You know how in Eco Lifestyles there are premade individuals pivotal to gameplay--Knox, Bess and Tina Tinker. I always keep them. Plus, it's nice they actually live in a house in the game. I just will tweak their families to suit my gameplay style.
Knox appearance is different so I wanted his parents to have his similar features--game genetics did a good job on his parents and little brother.
For Cottage Living, having premades live in a residential lot is great. I never play premade Sims or families; but, I'll befriend them or give them someone to date or love.
Does anyone know which premades are vital to the gameplay? I don't want to delete those ones. I know in the livestream they showed the families on the festival board which are vital. Plus, I know if you delete someone an NPC would take their place. I just don't want to delete a premade that is vital who owns a pub, residential lot, or delivers groceries you order.
But why did the IL festivals have to be excluded? If I live in Sulani, especially, they should be on my calendar. They are so difficult for me to catch normally. I love that world but I always feel excluded from the "community" aspects it was supposed to come with.
Have they said or has their been a video showing how much "generous space" they give the cows/llamas? I'm curious when building a fence for them and chickens how big to make it past the squares.
Thanks!
From what I've seen, Cows and Llamas stay mostly within the designated space outside the shed (total 10x9 footprint, though the shed is only like 3x8 of that) while chickens the coop is only 3x4, but without a fence the chickens can end up on the other side of the neighborhood - and in a large neighborhood, that's quite a ways.
On farms with multiple farm animals, say 4 cows, I'll (if needed) use bb.moveobjects cheat to overlap the cows' outdoor area. I guess the chance of clipping will be minimal, and if it happens I can live with that. It requires placing the 4 sheds either in two approaching lines or in a circle, no idea what might work better.
I think (don’t know) part of the reason IL festivals were excluded is they are daily and tend to be on a much smaller scale than the others. A shame yes because I never remember what is when during the week but I can see this being part of the reason.
I wonder why the island festivals were excluded from the calendar.
City Living festivals are on set schedule, so are Snowy Escape events and Cottage Living. Seasons events are generated a week ahead.
Island festivals seem to be semi-random and possibly dependent on your progress (such as turtle hatching), so maybe that's the case.
But why did the IL festivals have to be excluded? If I live in Sulani, especially, they should be on my calendar. They are so difficult for me to catch normally. I love that world but I always feel excluded from the "community" aspects it was supposed to come with.
It's been a while now, so my memory is hazy, but I seem to recall that at one point early on, one of the gurus said that it was because the Sulani festivals were meant to be more like casual, impromptu, local gatherings as opposed to big events that people from other worlds would plan a trip around. Which kind of makes sense to me for most of them, except maybe the turtle hatching... it's further out, so it's harder to casually walk by and spot even if you live in one of the other Sulani neighborhoods, and it does seem to me like something people would plan a trip around. I'm a little sad that I've had IL since release, and played it pretty thoroughly, including households in that neighborhood, and somehow I've still missed it every time. So I'd love if that one at least were on the calendar.
But why did the IL festivals have to be excluded? If I live in Sulani, especially, they should be on my calendar. They are so difficult for me to catch normally. I love that world but I always feel excluded from the "community" aspects it was supposed to come with.
There is an excellent tiny mod that sends you notifications of every IL festival no matter what neighborhood your sim lives in. It was created by Scarlet, who retired from modding, but another modder has taken it over and kept it updated (I think it is MizoreYukii). You can find a link to it on Scarlet's old modding page. I've had it in my game since it was created and I intend to keep it.
Does anyone know whether calling for grocery delivery is restricted to Henford?
I can see how the pub owners and stall merchants will really only work in the new town, but if you order groceries on your phone and an NPC delivers them to your lot, I just wonder whether the order option will be greyed out on your phone unless you're a village resident.
If so, maybe a modder will find a way around that. Grocery delivery in all worlds would be nice.
Does anyone know whether calling for grocery delivery is restricted to Henford?
I can see how the pub owners and stall merchants will really only work in the new town, but if you order groceries on your phone and an NPC delivers them to your lot, I just wonder whether the order option will be greyed out on your phone unless you're a village resident.
