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What does sims 2 have that is lacking in sims 4
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Some decor is not simply decor.
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Tee hee, actually, as you play with UC, there is 2 more ways to fill the fridge than going to store or call the delivery
I am the mask you wear, it's me they hear.
My spirit and your voice, In one combined.
The Phantom of the Opera is there... Inside your mind..
The sims 2 oozes personality. Sims actually have one. In sims 2, you actually have to watch your grouchy sims as they can ruin their own relationships without any Input from you. Unlike in the sims 4 when an evil sim just “manic Laughs” from time to time. The sims in sims 2 don’t all get on by default. Some get on better than others due to their astrological signs, their hobbies, their turns on and turn offs and their chemistry with each other.
Life is meaningful in game and your choices have consequence, some long term and some short term. Wants (sims 4 whims) are also way better. Wants actually mean something. You won’t see sims repeatedly get wants to buy a 1x1 pool and children don’t get wishes to do laundry but age appropriate ones. Parent sims get family wants for their children. For example, depending on their aspiration they may want to see their children get an A in school, get into and graduate college. For some parents they fear their children doing badly in those areas. Relationships are more fleshed out and realistic overall. There is no fighting with someone and laughing and hugging three seconds later. Children care if they catch Dad cheating on Mom.
And the game play itself... it wipes the floor with the sims 4. Full fleshed out expansion packs. Consequences, deep game play, hobbies, full fledged vacations, dates and group rewards have rewards and consequences, The best family play and activities for kids and teens that aren’t young adults!
I'm not too troubled with the dated aesthetics of the game: the game play and mysteries are keeping me hooked, which tells me that I'm playing a game that is interesting at its core.
I haven't been able to get back to the game due to other priorities, but hopefully this weekend I'll get a chance to figure out how to get to Three Lakes using the treasure map that my sim found in his back yard. Although I didn't set-up Three Lakes as a holiday destination, so maybe this is where the 1st. mystery lies. I feel I need to fix that first... I may have to replace TikiTiki Island or whatever it is called...
There are other ways? ....I thought I was a genius for figuring it out. Clearly not.
Two more ways to fill the fridge?
K. On to my next fridge mission!
After doing that I find the Sims 2 looks pretty bearable.
Yeah it was no problem. I altered some of the instances in the Graphics Rules.sgr and the game looks good!
I'd say it falls into two main categories:
1. Sims with personalities--even though the point system SEEMS limited and rudimentary, it actually created unique sims. A neat Sim will compulsively clean and feel bad when things are messy. A shy Sim hates doing anything with strangers. You can create a lot of different, unique personalities and see how they interact with one another, which is delightful. The AI was much better, and the Sims felt real. Therefore, their relaitoinships were unique, and you as a player could feel differently about different sims. It is all but impossible to tell the sims apart in TS4, no matter what "traits" you give them.
2. Life simulation--TS2 actually did this. You could do whatever you wanted, sure, but if you cheated on your spouse, there were consequences when they caught you. This is realistic. This is a life simulation. Sometimes they would leave. They would be enraged and refuse to sleep in the same bed for days. Sometimes it was impossible to rebuild the relationship. You know--like real life. This made the game interesting and three-dimensional. It gave actions purpose and meaning. Sims also had lifelong goals, and if they weren't making progress on those--if they were realizing fears faster than wants--they went a little nuts. Again, very realistic. The simulation made the game vibrant, alive, and purposeful. Those are NOT words one can apply to TS4, where there are no consequences ever. You also had to pay bills and buy groceries and getting ahead was just all around harder in TS2, which--to me at least--is also like real life.
There is a bunch more. But I think these are the areas that are most significant, and I wish so so so much that TS4 would do something to fix these areas. Because right now, the game is unplayable to me.
I'm going to use the word "Mature" but I don't mean it in a... an adult hub sort of way. I mean it in a, humor and metaphor sort of way.
