)
60th Anniversary: Diamond
75th Wedding Anniversary Traditions
Traditional Gift – Diamonds
Contemporary/Modern Gift – Gold
Gemstone – Sapphire
Flower – N/A
Colour – N/A
90TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY
Traditional Gift – UK United Kingdom Stone
Traditional Gift – US United States Granite
Traditional Gift – Spain Spain Granite
Traditional Gift – Germany Germany Granite
Traditional Gift – Russia Russia Granite
Traditional Gift – France France Granite
Traditional Gift – Italy Italy Granite
Flower Gift Flower Purple Flowers
Gemstone Gift Gemstone Diamond and Emerald
Modern Gift Modern gift Engraved Marble and Granite to go after that into 100th, 110th, 120th and so on yearly wedding anniversary gifts (I apologize I simply thought that these gifts could be the sort of content that could be considered for Sims 4 possibly but more likely sims 5 along with what ever other content that could be overall considered). Which ultimately ties into the traditional five stages of elder/elderly aging process Stage 1: Independence.
Stage 2: Interdependence.
Stage 3: Dependency.
Stage 4: Crisis Management.
Stage 5: End of Life. With if you choose to have your sims lifespans prosthetically with advanced technology their could be possibly additional elder/elderly geriatric gradual aging process stages as they gradually more and more replace their body parts and organs with advanced technological prosthetic versions as the original versions fail from the passage of time and the gradual aging process as they continue on living and existing years and decades past their 100th, 110th, and 120th birthdays possibly into their 140th, 150, 160th, 170th,180th, 190th, and 200th biological/chronological age birthdays and with the however much super extremely advanced amount of outward appearances details(individual person's/Character's possible facial age related
fine lines, facial Wrinkles, chest/cleavage wrinkles, legs and arms and feet and hands wrinkles, age spots, sagging, stretch marks, age spots, arthritis, osteoporosis, gradual age related cataracts, gradual age related loss of hearing, gradual development of dementia/Alzheimer's, gradual age related hair greying-whitening-silvering/hair thinning/hair reduction/hair loss all depending upon the decade and year of age of the gradual aging process that could be applied to the sims characters. Which having sims sims lifespans prosthetically with advanced technology be incorporating combinations of occult/increasingly advanced technology into the sims aging(gradual aging process depending upon the simmers choice of process the
aging process gameplay) gradually turning/transforming the ordinary Sims characters into technologically advanced prosthetic/biological combo hybrid occult sims.

SERVERFRA

I so want all that in Sims 4.

Conlon94

For those complaining about the older looking elders why not incorporate anti-aging skin care cosmetic products for the sims and also the simmers could have a life style choices cause and affect results to their simmers aging process. Why not also incorporate the following geriatric care homes and content choices for their sims in their elder years. In-Home Care. In home health care can be a great option for those who wish to stay in the comfort of their own home. ...
Hourly Adult Care/Respite Stay. ...
Independent Living. ...
Hospice Care. ...
Palliative Care. ...
Assisted Living. ...
Nursing Homes.

Conlon94

Another thought is also Sims choosing between going with anti-aging related covering up the outward appearances evidence of gradual aging process with skin care from middle age crisis and beyond due to superficial gradually increasing age related concerns and/or using proaging skin care cosmetic products that show how the sims are gradually developing acceptance of the outward appearances evidence of gradual aging process.

spend4zen

What in the world..OMG..this list is insane. This is the Sims we are talking about right? That list is a whole new game all to itself and way to realistic as far as some of the careers and life stages go for a Sims style game. That might fit better in something like Para Lives. I am not sure I want a Sim in Hospice care or crippled with disabilities and all that. And before any one starts accusing me of being insensitive to the Disabled..I myself am disabled with a spine condition from birth and can not walk well and will be in a wheelchair the rest of my life. I play the Sims to get away from IRL problems and this is just to hard core reality for a game. I came on this thread thinking to suggest something like a normal sized telescope for my sims science lab and more robot creating stuff, actual water activities for the beach and things like that. I was floored reading the above post. I wish You luck on Your wish for all that.. I really do..everyone has there own style of play and what they like in a game...I think your hoping for a bit much for that to be added in a Sims game though.