If so, maybe a modder will find a way around that. Grocery delivery in all worlds would be nice.
You know how in Eco Lifestyles there are premade individuals pivotal to gameplay--Knox, Bess and Tina Tinker. I always keep them. Plus, it's nice they actually live in a house in the game. I just will tweak their families to suit my gameplay style.
Knox appearance is different so I wanted his parents to have his similar features--game genetics did a good job on his parents and little brother.
For Cottage Living, having premades live in a residential lot is great. I never play premade Sims or families; but, I'll befriend them or give them someone to date or love.
Does anyone know which premades are vital to the gameplay? I don't want to delete those ones. I know in the livestream they showed the families on the festival board which are vital. Plus, I know if you delete someone an NPC would take their place. I just don't want to delete a premade that is vital who owns a pub, residential lot, or delivers groceries you order.
Of the NPCs with roles only the Scott’s are housed.
I also think some of the other residents are involved in the quest but I’ve tried to stay away from that info to have some surprises.
I plan on using the 64 x 64 lot that is occupied by the Watson family.
With the quest that are involved, I'm wondering if you put down new families on all the lots while not messing with the NPCs who have roles, will the quest now include those new families.
I'm just going to do a new save to test and see how things work. Although I won't start playing until Friday, I'm so excited.
I plan on using the 64 x 64 lot that is occupied by the Watson family.
With the quest that are involved, I'm wondering if you put down new families on all the lots while not messing with the NPCs who have roles, will the quest now include those new families.
I believe the only quest givers are the mayor, her son (the grocery delivery person), Ms. Scott (the pub owner), Kim Goldbloom (the grocery stall owner), the Creature Keeper, and both of the Crumplebottoms. Out of all of those, only the Scotts are currently housed.
It doesn't appear that any of the Watsons, or the other premade housed Sims (except Ms. Scott) give quests. So evicting or even deleting the non-special premades shouldn't affect the quests at all.
I think people are mostly assuming that even if you get rid of the current special NPCS, they will be replaced, so it still shouldn't make a difference. In other words, presumably the quests are tied to the special NPC role, not to the specific character.
I plan on using the 64 x 64 lot that is occupied by the Watson family.
With the quest that are involved, I'm wondering if you put down new families on all the lots while not messing with the NPCs who have roles, will the quest now include those new families.
I believe the only quest givers are the mayor, her son (the grocery delivery person), Ms. Scott (the pub owner), Kim Goldbloom (the grocery stall owner), the Creature Keeper, and both of the Crumplebottoms. Out of all of those, only the Scotts are currently housed.
It doesn't appear that any of the Watsons, or the other premade housed Sims (except Ms. Scott) give quests. So evicting or even deleting the non-special premades shouldn't affect the quests at all.
I think people are mostly assuming that even if you get rid of the current special NPCS, they will be replaced, so it still shouldn't make a difference. In other words, presumably the quests are tied to the special NPC role, not to the specific character.
That would make sense, as many of the story lines - from what I've seen in let's plays - don't actually use the sim's name. You don't talk to Michael Bell, you talk to the Creature Keeper. You don't talk to the Mayor's son (whose name I'm blanking on at the moment), you talk to the Grocery Delivery person, etc.
With the quest that are involved, I'm wondering if you put down new families on all the lots while not messing with the NPCs who have roles, will the quest now include those new families.
I'm just going to do a new save to test and see how things work. Although I won't start playing until Friday, I'm so excited.
I think it might work in a similar way to the NPC Sages from RoM. When I added them to one of my families, they became just regular, playable Sims and their role as Sages was immediately taken over by other, random NPCs.
I plan on using the 64 x 64 lot that is occupied by the Watson family.
With the quest that are involved, I'm wondering if you put down new families on all the lots while not messing with the NPCs who have roles, will the quest now include those new families.
I believe the only quest givers are the mayor, her son (the grocery delivery person), Ms. Scott (the pub owner), Kim Goldbloom (the grocery stall owner), the Creature Keeper, and both of the Crumplebottoms. Out of all of those, only the Scotts are currently housed.
