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Why isn't TS4 inclusive of family players?
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The Sims 4 was intended as an always-online game with young adult Sims. I saw the pattern that they quickly scrapped that idea when SimCity 2013 failed (I played that too). Next thing you know, some guy leaked info that TS4 was called “Project Olympus”. You can find some info about it on Google.
It wasn't really a confirmation. SimGuruSarah said it as an off the cuff remark as she explained they couldn't remember the story lines by this time anyway.
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/958714/cinebar-custom-content-clothes-updating-links/p1
TS4 is the LAZIEST effort I've ever witnessed. Like they couldn't be bothered to look up their records of past Sims stories? Even if they didn't keep records, they just have to look at fan-made The Sims websites to get the stories. Sheesh!
I also remember someone noting in one of the dev videos that they weren't even familiar with building features as they and a game changer built a lot together, showing me that they don't even play the game they're developing. Also add the fact that they don't seem to quality check any new features to see if it conflicts with past packs, adding more bugs to an every growing pile that still has yet to be fixed. It just tells me the devs don't care at all about this iteration.
For TS5, it should be a requirement that a potential dev candidate loves The Sims series and be an actual and avid simmer. How else can we see innovative gameplay and useful features like we saw in TS1, TS2 and TS3? The TS5 devs need to make sure that all simmers of whatever type of game player are included, including those who prefer to focus on family play and generations (family tree, memories, family scrap book).
The look of sheer terror is priceless, lol!
I'm not sure that would even work, now. We have people who suppossedly loved The Sims, played one or more of them. Loved them, then find out they think something like linear play was a good pack and good idea. Played them, were big fans of this series, thrilled to be working on it, then decide the game needs new players who have never played and decide to market to players who never heard it nor care about the series or it's strengths.
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/958714/cinebar-custom-content-clothes-updating-links/p1
“Couldn’t remember the storylines”... the Lore Enthusiast in me died a little. How could they
Some of the best memories I have Is playing imaginary games/hide and seek/ tag etc with my family.
Seeping with my parents durning a thunderstorm
Riding in the shopping cart
Water gun fights
Jumping on the bed like crazy with my sister. Etc (could go on and on)
Now when I see my family they cannot look 5 sec away from their phones or whatever and my sims feel the same. Cold and distant.
Barely any meaningful interactions with the children or between siblings.
It's the single party life style coupled with modern technology.
They can add all the universities and occults they want but all I ask is for simple meaningful bonded family play. I'm praying to get it before the sims 4 ends.
It's like when you run into a celeb and tell them the lines they spoke in some movie, lol, and go on and on about their acting and what happened in a scene with their character and how much you loved it, etc. And they don't remember. lol
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/958714/cinebar-custom-content-clothes-updating-links/p1
Isn't it a question of cancelling that action and getting them to do something else? Works for me. You have to keep a good eye on the left actions and wants actions in this game. If they get on their phone I stop them, simple.
It's more so an annoyance. I honestly just dont want so many things revolving around technology in my game. Sure I can cancel it and I always do but I like to play big families like 10 to 11 sims. They all want the computers and video games and every time I canceled it out for one sim another sim jumped on it. It was to the point I deleted all of that stuff only to find out I NEED a computer for ordering and careers and certain things. Now I have it locked up in a room with autonomy off.
I try to set up family time where everyone sits around and watch a movie eating popcorn. Cell phone calls start coming in. I accidentally clicked yes clicking too fast,ended up at a night club. Haha.
So yeah it's not a deal breaker but I shouldn't have to feel like I'm fighting with my sims .
Reading this literally warmed my heart. THOSE are the moments I crave to find in ts4
I choked laughing but I also cried inside at the same time.
Very good point. I always find it disheartening when a guru doesnt play/know their game like we do or more than we do.
The fact that it took years for them to release toddler is really telling already. For some reason their numbers and algorithms tell them players are not interested in family play and life stages that aren't Young Adult.
But of course if they go by the numbers now they will see that this is actually true, but not because we don't like playing with them but because we don't have much to do with them at all.
It's like when they said they stopped adding secret lots because people didn't visit them. Maybe if there was something fun to do in them...
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The latest packs and updates sure follow the gen Z trend. I hope EA will remember all the rest of their fans before they sacrifice all the year long fans in order to be a hype for teens.
This is the worst news from the guru's I have read in a long time. Can you link to the tweet of simgurugrant? At least it would explain what I perceive as a big flaw in Island living, namely the fact that sims can't share a boat.
To me family play has enough immersion to loose track of time. All the single sim activities and obsession with electronics and social media on the other hand makes me bored very quickly. To each his own of course, I know there are people who like this. But in general the game should offer a mix of family play and play for singles.
A deviant pack would also be nice. Or a stuff pack, maybe Get Killing?
@DragonCat159 I mean, maybe that could have had some influence back then when it was first released, but it's been years since the game went from Olympus to what we now have as TS4. They've had 5 years to work on improving the family play in the game and they really haven't. 29 packs released so far and a vast majority ignore the life stages outside of young adult. They continue to make packs and give not an ounce of gameplay to the non-YA life stage and there are so many places where they could give more to toddlers, kids, teens, and elders. That's what bothers me honestly, when they could give the other ages more, but they just don't.
@Bloosmoo I just wanted to say that you made a great point. I feel that a lot of people don't realize how much family play is lacking until they sit down and try it for themselves and see just how little the young ones can do.
I mean just look at the images of screenshots from Sims 2 Family Fun Stuff. I'd kill to have some of this stuff in TS4. Kids playing pirate, parent reading kids a book on the floor, playing dress up. I'd love to have it all.
https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/The_Sims_2:_Family_Fun_Stuff
That's where we're going in the Sims these days. I love Sims 4 but I hate how the game was built up to be a party simulator (and the 'boring' family stuff on the side.)
Please don't spread misinformation. You don't know what Grant personally believes and most of what you wrote sounds like either exaggeration or outright lies.
The irony of that, is that The Sims 1/2/3 had better parties than TS4. One of the main reasons would be that it wasn’t goal based and there were a lot more things to do, together.
My biggest gripe in TS4 was when I set up a wedding party, not a single guest went up to the altar to watch the ceremony. It was infuriating! Even though I called them all over. It never happened.