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That's what I thought, when I saw it, along with my usual "Great, get to check my 300 mods again to figure out which one is causing the new problem". But I can definitely say I'll be happier with this one installed. One of my top five complaints forever and ever is how difficult it usually is to get things to match in any type of build I do, and it looks like you guys are giving us a ton of new options. So thanks for that!

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  • Calico45Calico45 Posts: 2,038 Member
    Yeah, I really think 4 is too much trouble to mod because of the maintenance. I'll never complain about updates unless they break the game itself, but Origin could really could use more user content infrastructure.
  • ravynwolvfravynwolvf Posts: 1,073 Member
    Having made about 90% of my mods myself, at least I have a pretty good idea of what breaks them and can compare that to the patch notes. Otherwise, it would be a lot of redownloading and checking websites to find out if other modder's work needs updating.
  • Mstybl95Mstybl95 Posts: 5,883 Member
    ravynwolvf wrote: »
    Having made about 90% of my mods myself, at least I have a pretty good idea of what breaks them and can compare that to the patch notes. Otherwise, it would be a lot of redownloading and checking websites to find out if other modder's work needs updating.

    I'm seriously considering doing this. The patch schedule is a pain in the rear end. Honestly, I just started adding mods again last week and finally got the game set up how I want and when I saw the patch update, I literally considered giving up on playing this game.
  • ravynwolvfravynwolvf Posts: 1,073 Member
    Mstybl95 wrote: »
    ravynwolvf wrote: »
    Having made about 90% of my mods myself, at least I have a pretty good idea of what breaks them and can compare that to the patch notes. Otherwise, it would be a lot of redownloading and checking websites to find out if other modder's work needs updating.

    I'm seriously considering doing this. The patch schedule is a pain in the rear end. Honestly, I just started adding mods again last week and finally got the game set up how I want and when I saw the patch update, I literally considered giving up on playing this game.

    Once you get into it and have some idea what you're doing, it's pretty liberating. A sim's behavior is getting on your nerves, something is too expensive for gameplay, you need a blue fridge, just go out and fix it. Trouble is, it gets addictive, too. I'd like to have ONE day where I'm not making new mods to change something. And the more you learn, the more you can change.
  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 3,353 Member
    I'm working with a vanilla game right now because I'm on a non-gaming laptop until my new video card comes in. I'm starting to think it's going to be a blessing in disguise.
  • ModerateOspreyModerateOsprey Posts: 4,875 Member
    Maybe its my experience with Skyrim, but if you are going to mod a game then stop it updating and only play that version. I am still playing my modded setup from before the Cottage Living expansion. Simply make sure Origin is offline and then play your game in peace.

    When you fancy a change, let it all update and stick in some new mods.

    Simply giving up playing because a dev is fixing bugs and putting out new content (sometimes free) seems drastic to me.
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  • Mstybl95Mstybl95 Posts: 5,883 Member
    Drastic to you may be me, after losing my 7 year old save and not being able to recover 7 years worth of families and home/building renovations, losing interest in the game.
  • EllupelluelluEllupelluellu Posts: 6,873 Member
    Mstybl95 wrote: »
    Drastic to you may be me, after losing my 7 year old save and not being able to recover 7 years worth of families and home/building renovations, losing interest in the game.

    Why I always make backups .. learned that the hard way at TS2 when my hood went for corruption. I use save as every now and then, and sometimes save my families in my library and tray files to my external drive.
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  • RouensimsRouensims Posts: 4,858 Member
    I do "save as" at least once per Sim day at 2am. I occasionally upload a save to my Google Drive in case my entire computer melts down. I also occasionally transfer some saves to an external hard drive.
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  • MadIrisMadIris Posts: 594 Member
    I leave Origin offline so I don't get any surprises. Didn't install the Spa Day update either but I guess I'll update now. I have my older games to play so I'm not crazed about updating the mods all at once and just test with a new save.
  • Mstybl95Mstybl95 Posts: 5,883 Member
    edited September 2021
    Mstybl95 wrote: »
    Drastic to you may be me, after losing my 7 year old save and not being able to recover 7 years worth of families and home/building renovations, losing interest in the game.

    Why I always make backups .. learned that the hard way at TS2 when my hood went for corruption. I use save as every now and then, and sometimes save my families in my library and tray files to my external drive.