It doesn't appear that any of the Watsons, or the other premade housed Sims (except Ms. Scott) give quests. So evicting or even deleting the non-special premades shouldn't affect the quests at all.
I think people are mostly assuming that even if you get rid of the current special NPCS, they will be replaced, so it still shouldn't make a difference. In other words, presumably the quests are tied to the special NPC role, not to the specific character.
It was definitely confirmed that all of those roles (the ones you listed, which are posted on the board in town that you can read) will be replaced with a new auto-generated Sim if they age out or are deleted, or if you make them playable. One of the game changers apparently tried to play the Scotts, and as soon as they began playing them they were no longer the pub owners, but the game generated new pub owners. This system is obviously in place so that the quests will be consistently available. I like it, as I play rotationally and allow all my NPCs to age gradually with my played characters. That means that over time there will be a new mayor, a new Creature Keeper, etc. The Crumplebottoms won't age so after a few generations my Sims may start to wonder... what's going on with these old ladies' longevity?! I'm going to imagine that the Crumplebottoms actually have some supernatural gifts...
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I plan on using the 64 x 64 lot that is occupied by the Watson family.
With the quest that are involved, I'm wondering if you put down new families on all the lots while not messing with the NPCs who have roles, will the quest now include those new families.
I believe the only quest givers are the mayor, her son (the grocery delivery person), Ms. Scott (the pub owner), Kim Goldbloom (the grocery stall owner), the Creature Keeper, and both of the Crumplebottoms. Out of all of those, only the Scotts are currently housed.
It doesn't appear that any of the Watsons, or the other premade housed Sims (except Ms. Scott) give quests. So evicting or even deleting the non-special premades shouldn't affect the quests at all.
I think people are mostly assuming that even if you get rid of the current special NPCS, they will be replaced, so it still shouldn't make a difference. In other words, presumably the quests are tied to the special NPC role, not to the specific character.
It was definitely confirmed that all of those roles (the ones you listed, which are posted on the board in town that you can read) will be replaced with a new auto-generated Sim if they age out or are deleted, or if you make them playable. One of the game changers apparently tried to play the Scotts, and as soon as they began playing them they were no longer the pub owners, but the game generated new pub owners. This system is obviously in place so that the quests will be consistently available. I like it, as I play rotationally and allow all my NPCs to age gradually with my played characters. That means that over time there will be a new mayor, a new Creature Keeper, etc. The Crumplebottoms won't age so after a few generations my Sims may start to wonder... what's going on with these old ladies' longevity?! I'm going to imagine that the Crumplebottoms actually have some supernatural gifts...
Yes, it's definitely been confirmed that the NPCs will be replaced if removed. I was specifically responding to someone who was wondering whether moving the Watsons would affect the quest system (by which I assume she meant the errand system), and my point was that I believe the special NPCS (who do not include the Watsons) are the only ones who give out quests/errands.
Wait. Are they saying we can't turn off aging for these new NPCs at all? Or that they would have liked a separate toggle so they didn't age while the rest of the world aged normally?
Wait. Are they saying we can't turn off aging for these new NPCs at all? Or that they would have liked a separate toggle so they didn't age while the rest of the world aged normally?
This.
That doesn't seem right at all. I knew the Crumplebottoms were designed to be immortal, but that sounds like a specific form of aging always happens even if aging is turned off. I don't care that the roles get replaced if something happens, but if I have aging off then no one should age.
If this was a design choice, it absolutely shoukd have been made clear in the livestream and the early access videos.
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Of the NPCs with roles only the Scott’s are housed.
I also think some of the other residents are involved in the quest but I’ve tried to stay away from that info to have some surprises.
On farms with multiple farm animals, say 4 cows, I'll (if needed) use bb.moveobjects cheat to overlap the cows' outdoor area. I guess the chance of clipping will be minimal, and if it happens I can live with that. It requires placing the 4 sheds either in two approaching lines or in a circle, no idea what might work better.
Should be dropping Tomorrow.
City Living festivals are on set schedule, so are Snowy Escape events and Cottage Living. Seasons events are generated a week ahead.
Island festivals seem to be semi-random and possibly dependent on your progress (such as turtle hatching), so maybe that's the case.