Conlon94

One problem with paralives I did this sort of suggestion and there were paralives potential fans that thought it was selfish to request this of the paralives game design studios since it is a small game design studios in comparison/contrast to the Electronic Arts and Sims franchise Studios. So they thought it would fit better with Sims 4 and/or possibly upcoming Sims 5 computer games rather than Paralives. However either way to me it doesn't necessarily would seem to different for either games because to life simulation games such as Sims computer games and/or Paralives is to be as optional realistic as possible where they can but still manage to mix in optional unrealistic as possible at the same time all depending upon the Sims /Paralives computer games players personal gameplay choices.

Conlon94

Another thing is that you say that you think that I am expecting to much out of Sims well it seems to me that when it spends so much energy on extremely content filled expansion packs, stuff packs, gameplay packs such as you had described (https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/packs) you would expect the same amount of energy and time spent on designing content packs on the stuff that I had described although the genetics/variation/speciation/race diversity/evolution of various linean categorical tier levels of overall full races and species and various linean categorical tier levels of sub races of cult sims and even content involving geriatrics/elderly portions of life stages and geriatric care and quality of life related content, gameplay, and careers, and along with the wedding content their is completely lack of traditions of yearly wedding anniversary gifts. Plus Sims could do more with levels of government, business leadership career hierarchy, politics/governing leadership career hierarchy, tier levels of the real life overall individual people/family/community/nations/future inhabited worlds and so on wealth gap. it is kind of disappointing to see the amount content, gameplay, and careers lacking. For example in stuff content for the elderly all that sims 2, 3, and for now sims 4 was largely giving them besides the elder related clothing as such was three types of canes/geriatric walking sticks. When in fact in real life there is far more items for elderly/geriatric quality of life and elderly/geriatric care and their are a number of options/choices for elderly/geriatric care homes. And I also already mentioned that elderly/geriatric lifestage could be broken up further in 5 different elder/elderly aging stages with possibility of breaking up the stages further for the below average lifespans/average lifespans, and above average lifespans however for those who prefer to play with sims who lifespans that break the current lifespan limits of 120 years old there most likely two options of diversity of choices one being have your sims lifespans prosthetically with advanced technology their could be possibly additional elder/elderly geriatric gradual aging process stages as they gradually more and more replace their body parts and organs with advanced technological prosthetic versions as the original versions fail from the passage of time and the gradual aging process as they continue on living and existing years and decades past their 100th, 110th, and 120th birthdays possibly into their 140th, 150, 160th, 170th,180th, 190th, and 200th biological/chronological age birthdays and with the however much super extremely advanced amount of outward appearances details(individual person's/Character's possible facial age related
fine lines, facial Wrinkles, chest/cleavage wrinkles, legs and arms and feet and hands wrinkles, age spots, sagging, stretch marks, age spots, arthritis, osteoporosis, gradual age related cataracts, gradual age related loss of hearing, gradual development of dementia/Alzheimer's, gradual age related hair greying-whitening-silvering/hair thinning/hair reduction/hair loss all depending upon the decade and year of age of the gradual aging process that could be applied to the sims characters. Which having sims sims lifespans prosthetically with advanced technology be incorporating combinations of occult/increasingly advanced technology into the sims aging(gradual aging process depending upon the simmers choice of process the
aging process gameplay) gradually turning/transforming the ordinary Sims characters into technologically advanced prosthetic/biological combo hybrid occult sims. And the other being genetically altering sims for similarily extending lifespans but through slowing down the aging process by different rates of gradual aging and/or completely eliminating the aging process their fore abtaining eternal youth even if not neccessairilly true immortality with bonuses up biologically enhancements acquiring mostly/largely none mechanical technological superpowered abilities such as psychotechnic training and artificial conditioning among the possibilites. This could be another possibility of categorical grouping option of gradually or abruptly turning/transforming ordinary Sims into more category grouping types of cult sims.

Conlon94

I realize that I largely repeated myself it was simply I had found it easier to repeat than condensing wise phrasing the same thing with fewer words.

