@Chazzzy vacuums don't work off the grid. In my game yesterday i had the power conservation day and i couldn't use them during the hours that the power was off. It may have some upgrade that enables it to work off the grid, but i haven't checked...
I agree that the speed that the house gets dirty is too fast. As for dust bunnies, I love them! 'n yes, it's annoying that in big families you have to buy gazillion vacuum cleaners or micro-manage.
My main actual complaint is that as far as I can see, teens and children don't get any Responsibility from using vacuum cleaner. Surely if they get that from all the other cleaning, as well as doing laundry or taking care of the hamster, they should get that from vacuuming as well?
Oh good! Then it either doesn't work as intended right now but should be fixed soon, or I somehow missed the green text signs from it. I also did try to stare at their values window and didn't see the value rising, but very good to hear that it's intended to do that, so hopefully fixed soon.
@Chazzzy vacuums don't work off the grid. In my game yesterday i had the power conservation day and i couldn't use them during the hours that the power was off. It may have some upgrade that enables it to work off the grid, but i haven't checked...
There’s an upgrade, it’s called Eco Power Cell or something like that. It will enable you to use it off the grid.
I agree that the speed that the house gets dirty is too fast. As for dust bunnies, I love them! 'n yes, it's annoying that in big families you have to buy gazillion vacuum cleaners or micro-manage.
My main actual complaint is that as far as I can see, teens and children don't get any Responsibility from using vacuum cleaner. Surely if they get that from all the other cleaning, as well as doing laundry or taking care of the hamster, they should get that from vacuuming as well?
Oh good! Then it either doesn't work as intended right now but should be fixed soon, or I somehow missed the green text signs from it. I also did try to stare at their values window and didn't see the value rising, but very good to hear that it's intended to do that, so hopefully fixed soon.
My kids are getting the little +Responsibility indicators when they vacuum but they’re small and the float by pretty quickly.
I wish they would have added brooms, for off-the-grid and historical households. Hopefully a modder will add that, I won't be purchasing until then though.
Thanks for this thread. This was a pack initially I had no interest in but seeing some videos on it I think it will suit my gameplay style. I think I will wait a while to get it to see if any bugs are resolved.
So let me recap: Houses get dirty too quickly, public lots get dirty as well, some features don't work as intended, and the only way to avoid all that is to turn off the system entirely rather than just certain aspects of it, which would basically mean you spent 5€ on a decorative vacuum cleaner.
Ugh! I'm glad I found this thread. I was going to buy this kit, but not under these circumstances. You know, with big packs such as Snowy Escape, some bugs and questionable decisions are to be expected, and some things are going to need fine-tuning (*cough* lifestyles *cough*), but selling just one gameplay feature separately that still ends up being broken / poorly thought-out has to be a new record.
Some one in a different thread mentioned that the Cats & Dogs robo cleaner and the Discover University cleaning bots are not cleaning up the dust like Ninja said they would. Can any one confirm they have tried either of these and whether they worked please?
The Cats & Dogs robo works very well in my 3 story house. Haven't used the University bot yet, but I cannot hire a maid anymore. It doesn't grey out so the option to hire a scheduled maid is always there.
Besides these "kits" just being microtransactions with a cute name, they're basically just stuff kept out of other packs and sold back to us piecemeal. Minimal effort for maximum profit.
So basically it's either "on or off" for the dirt stuff. Hmm...
May be fun occasionally to play, but like the "Laundry" pack, I mainly got it for the build items and clothing. I rarely use the actual laundry in households. Though a few I do for fun. Usually apartments though. (Don't get me wrong, no complaints with the Laundry pack. But I did make sure you weren't forced to have laundry active everywhere before I bought the pack)
My point being I suppose that getting the vacuum cleaner pack for just an ornamental vacuum cleaner seems kinda meh.
Perhaps if it's improved, and the bugs repaired, then may be worth it. The only thing that catches my attention really is the "dust-bunnies"
I could see the autonomy becoming an issue, but I'm stopping my sims from doing so much stuff ngl. other than that I haven't encountered anything annoying or weird with the kit. If I get tired of it I can just turn it off and then turn it on when I want the challenge. Perhaps they could have included a dust slider in the settings or a toggle for light or heavy dust accumulation, but honestly I've noticed that a little goes a long way with the vacuum, and I'm not sure I would want to have to dust every single room ALL the time, I think the level difference is enough. Can you imagine the whining that would have happened if sims had to vacuum every single room? Not saying they couldn't have included a setting for that though, I would've loved the choice, because sometimes I DO want my sims to go crazy. lol
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I agree with you Admiral8Q. I only got Laundry Day for the CAS & Build Items also. I never use the actual Laundry stuff.
And, I'll never get the Bust the Dust. I don't want my precious sims to start having sinus problems due to dust bunnies, even if they do look cute in the Sims 4.
I love the idea of vaccuming but these issues are the reason I never bought it. I expected our sims could walk around while vaccuming which would add to the realism.
I have similar complaints actually but I feel it's less a pack problem and more of a general problem. Like those environment idols need to go. Eco playstyle brought the worse and they did it constantly I had to mod it out. And the way they would constantly react to a pristine reputation.
Things in this game generally go too fast. I'll need to mod it to make things get dirty in a more reasonable amount of time.
I hate that they put them in inventories but bikes are equally annoying. I love bikes but gate to get it to them because they put them in inventories and want to bike everywhere. I really want to display them. And have them use it at my command.
Yeah kinda weird they don't atleast wall around a little while vacuming 😅😅
.oh and the sparkles don't bother me too much now but long term I'll probably mod it out lol
Some one in a different thread mentioned that the Cats & Dogs robo cleaner and the Discover University cleaning bots are not cleaning up the dust like Ninja said they would. Can any one confirm they have tried either of these and whether they worked please?
