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Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?
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It is said that Lego where losing a lot of sales in the 2000s. I think they changed how they looked at things. It is clear that TS4 had a slower start than hoped and so EA should take a leaf out of Lego's book in order to survive the long term.
Both TS2 and TS3 where successful as they still catered to traditional players while trying new features out as well. TS4 shut out a lot of players hence the slow sales.
20 years is a long time for a lot of players. We brought the first game, funded the second and by buying that we funded the third and the forth.
Why should I fund the fifth when the forth was thrown back in my face?
I agree. Leadership at EA changed in 2013 though and things are so different now with the way they handle their games and their loyal customers. The old leadership before that was pretty cut-throat with the game studios it acquired, but game quality was excellent (Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect, Dead Space, The Sims 2 and 3, The Saboteur) and they treated their customers well (generous content in their games, great free incentives if you pre-ordered, special events were truly special).
I don't think the new leadership will learn anything though. They still have other games that do very well, like the FIFA series.
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In regard to the title of this thread, I agree, The Sims should start catering to the AFOTS. It was like that before with all the previous iterations and none of the kids who grew up playing those games got screwed up in the head or whatever, lol!
The look of sheer terror is priceless, lol!
In that hood, you had several bad mariages in an era (1920's to 1940's) where divorce wasn't commonplace as today, which led to deceit, but also the family struggles of a widow, hidden homosexuality for status reasons, and so on...
In TS4, there's not a single adult-themed setup that comes at the top of my head; something I personally miss.
For the visuals, that's a different story. Yes, I'd personally like the cake-girl, or the 'goose' (that 😢😢😢😢😢😢 goose
They only change the T rating to Mature if content becomes openly sexual, there is violence with blood, or some very strong language, which are very unlikely to be included in the Sims. The game is still T for teens but now they are catering more towards middle eastern payers who have a very different approach to sex and what is culturally and morally appropriate behavior. Hence, no more "goose" or cake dancers, or arm kissing.
Whether that means more family play (YES), or raunchier content (YESSSSSS), either way I am down.
The cake dancers in TS1 are a great example. Compare them to the "Party Dancers" of TS3, where they literally just show up and dance, and spray champagne on people.
Steamier romance interactions would be a great start.
Cuddling in bed, "goosing" etc etc, as well as more woohoo locations, and more "adult" animations to go with them: the change booths in TS1 Hot Date are really steamy. Sims 4 could never!
I mean, look at this! You only see their faces and their feet, and the female Sim gets on her knees
Only for a second, but you'd never see something like that in a modern Sims game.
I am shocked!
Shocked and appalled!
And I love it!
https://youtu.be/qKYxwQ-UytY?t=141
I get your point, and happen to be a person to whom woohoo is sacrosanct in a committed, loving relationship. However, that is not the only norm out there and it's our tendency to universalize our own point of view. There are too many people who live in polyamory to ignore or push aside as "doing it wrong". There may not be only one best human social and/or reproductive strategy. My spouse and I are "eagles" in that we're high-fidelity and have no desire to be otherwise. But I know people who naively believe that's us just oppressing ourselves, because in innocently universalizing their own experience, they assume everyone is inclined to poly because they are. On the other hand, there are people who believe poly is an aberration. You see? If we could all recognize that there's more than one right way, we can stop judging others for living differently. Yes, the high-fiving and team spirit cheer attitude toward woohoo is kind of lame...it takes it away from being anything intense and special and makes it like considering going on a picnic.
But framing it as only an intense thing with great gravity, as it is for me and my spouse, and others like us, would exclude the multitudes for whom it is preferred as a lighthearted, much more casual activity.
I use Passionate Romance mods and other mods to fill in my game.
Let's make Liberty and Justice For All a reality.
Now, the game is overly considerate, and holding our hands. Its tame. Its sunshine and rainbows, and happy happy sims. I wouldn't be surprised they took out or left out stuff because someone could get "offended" by it. People are so easily offended these days.
I could let my 10 year old niece jump into any of my families (after taking out my mods), and she would be safe. Eaxis is like our government, they give us laws and regulations, and limitations, to protect us from ourselves. The sims has lost its quirky silliness that made it the unique, fun game it was. Sure I still play it after 20 years, sure I have fun. I need mods to actually enjoy the game, though, to stop annoyances and add gameplay, not to mention townie "story" progression.
Do I want them to cater to AFOTS? Yes I do, but I want them to cater to everyone. Wasn't that the rating before? At least for TS1? E for everyone...? Can't get to my discs right now, but I'm pretty sure.
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They have all been rated T for teen.
I do love clean games but not too childish.
The Sims are supposed to be built like a digital Ken & Barbie. So, why do they need to be blurred.
Both my generation & my daughter's generation played with our Barbie & Ken dolls in our childhood we even undressed our dolls to bathe with them & changed their clothes frequently. Isn't that shocking. My daughter even had the nerve to have Disney Ariel doll sleep with her Prince Eric doll. And all at the age of 8. (I'm being sarcastic about playing with plastic doll that have no girl or boy bits. Lol)
Well most of us who were adults back when this show came around... pretty much knew where "humor" was going. I'm sure you probably rolled your eyes at this too.
...and naturally... we get more and more of that sort of content now.
We just want the humor of the Sims 1&2 back.
Those of us who want the "mature adult" R=stuff will mod it into our games.
I worked from the time I was 12 earning money helping my now late Dad at gardening (We'd get up at 7 in the morning on weekends and wouldn't get home until at least 10 at night - for me it was a weekend out with dad, but there was a lot of hard-work involved too) and knew what a hard days work is. I don't think today's children know what that kind of backbreaking work is. I'm now 50 and have worked practically my entire life until disability/physical injury took me out of the work force.
So EA needs to really think about where the actual money is coming from. From those who have an actual say in where their money comes from and how they discretionary spend their hard-earned dollars or from the teens and children who have to ask mommy for the money to buy the next half-baked expansion pack.
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sounds good to me but you know they would buy it anyway and demand everything be removed
I know girls that age who are more mature in their tastes and thinking than what the game is aimed at. Kids may be young, but they're not stupid.
The thing is, I know from personal experience, if you are totally overprotected when you are young, when the protection goes away (such as going off to college, moving out, actually having a relationship that turns intimate), you don't know what to do. In fact too often, people do exactly the opposite of what the overprotective people would have wanted them to do (ie getting roaring durnk in a party fraternity), and not only that, but they do it to excess way beyond what common sense should have dictated. Those who grow up with certain customs have the common sense to know how to handle things, more often than not.
I remember when sometimes it was a GORILLA jumping out of that cake