Elliandre

I like so many of the ideas on your list. Definitely a lot to be inspired by and hope for, but I do agree with @spend4zen that I play to escape and have fun, so there are some things you mentioned here that I really wouldn't want in the game, like palliative care for elder Sims, gradual onset Alzheimer's, etc ... and some things seem too realistic like hand and feet wrinkles and stretchmarks. How would you even be able to see those on the Sim's little arms and legs? I would prefer body hair and scars and more tattoos instead for appearance additions. Really interesting list though. Some realism can be very fun in the game as long as it's light-hearted and not touching on things very serious that people struggle with and play to escape from. I would like more banking and careers and I like your occult species/evolution ideas and I would love anniversary gifts for married couples or other similar family tradition type gameplay. And I really like the idea of gradually turning Sims into hybrid occults with technology. I think there is a robot arm in the game, but it would be fun if we could turn the Sim into an eternal half-human half robot with robotics inventions.

Conlon94

However at the same time there are simmers here that wants to play with Gradual aging process or at least as close to one as possible and what I was talking about was what such a thing entails. https://modthesims.info/d/490536/grow.html https://forums.thesims.com/en_us/discussion/861549/gradual-ageing-in-the-sims-4 https://modthesims.info/d/517293/age.html https://modthesims.info/d/490536/grow.html https://www.simrealist.com https://forums.thesims.com/en_us/discussion/687518/gradual-aging https://forums.thesims.com/en_us/discussion/892795/more-gradual-aging-a-workaround https://forums.thesims.com/en_us/discussion/834962/gradual-aging. And then there are so many mods to try to give sims the details that I have mentioned. https://srslysims4.tumblr.com/post/127390558045/custom-cas-trait-arthritis-hes-seen-better-days http://www.sims4modding.com https://www.thesimsresource.com https://www.thesimsresource.com https://www.pinterest.com https://thesimscatalog.com/sims4/downloads/eyecolors/cataract-eyes_t-d/ https://www.patreon.com https://snootysims.com/wiki/sims-4/the-sims-4-plastic-surgery-mod/ http://www.google.com https://musthavemods.com/sims-4-skin-overlay/ https://www.tumbex.com https://sims3melancholic.tumblr.com/post/627263926784180224/download-ea-credits-obscurus-sims http://www.google.com https://sims4updates.net/mods/nursing-home-mod-at-kawaiistacie/ And yes I said that there could be a possibility for Sims players to transform their characters into eternal genetic modification/artificial enhancement cult creations but I also said that for Sims players who don't want to quite escape the realism of gradually aging/growing older and yet blend it with fictional Sims playing players could optionally play with sims who lifespans that break the current lifespan limits of 120 years old there most likely two options of diversity of choices one being have your sims lifespans prosthetically with advanced technology their could be possibly additional elder/elderly geriatric gradual aging process stages as they gradually more and more replace their body parts and organs with advanced technological prosthetic versions as the original versions fail from the passage of time and the gradual aging process as they continue on living and existing years and decades past their 100th, 110th, and 120th birthdays possibly into their 140th, 150, 160th, 170th,180th, 190th, and 200th biological/chronological age birthdays and with the however much super extremely advanced amount of outward appearances details(individual person's/Character's possible facial age related
fine lines, facial Wrinkles, chest/cleavage wrinkles, legs and arms and feet and hands wrinkles, age spots, sagging, stretch marks, age spots, arthritis, osteoporosis, gradual age related cataracts, gradual age related loss of hearing, gradual development of dementia/Alzheimer's, gradual age related hair greying-whitening-silvering/hair thinning/hair reduction/hair loss all depending upon the decade and year of age of the gradual aging process that could be applied to the sims characters. Which having sims sims lifespans prosthetically with advanced technology be incorporating combinations of occult/increasingly advanced technology into the sims aging(gradual aging process depending upon the simmers choice of process the
aging process gameplay) gradually turning/transforming the ordinary Sims characters into technologically advanced prosthetic/biological combo hybrid occult sims. And the other being genetically altering sims for similarily extending lifespans but through slowing down the aging process by different rates of gradual aging and/or completely eliminating the aging process their fore abtaining eternal youth even if not neccessairilly true immortality with bonuses up biologically enhancements acquiring mostly/largely none mechanical technological superpowered abilities such as psychotechnic training and artificial conditioning among the possibilites. This could be another possibility of categorical grouping option of gradually or abruptly turning/transforming ordinary Sims into more category grouping types of cult sims. Sure I admit that there are simmers that want to use Sims to escape realism of gradual aging process and other aspects of real life while there are those who don't want to escape but rather cope and adjust with real life by instead bringing it into sims also. So why not allow it be official EA Sims franchise gameplay options for simmers that they can turn on and turn off through check boxes (checking and in checking the boxes) why does it have to be that those who don't want to play with so much realism/realistic gameplay within sims keep those who do want to play with realism/realistic gameplay within Sims from being able to do so. And sure there are unofficial mods that could bring some of that in as I had mentioned however they don't necessarily work as well than if EA Sims official franchise game designers officially brought it in themselves an example is the Simsrealist mods Private practice mods.