The Sims 2 had a more mature nature. It felt less like being treated as if I were 12 and more like I'm being addressed, as an adult player. There were little easter eggs and bits of innuendo that would have been lost on me as a 12 year old child that I've grown to really miss. The humor, both dark and light, is what I miss the most about The Sims 2 that is sadly, lacking from the Sims 4 game on the whole. I loved that you could actually die during pregnancy if your player wasn't paying enough attention. I think there was just the right amount of attention paid to life states and systems and none of it felt bogged down or over-wrought in the way that some of the new life states do for the Sims 4. I actually find myself avoiding some of my most beloved life states because they are just too focused on ...whatever it is EA decided they should be. Sims 2 was more open ended and left it to the player to design the fate of them. I miss that. I miss making a witch and allowing my story to unfold my way instead of being forced into Harry Potter via The Magicians .TM
I miss being an alien and having the freedom to live my life without sims shying away from me and being ❤️❤️❤️❤️, all the while accepting the evil ❤️❤️❤️❤️ next door...
It (The Sims 2) Was just over-all, a better game in my opinion and I'd L.O.V.E a graphically updated version of it some day. Digital remastery or whatever you might call it.
beautifully described
I MUCH prefer TS2 and TS3. I love the open world of TS3 and the traits and I love the complexity of TS2. At least in #3, the "monsters" were only specific to that child and his/her bed, NOT the entire household. Currently, I'm doing a Build a City challenge in #2 where you start out w/a blank or empty world and build up a city. The founding sim must do something to get more food (I won't reveal what since Captain NXR7 doesn't want to know) or he/she will go hungry when the fridge gets empty (no grocery store yet). So far, I'm up to 2 families. As soon as their kids grow up, I'll have more.
Another thing is rotational play. Rotational play is only viable in Sims 2. If you try to rotate families in 3, you'll come back to see they all have new jobs, new marriages, or left town completely while you were away. The only way to stop this is to mod your game to double hockey sticks, which requires a LOT of techy knowledge to truly understand even how to make that work well. And in Sims 4, it's basically the same. Sims will flirt and make enemies while you're away, and just generally ruin everything you set up for them. In Sims 2, this thankfully didn't happen unless you made it happen by interacting with them. Yes, it's realistic for them to live their lives, and I personally prefer it this way since I like playing one family only, however occasionally I do want to rotate but it's disappointing that I can't in any other Sims game.
S2 sims react to their surroundings, I can tell whether they like/dislike, are sad, happy or angry at something by watching their reactions rather than colorful moodlets and music. Sims who cook a lot will rub their belly from time to time while thinking about food.
The cut scenes of important life events. both the goods and the bads.
Businesses.
Sims 4 is closer to an RPG game than S2, I like figuring out what to do to make sims Sims happy (or not) in S2. Sims 2 is about the Sims themselves, the family and the relationships between them which is not as much the focus in S4, unfortunately.
The personality actually matters in this one and if I order them to do something that goes against their established personality, they'll let me know.
Here are the problems With the sims 4
Here is why sims 2 is much more fun
Here are mods that can help some of the flaws in the sims 4.
Finally things you can do to help without mods
Terrific Family Play
Too fun
The sims 2 forever
They also quickly redirect if something else, like put the toddler to bed is in someone else's queue!
I'm not using the money cheat, I'm actually leaving them without stuff as they work to earn it, like I now remember I did before with The Sims 2.
I love that changing houses freezes the family so I can make my own story and families to interact with each other.
I'm still relearning the controls but some of them I like, some things I miss like being able to move a wall.
The remove wall works the first time, I was getting really frustrated in the sims 4 having to do it over and over again.
They interact readily with each other and animals so I feel like I can have fun watching more and don't have to micro-organize them for the game to progress.
Toddlers have bottles and they can do nursery rhymes, just wish I could keep them toddlers longer.
If you want to use a mod so toddlers and all others have a longer life span then get PhaenohLifeSpan mod, over on Mod The Sims site.
It won't work on current households but will work on the next household you create and add to hood.
It extends life stages and you can always use the cheat to age one up before any other Sim of the same age. I have been using it for several years now, and it works great. I don't know if it will kick in if another baby is born into a household after adding the mod to the game and having current households in the game. None of mine had any babies in that sort of situation.
