This is not a new issue, but the recent release of the Modern Menswear Kit has brought it a certain new currency.
I am fine seeing kits explore niche styles & content, and don't contest this release on those grounds.
I am, however, increasingly dissatisfied to see so few options for male sims in Base Game or DLC for Sims 4.
Not fringe styles, or ethnic costumes, or next season's haute couture runway fashions. Core, everyday, staples.
A lot is being done in the Base Game for diversity, representation and inclusion. Please, consider more parity in asset development for masculine styles as well.
Was there already a topic for this? Probably. But clearly, it wasn't getting attention. Do better.
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Edited to add: newest Kit absolutely did not bring me any more bottom options
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Underwear.
Because I can't; I keep all sigs turned off.
Dudes and Dads need attention.
I’m not interested in the Modern Themswear kit.
All the sims err'day
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Good point on the hair. There are a lot of male hairstyles in the game that I just don't like.
I don't think the sims team like men, well not men who identify as a cis male. All the clothing they ever put into any packs for males always lean a little more on the feminine side of things.
I have always wanted more undies, more casual longer shorts, worn bomber jackets, nice suits, and ESPECIALLY jeans and dress pants that actually cover the ankles!!!
I need boring old Levi jeans for my men, no rips, no tears, no garish decorative elements, just old school jeans that touch the shoes and don't show their socks.
I personally don't think we'll ever see those styles, they showed us what they think males should be dressing in with their latest "Modern Menswear" kit.
Yes. So many are variations of the super spiked hair, asymmetrical, or quiff styles. At least we have gotten a few wavy/curly styles lately. I would like to see some long hair styled specifically for men. Too many of the long female hairs are super styled with lots of blow out volume and don’t look right on men. Messy cuts, medium and long shaggy, classic medium length cuts (too many of the “business” styles are super short), more curly hair, and color choices that include graying temples for that distinguished older sim.
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Agreed.
It would be unrealistic to expect an equal share between masculine and feminine content, however, the lack of Male CAS options in the Sims 4 is laughable at this point.
I have a huge dislike for the styles featured in the Modern Menswear Kit, but that’s personal and it doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist. I don’t agree with the name either, but even that is beside the point. The problem is that there aren’t enough basic styles for male sims in the first place. This includes Hair, Facial Hair and Body Hair. There is also not enough - what I consider to be - masculine content. Obviously this could mean something different to each person depending on personal taste, but still, there simply isn’t enough variety for our dudes, and there isn’t enough content for each, basic style. Prioritizing high fashion male skirts and dresses over a bigger selection of interesting looking, basic male clothing is like a slap in the face. In my humble opinion of course. In my humble opinion.
My males are CC monsters since most of the vanilla content looks slightly awkward on them. They tend to look uncomfortable in those stiff, dull or too tight pants. They look a tad silly in that shirt. I own all pack/ kits minus MMW and I really do like some of the male items offered in these packs but there isn’t enough to play around with. It’s either too clean or too flash.
The quality of meshes seem much higher 7 years in and I believe some of the dull, straight Base Game pants we have could do with a reworking and have some folds and subtle textures added. I believe plenty of us want “dull” pants or shirts for our sims, but at least make ‘em look good.
In many cases it’s not about what our sims wear, it’s how they wear it. Rolled up sleeves vs sleeves that cover the hands. A size too big but comfy looking. Make the clothing “hang” around the body more naturally. Add more weight. Right now some of our male sims dressed in basegame attire look like Ken dolls stuck in their box. Female sims in general look way more confident in their clothing. Males look borderline comical.
Personally I would be interested in a variety of adventure clothing, basic leisurewear and stylish classic male suits.
And How Bout some more grungy boots, faded ripped denim, distressed sweaters, a pair of comfy combats, worn leather, a bit of rope, scruff and frayed-at-the-edges kinda stuff? A Rugged Dudewear Kit perhaps?
Yer typical rugged dude.
Some rugged men wear rope well. Just like himself.
Interesting coat.
Good Boy. (I mean the dog).
Selfreflecting menswear.
Wolfstooth style.
George Cahill Junior. We need more George Cahill.
K dude, chill. I won’t go near your bag.
And some people just love Gerry.
Even Barbie has ken!
I appreciate that they at least tried with this last kit but the designer they chose was just 😒.
Kids are badly neglected too but I'll save that for another thread.
MEEE!!!
Jokes aside (and the above was not one, haha) , that kind of Kit would be awesome
Sea may rise, sky may fall, My love will never die..
My heart, my heart, My drowning heart, Oh all the tears I've cried
Oh I may weep forevermore, My love will never die..
YES. Can all of my male townies spawn in these looks please? And some of my females as well (I would wear some of these myself) because these looks are bangin and I want them in my game. ❤️ I know we have a few pieces that resemble some of these but more please, much more.
Menswear really, really needs more base options.
But core basics, with plenty of swatches (how about green jeans? Or brown? I own both IRL) that are versatile. Yes, yes, yes.
Honestly, I think there needs to be a few more male hairstyles too. I just think it would be really cool to have a major update that adds more male clothing and hair to the game. It would help the players who only use base game content too, especially if they can't use CC.
And some simmers might just want to play their sims in very traditional gender roles, where manly men are manly, and women wear twin sets and pearls & pin curl their hair every night (yes I also referenced decades challenges, because good luck playing certain decades without resorting to CC with what's on offer in terms of male clothing), and no simmer should feel limited in their game play because of a lack of available male cas items. All this talk of 'discover your sims selves', well okay, what if your sim self is the manliest man whoever manned type, and you want him to look like he could hit a spittoon at 30 paces, whilst driving a mack truck and shotgunning tinnies? Not much point talking about 'sims selves' and 'discovering who your sim self could be' if you severely limit the options of that discovery.
Female Simmer from Australia (she/her)
I had one of my Sims marry the Grim Reaper & now they have a lot of kids.
I need it in my game. As in, TODAY!