I can definitely confirm that the robot vacuums from Cats and Dogs actually does clean up all the dust. I had 5 in my sim's home and never saw a speck of dust ever again. I don't know about the robots from DU, but I can confirm the roombas from C&D does the trick.
Sim autonomously fed dust bunnies, appeased dust fiends and played in dust but did not hoover once.
Befriending dust bunnies proved impossible and a chore.
Dust fiends can find collectibles and clutter.
Sims can be scared of dust fiends!
Enjoying the extra revenue a happy dust bunny generates. Hope that doesn't get nerfed.
Getting a floor of a house dirty enough for the aspiration proved impossible.
With dust effects switched off, the game defaults to a clean status and sims constantly have positive moodlets. So you get the benefits of having a clean house without the effort. Sim was constantly inspired.
The best way forward is to have the owning of a vacuum trigger the dust. Because I don't fancy every household battling dust just like I don't have every household owning a washing machine to do laundry.
The best way forward is to have the owning of a vacuum trigger the dust. Because I don't fancy every household battling dust just like I don't have every household owning a washing machine to do laundry.
I was expecting them to do it that way, to be honest- following in the footsteps of laundry day.
But I guess it's not difficult just to go in the settings and untick the box if you decide to play a household where you don't want the dust. Though that may get old if you're rotating every few sim days like me!
So, in other words OP, this is not a buyable object where the player can determine whether they want dust bunnies or not, and the object is not clickable but in the Sims' inventories? And the trait system is a fail again because shouldn't only neater Sims care about their homes, if it is dirty or not? I wonder how hard it would have been to code this to be a buyable object that produced the dust if you had the object on the lot, and how hard it would have been to code it that the player clicks the object to use, and or how hard it would have been to code only particular Sims would use it autonomously. I guess all that was too hard? Depth is Hard.
Would a creative Sim care if the house is messy if they spend most of their time and mind on artistic projects etc.? Would a perfectionist care...I think so, but what do I know about the complexity of gameplay.
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The best way forward is to have the owning of a vacuum trigger the dust. Because I don't fancy every household battling dust just like I don't have every household owning a washing machine to do laundry.
I was expecting them to do it that way, to be honest- following in the footsteps of laundry day.
But I guess it's not difficult just to go in the settings and untick the box if you decide to play a household where you don't want the dust. Though that may get old if you're rotating every few sim days like me!
@elanorbreton Yes, I will be allowing dust only if household contains neat or slob sims.
I might be having issues with the maid service So I haven't had too much time to play but it's been a little over a sim day and the maid service should have arrived already.
I'll have to test this again and pull out mods in a clean save.
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I vacuum my wood floors.
Oh good! Then it either doesn't work as intended right now but should be fixed soon, or I somehow missed the green text signs from it. I also did try to stare at their values window and didn't see the value rising, but very good to hear that it's intended to do that, so hopefully fixed soon.
There’s an upgrade, it’s called Eco Power Cell or something like that. It will enable you to use it off the grid.
My kids are getting the little +Responsibility indicators when they vacuum but they’re small and the float by pretty quickly.
We need mobs and brooms.
That is a good question. I do not think so, but that will require some testing.
Ugh! I'm glad I found this thread. I was going to buy this kit, but not under these circumstances. You know, with big packs such as Snowy Escape, some bugs and questionable decisions are to be expected, and some things are going to need fine-tuning (*cough* lifestyles *cough*), but selling just one gameplay feature separately that still ends up being broken / poorly thought-out has to be a new record.
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I don't use MCCC.
The Cats & Dogs robo works very well in my 3 story house. Haven't used the University bot yet, but I cannot hire a maid anymore. It doesn't grey out so the option to hire a scheduled maid is always there.
So basically it's either "on or off" for the dirt stuff. Hmm...
May be fun occasionally to play, but like the "Laundry" pack, I mainly got it for the build items and clothing. I rarely use the actual laundry in households. Though a few I do for fun. Usually apartments though. (Don't get me wrong, no complaints with the Laundry pack. But I did make sure you weren't forced to have laundry active everywhere before I bought the pack)
My point being I suppose that getting the vacuum cleaner pack for just an ornamental vacuum cleaner seems kinda meh.
Perhaps if it's improved, and the bugs repaired, then may be worth it. The only thing that catches my attention really is the "dust-bunnies"
And, I'll never get the Bust the Dust. I don't want my precious sims to start having sinus problems due to dust bunnies, even if they do look cute in the Sims 4.
Things in this game generally go too fast. I'll need to mod it to make things get dirty in a more reasonable amount of time.
I hate that they put them in inventories but bikes are equally annoying. I love bikes but gate to get it to them because they put them in inventories and want to bike everywhere. I really want to display them. And have them use it at my command.
Yeah kinda weird they don't atleast wall around a little while vacuming 😅😅
.oh and the sparkles don't bother me too much now but long term I'll probably mod it out lol
I can definitely confirm that the robot vacuums from Cats and Dogs actually does clean up all the dust. I had 5 in my sim's home and never saw a speck of dust ever again. I don't know about the robots from DU, but I can confirm the roombas from C&D does the trick.
But I guess it's not difficult just to go in the settings and untick the box if you decide to play a household where you don't want the dust. Though that may get old if you're rotating every few sim days like me!
Would a creative Sim care if the house is messy if they spend most of their time and mind on artistic projects etc.? Would a perfectionist care...I think so, but what do I know about the complexity of gameplay.
@elanorbreton Yes, I will be allowing dust only if household contains neat or slob sims.
I'll have to test this again and pull out mods in a clean save.
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