    Yep, I have good backups to about January. The game died in May right after I had a huge chunk of my town age up. I had been experiencing problems since the March patch and none of the backups after that work. They will start, I can get into the world, but when I attempt to load a lot, it gives me an error and goes back to the neighborhood selection screen. After the July patch, I couldn't get into that save at all...until yesterday...maybe the new patch did something, but either way, I tried saving my lots and they won't place from the gallery. The game crashes the minute I try to place them. So whatever happened to that save was detrimental...and it had no CC either...I started using CC after that happened because now I don't even care if the game breaks...since it's in a perpetual state of broken anyway. (that's just me feeling sorry for myself and venting)

    And something similar happened to my save in TS3 (36 generations in and it got too bloated), which is why I came back to TS4. This has not been a good sims year for me.
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  • CareyEve36CareyEve36 Posts: 287 Member
    And they still didn't fix the problem with my sims not being able to fix the showers/tubs since last patch! Ugh
  • SkanningSkanning Posts: 5 New Member
    Does anyone think the devs actually PLAY the game?
  • MaggieMarleyMaggieMarley Posts: 5,299 Member
    When I heard that there was a new patch, I thought great that will be to fix the bugged self-care specialist aspiration from the spa day update but I hear that they didn't even try to fix that :( I hope they don't just leave it broken.
  • stilljustme2stilljustme2 Posts: 25,082 Member
    When I heard that there was a new patch, I thought great that will be to fix the bugged self-care specialist aspiration from the spa day update but I hear that they didn't even try to fix that :( I hope they don't just leave it broken.

    It can take a while to fix a bug, especially if it's something they have trouble replicating; folks can help by sending saves where they experience the bug. Make sure that the save is a vanilla save (remove all mods/CC before testing to see if the bug still exists) then check AHQ for details how to do it.
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  • GoldmoldarGoldmoldar Posts: 11,966 Member
    When I heard that there was a new patch, I thought great that will be to fix the bugged self-care specialist aspiration from the spa day update but I hear that they didn't even try to fix that :( I hope they don't just leave it broken.

    It can take a while to fix a bug, especially if it's something they have trouble replicating; folks can help by sending saves where they experience the bug. Make sure that the save is a vanilla save (remove all mods/CC before testing to see if the bug still exists) then check AHQ for details how to do it.

    While I may agree with you but it should not take months or even years to fix.
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  • Mstybl95Mstybl95 Posts: 5,883 Member
    Goldmoldar wrote: »
    When I heard that there was a new patch, I thought great that will be to fix the bugged self-care specialist aspiration from the spa day update but I hear that they didn't even try to fix that :( I hope they don't just leave it broken.

    It can take a while to fix a bug, especially if it's something they have trouble replicating; folks can help by sending saves where they experience the bug. Make sure that the save is a vanilla save (remove all mods/CC before testing to see if the bug still exists) then check AHQ for details how to do it.

    While I may agree with you but it should not take months or even years to fix.

    Looking at you wash dishes in furthest bathroom sink bug that was there from year 3 to year 7.
  • ravynwolvfravynwolvf Posts: 1,073 Member
    edited September 2021
    calaprfy wrote: »
    Loanet wrote: »
    "Waaah! The Devs added stuff to the game and now I can't use all of my mods!"

    This is why I don't use Mods.

    Same here.

    Yeah, well, that's definitely one way to go about it. And yeah, it can be a royal pain to make sure they all work, but an update like yesterday really does almost nothing to them.

    Personally, if I couldn't play the game with mods, I wouldn't. My gameplay is very different from vanilla. Just for starters, my sims change into everyday when they get out of bed. And when they finish yoga. I redid all my neighborhood walkbys, and there are no random pizza men or maids generated, creating new npcs. Only friends visit my home or invite me over. There are no random outfits popping onto sims. The tv and karaoke screens don't distort just because I'm playing on speed two. My vampires bite people autonomously, but not if you are their friend. Having very low hygiene doesn't make them pop out of bed or stop what they are doing (they still get crabby). My chicks age up on the farm, but other aged animals live a long time. I have animal treat recipes that make sense involving flour and eggs along with other harder to find items. Mt ice cream needs ingredients if I'm playing simple living. My drinks don't take a half hour to mix. My plants all grow from spring to winter. My lifestyle buffs (or any other buffs) don't overpower my gameplay. When my sims leave a career, they can still do most of the connected interactions (like an astronaut being able to rave about space, or military giving orders). My sims get hungry enough that they have to (should anyway) eat a breakfast AND a dinner. And those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head, and not the mods that fix broken gameplay. I've tried playing vanilla, and it's just so bad imho.
  • ArzekialArzekial Posts: 665 Member
    I have 6 mods. Had no issues with the patch.
  • Chicklet453681Chicklet453681 Posts: 2,435 Member
    ravynwolvf wrote: »
    calaprfy wrote: »
    Loanet wrote: »
    "Waaah! The Devs added stuff to the game and now I can't use all of my mods!"

    This is why I don't use Mods.

    Same here.

    Yeah, well, that's definitely one way to go about it. And yeah, it can be a royal pain to make sure they all work, but an update like yesterday really does almost nothing to them.