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I use TwoJeff's sim blender which shows up in build buy as a plant that can be clicked on to open up a menu one of which is to take your sims back to their longest days in their current life span so as I enjoy playing toddlers and kids you can imagine how many times that gets used-) It also has a lot of other functions such as skilling up your sims and filling motive needs so i place this plant in all my community lots where I can use it to stop all sims from stinking when they have been there a while-)
Twojeff has apparently retired which I hadn't realized but his mods can be found on the following link and if you scroll down to the simblender.zip it downloads perfectly as I have just tried it.
you will find it after clicking the build/buy miscellaneous tab where you will see a fern for $1 I think it is. this is what it looks like when clicked on in game where the menu shows up
Apologies the menu is hard to see in the picture because I could not get any closer to take the pic but to the right there is a tab entitled aging and when you clicked on will provide you with a list of choices such as age up or down by so many days or the one i use a lot is reset sim back to max days which takes whichever sim back you choose back to the maxim days of their current lifespan.
All players have their own preferences to whatever mods they use but as I tried this one first then got used to all it's other multi functions as well I chose to keep it
I mainly play TS3.
I personally feel like its a variety of things. Nostalgic I feel like is a big factor. But personality wise, you can do more with the other sims games than you can with ts4. And like what the others are saying, you have the lifeless thing.
Like you, I would also play ts4 for such a short amount of time, then had my fill of it. But I could play hours and hours within the day on ts3.
I used to think that it was because I wasn't used to how ts4 worked, so I tried playing it more often to get the hang of it, but no matter how much or how long I played, I just wouldn't feel it.
I always end up going back to ts3.
Like, I love the fact that I can make my ss look a lot more like me, and I like the fact that I can do more with building, but that's all I really like about it. Not fond of the hair texture on ts4, though.
Sometimes All You Need Is A Warm Hug From Your Bestfriend
I had a different Sim later on a community lot, I watched two townies talking about one of my other Sims. One had the hearts speech bubble about one of my other Sims. I guess he was telling the other townie he liked her or was romantically interested in her. She was not on the lot. Shortly there after she showed up on the lot as if to find out who was crushing on her. lol But I had already told my Sim to go home and was in the process of leaving so I don't know what would become of all that as my Sim was leaving the lot. But the townies talk to my own Sims and other Sims about other Sims they are interested in romantically.
Two other Sims I play were on another lot while I played yet again a different Sim. I saw them talking about the one guy's promotion. So, they also talk about things to townies or other Sims that has happened to them.
Something else TS4 will never have, one of my Sims is a family Sim so of course he sometimes wants to get married etc. But his thought bubbles are a deeper look at what he is really thinking rather than what is in the want boxes. The three things that were in his wish list/want boxes had nothing to do with what he was thinking about. Yes, those are things he would like to do or get etc. however, what was really on his mind was getting engaged. His thought bubble was about getting engaged (it's like an extra slot in a thought bubble sometimes). Though his wants were to go to work, slow dance with someone, and something else, I can't remember the third one, he was really wanting to get engaged (soon, lol). He kept having that thought as he went through the house and or when I made him do things all day. lol
A few are family Sims and they have the want or thought bubbles to call the other family members (shows the face) and or is listed in the want panel. One mother is always wanting to call her son who is in college. Thought bubbles in TS2 are the very best. TS4 can never live up to any of that. She has that thought every few days. These are usually different than what is in the want panels.
My Sims talk about townies and others when they gossip. They aren't even on the lot sometimes when something happens with a townie, but if they gossip later or somewhere else, they know about it and tell someone else. lol It's very amusing. I'm shocked sometimes how they knew it. lol I'm not talking about burning a meal. The other day they were talking about one guy on the lot (he's so weird. He is dressed in that paint for sports fans' outfit, paint on the chest and a custom hairstyle/balding) when he walked over to them as if to say, Are you talking about me? lol They didn't even know him. lol It's no wonder.
A lot of people turned off thought and speech bubbles years ago, but they shouldn't they can find out a lot of funny and interesting stuff our Sims in TS2 know or think about.
