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Why simmers are angry when Maxis bring to BG CAS items from packs?
leo3487
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One buy a pack (GP vand EP) due the GAMEPLAY
The things than Maxis is bringing from EP/GP to base game are some CAS items.
Als, I note some hypocrisy from simmers.
I no saw simmers at twitter or here being angry when they bring to BG an actual gameplay: Vacationing and rent lots
The things than Maxis is bringing from EP/GP to base game are some CAS items.
Als, I note some hypocrisy from simmers.
I no saw simmers at twitter or here being angry when they bring to BG an actual gameplay: Vacationing and rent lots
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It used to bother me too but I don’t care anymore these days.
Any time a company adds content to a base game they are giving additional value to any new customers that come along. New customers are essential to keeping a game thriving. I like when a game that I enjoy is thriving....so I'm all for it.
Life is too short to be angry over something that doesn't actually even harm anyone.
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What I consider as much more unfair are the frequent sales when players get even newer packs for 50 % of the price while I as a first day buyer are never rewarded for my loyalty. I even had to discuss with the customer service about the tiny Cottage Living bonus items.
Sims 4 packs are already, well, not the greatest value for the $$.
I always say wait for a sale, EA don't need your full price coin. Why be loyal to a company who ain't loyal to you?
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While yes, clothing and hairstyles are different things, I still understand the frustration. That makes the pack contain less stuff after all. And all in the name of inclusivity (which is a noble cause by itself).
To be honest, this is an example of the reason why I'm afraid of making The Sims 4 videos, especially about DLC. Backyard stuff, Discover University, Toddler stuff...
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/993660/when-is-it-okay-to-make-something-from-a-paid-dlc-pack-base-game/p1
I mostly bought the vampire pack for the Victorian style items. I sometimes played vampires in Sims 2 and 3 but I didn't love them until 4 so the build/buy mode items in the pack were a major factor when I bought it. I still use the build/buy and CAS items more often than I play vampires, though I really do enjoy them.
Well I personally have never got angry. One item or one hair being moved to the base game doesn't bother me at all. But I don't think anyone upset is being a hypocrite. If the item is taken from a stuff pack, like the Hot Tub was taken from the Perfect Patio Stuff Pack, than it's more likely there are many people who bought the pack for that specific item. Just imagine if you bought the pack the day before the move was made, and you only bought it for that item, and it's not like you can then return the pack for a refund. No one really minds if it's an item from a much larger expansion or game pack like a lot, because it's unlikely they bought those packs for just that one item, in the case of a lot, no one would even have seen the lot when they bought the pack.
With the African hairstyle it is more complicated, as many people wanted new African textured hair because they feel not enough was created overall, and so if you already have all the packs and just one hair was moved to the base game, than they didn't really give those players anything, even though they may be acting like they are solving a problem by moving hair around, so it can potentially make some people very angry. Those are the only types of angry comments I've seen about the hair.
Also this isn't twitter.
Lets make this a reality!
Not to mention I am used to sort stuff. If I am looking for a hair and I know it is from a certain pack I sort it and it's not there -_- because it was made basegame. Stupid.
As for the afro-styled hairstyles, can't they just make new hairstyles for that purpose? Are black folks not worth of being represented with new stuff instead of "recycled" stuff?
Some packs I don't buy for the gameplay, but the items it comes with. Those beanie hats we got in Get Together(I think?) were cute as heck to me.
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Some people DO buy packs mainly for the CAS/Build items rather than gameplay, I think I have more hours in CAS than any other mode in this game and I have bought packs for the CAS items alone before. Taking content out of a pack and putting it in the base game does devalue it, even if it's something as small as a single hairstyle, but I don't think it's even the main issue here.
It's more like, you want a pack for whatever item/feature and then some time later that item/feature you spent money for just becomes available for everyone. It feels like people who didn't pay get rewarded while you get... well, nothing.
Also I'd like to have more base game hairs be updated and some more of the older hairstyles converted from adults to children, I like when they did that before.
I'm not angry, but it's not cool. Like you said, those that "bought" the pack, aren't getting anything new by them changing the hair to base game. What are we getting?
THIS statement, right there .... is what ticks me off more than anything when they do this! How shoddy, to try and claim you as a company want to be more inclusive and represent POC, yet you can't take the time or spend the resources to actually create a brand new, never before seen hair?
No, Instead you recycle a hair that's been available for a long time, and chances are a good chunk of those players you want to "represent better" probably already own that pack with that hair, so really, what are the simmers you're trying to represent better really getting out of it if they've already own that hair?
To be entirely fair, what we are getting is pack refreshes. I don't know about you, but the Spa Day pack refresh was my favorite thing that the team did last year, and they didn't charge me for it.
I do agree with you about moving the hair from a pack to the base game instead of making a few completely new hairs is lazy and hardly worth applauding them for.
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One thing I am curious about though are some of the simmers that it really bothers cc/patreon users? And do they get upset when the creators put those same items up for free after a time?
And yes life is way too short.
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We're getting a pack refresh when the hair is ported over to base game?
Why do they have to occur at the same time for you to be grateful for the refreshes? My point is that they have a team working on refreshes at the same time as they do things like this. Complaining about one without also taking the time to be grateful for the other is rather impolite. Just sayin'.
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