https://simrealist.itch.io/simrealist-mods https://www.kawaiistaciemods.com I am simply requesting that official Sims content for Simmers to truly play however they would personally like to play rather with more realism/realistic gameplay within Sims or less realism/ less realistic gameplay within Sims or even varying degrees/amounts/levels of mixtures of the to. Is it to much of a request to truly in action have all players in mind and not just in name/word have all players in mind?

Conlon94

Elliandre in answer to your specific question like palliative care for elder Sims, gradual onset Alzheimer's, etc ... and some things seem too realistic like hand and feet wrinkles and stretchmarks. How would you even be able to see those on the Sim's little arms and legs? Just specifically research online as much as you can what the modders have officially managed to do unofficially and you might be surprised what officially could be done if official EA Sims franchise game designers and programmers put their minds to it.

Conlon94

Tellex
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May 2015

great idea however, it will probably be too much work for EA and too expensive.. the same excuse for toddlers and teen
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Writin_Reg
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We have asked for that for years and once got a big explanation about why it could not be done in a pc game and open ended like Sims is. Something about needing a massive super computer, They even said with that type of pc it would still be virtually impossible to synch up all the things sims do together as every height has it's own set of movements for everything - plus on each sim that programming for all stages has to be on every sim - never mind the clothing is another issue as attachment to meshes can either be attached to stretch vertically or attach to stretch horizontally but can not be made to go in both direction - so if you have various height sims that slowly changed it would not work with changeable clothing. Ben Bell gave a long speech on it on a an 8 or 9 part You tube presentation before Sims 3 came out.

"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.

In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist..... Those two simmers simply missed the complete point that if Sims modders are able to figure it out then official EA game designers and game programmers should be able to figure it out otherwise it would simply reinforce how pethic that can't seem to figure out what unofficial goddess are able to figure out.

Conlon94

My idea for geriatric cyborgs came from the novel Schismatrix
by Bruce Sterling
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THE FUTURE OF MANKIND CAN TAKE ONE OF TWO DIRECTIONS...

The Mechanists are ancient aristocrats, their lives prosthetically extended with advanced technology. The Shapers are genetically altered revolutionaries, their skills the result of psychotechnic training and artificial conditioning.

Both factions are fighting to control the Schismatrix of humankind.

The Shapers are losing the battle, but Abelard Lindsay--a failed and exiled Shaper diplomat--isn't giving up. Across the galaxy, Lindsay moves from world to world, building empires, struggling for his cause--but more often fighting for his life.

He is a rebel and a rogue, a pirate and a politician, a soldier and a scholar. He can alter the direction of man's destiny--if he can survive..

SCHISMATRIX

Conlon94

And from the Sci-fi channel dust titled CXL(Roman numeral for the number 140).

Conlon94

And the simmers boxing and martial arts styles fitness work out training and skill acquiring should be incorporated into sims fights in order to allow considerable diversity in the fights and that the boxing and martial arts styles sparring matches wouldn't be the only use for the skills since the fights could be gameplay optionally covered by fighting dust cloud vanilla Sims fighting and/or not covered by fighting dust clouds not vanilla Sims fighting with considerable diversity in fighting styles.