Something else I like in TS2 that TS4 doesn't do correctly is tell me who my Sim is chatting with on the pc. I don't know if TS4 corrected this but it didn't have a list of which Sim to talk to when chatting online. TS2 does. Then in a few minutes you can get a message do you want to invite them over. It's a fun way to get to know a Sim you may have wanted your Sim to meet but couldn't find them on a community lot. Oh, and I also love the introduce feature which TS4 did eventually add, but it's how I introduced all my teen's boyfriends to her parents in TS2. lol
Invite entire household is one of the best also. Just in case you wanted the Sim to meet the adult daughter of your Sim friend but had a hard time getting them together. Just invite the whole household (if not at work) and it's an easy way to get to introduce someone you have plans for later. The other day I invited three different entire households. It's a good way to party and have dinner parties and or whatever, without the restrictions on how many visiting Sims are allowed on home lots at parties etc. Just do that with several households, it's a lot of fun just to invite them all if you want to get Sims to know and meet each other. Or party without restrictions. It's also good for entire families to gather if your Sim is losing their relationships with those they don't see much. And (something TS4 doesn't have) to take a family photo for the wall or desk. (Uni camera).
Myne doors, these are the best (might have already mentioned all this pages back) but I use them in elderly retirement homes and for teen rooms (which might have a stereo in it) and other things. Great for the boss's office door though you can lock out everyone in TS2 (you couldn't in TS4 for many months and months) and just let your Sim enter any door, why not have the boss's face on it? lol Great for Sims you have living in the same household who keep using your Sim bed or stereo or pc.
I love not all my TS2 Sims want to talk about art, cooking or whatever. lol They refuse, they put their hands out like I don't want to hear it. lol Or cross their arms during a conversation as if to say, sure, right, yeah, I don't believe it...lol
TS4 is all willy nilly. There is so much depth in TS2 and even in TS3 to a great degree, I don't have any idea why anyone can believe TS4 has more 'lively' Sims. I have to laugh at that, I really do. Lively in do you mean jumpy? Yes, that is true, but not more lively as in depth.
My Sims know how to care for themselves, like when they really need a shower. I don't need push buttons (TS4) to make them think, man, I need a shower. lol If I'm busy with another Sim, bless their little hearts they will go take a shower. Now, it might not be as fast as I would do it, (about half emtpy bar) but they do go take a shower. No buttons to 'autosolve' is needed. How childish is that to have to push buttons to make Sims think they might need a shower in TS4. lol
Sims know when other Sims are really hungry. On community lots even townies will fix hotdogs or a group salad or something if someone on the lot is really hungry. I usually don't make my Sim do the cooking at the grill anymore, because I know if someone is really hungry someone will do it. TS4 Sims do this just because that is what they are programmed to do...ever notice how many hot dog plates there are in a common area in that game? Sometimes dozens.
TS2 doesn't do it unless someone is hungry on the lot, that includes other townies. If my Sim waits long enough she/he won't have to cook at a grill. lol
Wait for food, we had to beg for a few years for TS4 to add set the table. But TS2 Sims were going to the table to wait to be served if someone was cooking a meal. And they had been settign the table for years. Yes, TS4 set the table is pretty but it doesn't mean much if those same Sims get up and take their plate upstairs to sit on the bed. Call to meal means come to the table and eat not take it upstairs. Though if there is no where else to sit they may remain standing in TS2 or may go to a near by most comfortable seat in a different room.
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TS4 is like that road stop, rest area you stop at while traveling a long distance. (by car). You are on your way to somewhere really nice, but pull off the road at a rest stop to use the bathroom, maybe eat a sandwhich and strech your legs, and a long time ago they had payphones, so you might make a phone call or two to let family know where you were and then get back in the car and travel on to your destination....TS5? lol
You left a nice place (home) to go see the world (TS3) and you had a vacation in mind, farther down the line, so you stopped off at TS4 for awhile but time to move on and get to the actual destination. It's so sad really. TS4 is a road stop along the highway of the series.
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