    Personally, if I couldn't play the game with mods, I wouldn't. My gameplay is very different from vanilla. Just for starters, my sims change into everyday when they get out of bed. And when they finish yoga. I redid all my neighborhood walkbys, and there are no random pizza men or maids generated, creating new npcs. Only friends visit my home or invite me over. There are no random outfits popping onto sims. The tv and karaoke screens don't distort just because I'm playing on speed two. My vampires bite people autonomously, but not if you are their friend. Having very low hygiene doesn't make them pop out of bed or stop what they are doing (they still get crabby). My chicks age up on the farm, but other aged animals live a long time. I have animal treat recipes that make sense involving flour and eggs along with other harder to find items. Mt ice cream needs ingredients if I'm playing simple living. My drinks don't take a half hour to mix. My plants all grow from spring to winter. My lifestyle buffs (or any other buffs) don't overpower my gameplay. When my sims leave a career, they can still do most of the connected interactions (like an astronaut being able to rave about space, or military giving orders). My sims get hungry enough that they have to (should anyway) eat a breakfast AND a dinner. And those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head, and not the mods that fix broken gameplay. I've tried playing vanilla, and it's just so bad imho.

    Holy wow! I need all your mods! LOL

    I know you said you created them, do you share them with the public? Or is that something you'd rather not do so you don't have to do the upkeep on them when patches break things?
  • SilentKittySilentKitty Posts: 4,665 Member
    Maybe its my experience with Skyrim, but if you are going to mod a game then stop it updating and only play that version. I am still playing my modded setup from before the Cottage Living expansion. Simply make sure Origin is offline and then play your game in peace.

    When you fancy a change, let it all update and stick in some new mods.

    Simply giving up playing because a dev is fixing bugs and putting out new content (sometimes free) seems drastic to me.

    Same here, I am also playing offline with my modded game. Usually I come up for air when there is a new Game Pack or Expansion that I fancy.
  • ravynwolvfravynwolvf Posts: 1,073 Member
    edited September 2021
    ravynwolvf wrote: »
    calaprfy wrote: »
    Loanet wrote: »
    "Waaah! The Devs added stuff to the game and now I can't use all of my mods!"

    This is why I don't use Mods.

    Same here.

    Yeah, well, that's definitely one way to go about it. And yeah, it can be a royal pain to make sure they all work, but an update like yesterday really does almost nothing to them.

    Personally, if I couldn't play the game with mods, I wouldn't. My gameplay is very different from vanilla. Just for starters, my sims change into everyday when they get out of bed. And when they finish yoga. I redid all my neighborhood walkbys, and there are no random pizza men or maids generated, creating new npcs. Only friends visit my home or invite me over. There are no random outfits popping onto sims. The tv and karaoke screens don't distort just because I'm playing on speed two. My vampires bite people autonomously, but not if you are their friend. Having very low hygiene doesn't make them pop out of bed or stop what they are doing (they still get crabby). My chicks age up on the farm, but other aged animals live a long time. I have animal treat recipes that make sense involving flour and eggs along with other harder to find items. Mt ice cream needs ingredients if I'm playing simple living. My drinks don't take a half hour to mix. My plants all grow from spring to winter. My lifestyle buffs (or any other buffs) don't overpower my gameplay. When my sims leave a career, they can still do most of the connected interactions (like an astronaut being able to rave about space, or military giving orders). My sims get hungry enough that they have to (should anyway) eat a breakfast AND a dinner. And those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head, and not the mods that fix broken gameplay. I've tried playing vanilla, and it's just so bad imho.

    Holy wow! I need all your mods! LOL

    I know you said you created them, do you share them with the public? Or is that something you'd rather not do so you don't have to do the upkeep on them when patches break things?

    Yeah, unfortunately I don't post them anywhere, like you said. I used to; I have a smattering of early ones on Mod the Sims. But like you said, they would be such a pain to keep updated. And some of them, like the walkby mods, are huge changes; I know how they work and what they conflict with and change, but I wouldn't even want to let them out into the wild. They simplify things and create nice lively neighborhoods, but they also cut out a lot of what Maxis put in that some people might still want.

    I should add that anyone who enjoys vanilla gameplay, more power to you. Mods are kind of like getting a bigger tv, or going from vcr to dvd. You didn't know what you were missing, but now it's hard to go back.
  • bandit5bandit5 Posts: 919 Member
    without a mod too progress other sims you not playing with your save and worlds slowly die
  • GoldmoldarGoldmoldar Posts: 11,966 Member
    Mstybl95 wrote: »
    Goldmoldar wrote: »
    When I heard that there was a new patch, I thought great that will be to fix the bugged self-care specialist aspiration from the spa day update but I hear that they didn't even try to fix that :( I hope they don't just leave it broken.

    It can take a while to fix a bug, especially if it's something they have trouble replicating; folks can help by sending saves where they experience the bug. Make sure that the save is a vanilla save (remove all mods/CC before testing to see if the bug still exists) then check AHQ for details how to do it.

    While I may agree with you but it should not take months or even years to fix.

    Looking at you wash dishes in furthest bathroom sink bug that was there from year 3 to year 7.

    Yep :)
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,487 Member
    Just came here to be certain my eyes didn't deceive me when it said 'content patch' is available. Oi! I ended up patching, then had to do a game folder refresh since my Sim wasn't getting notified he had about an hour before work, nor was I able to Join him. Ho-hum, 'tis the price we pay to play with mods. I just hope it doesn't set me back another THREE days before things play as they should. Face/palm.
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