I also like wandering the hills.
It's been a while now, so my memory is hazy, but I seem to recall that at one point early on, one of the gurus said that it was because the Sulani festivals were meant to be more like casual, impromptu, local gatherings as opposed to big events that people from other worlds would plan a trip around. Which kind of makes sense to me for most of them, except maybe the turtle hatching... it's further out, so it's harder to casually walk by and spot even if you live in one of the other Sulani neighborhoods, and it does seem to me like something people would plan a trip around. I'm a little sad that I've had IL since release, and played it pretty thoroughly, including households in that neighborhood, and somehow I've still missed it every time. So I'd love if that one at least were on the calendar.
There is an excellent tiny mod that sends you notifications of every IL festival no matter what neighborhood your sim lives in. It was created by Scarlet, who retired from modding, but another modder has taken it over and kept it updated (I think it is MizoreYukii). You can find a link to it on Scarlet's old modding page. I've had it in my game since it was created and I intend to keep it.
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I can see how the pub owners and stall merchants will really only work in the new town, but if you order groceries on your phone and an NPC delivers them to your lot, I just wonder whether the order option will be greyed out on your phone unless you're a village resident.
If so, maybe a modder will find a way around that. Grocery delivery in all worlds would be nice.
I doubt that's the case
I plan on using the 64 x 64 lot that is occupied by the Watson family.
With the quest that are involved, I'm wondering if you put down new families on all the lots while not messing with the NPCs who have roles, will the quest now include those new families.
I'm just going to do a new save to test and see how things work. Although I won't start playing until Friday, I'm so excited.
I believe the only quest givers are the mayor, her son (the grocery delivery person), Ms. Scott (the pub owner), Kim Goldbloom (the grocery stall owner), the Creature Keeper, and both of the Crumplebottoms. Out of all of those, only the Scotts are currently housed.
It doesn't appear that any of the Watsons, or the other premade housed Sims (except Ms. Scott) give quests. So evicting or even deleting the non-special premades shouldn't affect the quests at all.
I think people are mostly assuming that even if you get rid of the current special NPCS, they will be replaced, so it still shouldn't make a difference. In other words, presumably the quests are tied to the special NPC role, not to the specific character.
That would make sense, as many of the story lines - from what I've seen in let's plays - don't actually use the sim's name. You don't talk to Michael Bell, you talk to the Creature Keeper. You don't talk to the Mayor's son (whose name I'm blanking on at the moment), you talk to the Grocery Delivery person, etc.
I think it might work in a similar way to the NPC Sages from RoM. When I added them to one of my families, they became just regular, playable Sims and their role as Sages was immediately taken over by other, random NPCs.
It was definitely confirmed that all of those roles (the ones you listed, which are posted on the board in town that you can read) will be replaced with a new auto-generated Sim if they age out or are deleted, or if you make them playable. One of the game changers apparently tried to play the Scotts, and as soon as they began playing them they were no longer the pub owners, but the game generated new pub owners. This system is obviously in place so that the quests will be consistently available. I like it, as I play rotationally and allow all my NPCs to age gradually with my played characters. That means that over time there will be a new mayor, a new Creature Keeper, etc. The Crumplebottoms won't age so after a few generations my Sims may start to wonder... what's going on with these old ladies' longevity?! I'm going to imagine that the Crumplebottoms actually have some supernatural gifts...
Yes, it's definitely been confirmed that the NPCs will be replaced if removed. I was specifically responding to someone who was wondering whether moving the Watsons would affect the quest system (by which I assume she meant the errand system), and my point was that I believe the special NPCS (who do not include the Watsons) are the only ones who give out quests/errands.
I want an army of crumplebottoms now!
Wait. Are they saying we can't turn off aging for these new NPCs at all? Or that they would have liked a separate toggle so they didn't age while the rest of the world aged normally?
This.
That doesn't seem right at all. I knew the Crumplebottoms were designed to be immortal, but that sounds like a specific form of aging always happens even if aging is turned off. I don't care that the roles get replaced if something happens, but if I have aging off then no one should age.
If this was a design choice, it absolutely shoukd have been made clear in the livestream and the early access videos.