Sim Gurus: Are Morgan Fyres and Elle DeVampiro related? «12...Next Go

MaggieMarley

@afai1261 just pointed this out and I wondered if a Sim Guru could confirm or deny it. Don’t even know who to tag though...

I mean, the resemblance is pretty striking:

Elle DeVampiro

afai1261 wrote: »

MaggieMarley wrote: »

3. Elle DeVampo:

okay but why does she look like a slightly tweaked Morgan Fyres
Her eyebrows are red too


(Ignore the fact that Morgan's eyebrows look bad in this pic, it's because I aged her down to child first and then back up to YA)


how did I never know

Oldeseadogge

Not a guru, but suspect they were made using the same basic face option.

littlemissgogo

Ooh, maybe they could be sharing an ancestor? At least from a storytelling point of view. Probably why their mom never invites her side of the family over for the holidays.

Chazzzy

Not related. Morgan has a whole family in the game. She has a father, mother, and sister.

I don’t know who that other woman is. But as mentioned above, they were probably just made with the same basic features.

paradiseplanet

Tbh, I would totally use a similar Sim's facial feature to create a brand new Sim too.

LaBlue0314

Chazzzy wrote: »

Not related. Morgan has a whole family in the game. She has a father, mother, and sister.

I don’t know who that other woman is. But as mentioned above, they were probably just made with the same basic features.

I was thinking that maybe Ellie is supposed to be an ancestor, kind of like how Vlad is a cousin to the Climate family. When it comes to ancestors those family resemblances never die out. It would make a much better backstory than they just the same features.

afai1261

They even have the same voice and eyebrows






The only part of the facial structure that's been changed is forehead and cheek shape, but only slightly.

MaggieMarley

@Chazzzy Elle DeVampiro is a vampire from the Vampires game pack trailer. She and the other vampires from that trailer were uploaded to the gallery and there’s pictures of them on the walls of Vlad’s house. I know Morgan has a family but Elle is a vampire so could be Morgan’s great grandmother or something.

@LaBlue0314 yeah I mean Elle would be Morgan’s great grandmother or something probably!

I realise they probably do make sims from the same facial bases, but in this case it looks like they barely changed anything. Surely they wouldn’t have done that if they didn’t mean for us to think they were related?

afai1261

MaggieMarley wrote: »

LaBlue0314 yeah I mean Elle would be Morgan’s great grandmother or something probably!

okay I'm writing that into my main save immediately

LaBlue0314

afai1261 wrote: »

MaggieMarley wrote: »

LaBlue0314 yeah I mean Elle would be Morgan’s great grandmother or something probably!

okay I'm writing that into my main save immediately

Me too, love it.

MaggieMarley

This is soooo creepy. I dressed up Morgan Fyres in Elle DeVampiro's makeup and hair with the same clothes, skin colour and eye colour. I then dressed up Elle DeVampiro in Morgan's clothes with the same hair, eye colour, skin colour and makeup. Weirdly, they actually had all the same makeup to begin with except for a different eye shadow. I made Morgan a YA because Elle is a YA but I did not change the facial features of either. Here are the results…

Elle DeVampiro dressed up as Morgan Fyres:


Morgan Fyres:


Elle DeVampiro dressed as Morgan Fyres:


Morgan Fyres:


Elle DeVampiro dressed as Morgan Fyres:


Morgan Fyres:


Morgan Fyres dressed up as Elle DeVampiro:


Elle DeVampiro:


Morgan Fyres dressed up as Elle DeVampiro:


Elle DeVampiro:


Morgan Fyres dressed up as Elle DeVampiro:


Elle DeVampiro:


@afai1261 and @LaBlue0314 you two might be interested in this!

afai1261

omg yes

I love it

afai1261

Oh, and I also noticed that the curve of Elle's eyes is different, but the same basic shape

MaggieMarley

@afai1261 too much resemblance to be coincidental. I really want some confirmation of this though.

MaggieMarley

Some theories:

1. Elle is Morgan’s grandmother/great grandmother (from Moira’s side of the family).

2. OR Elle and Siobhan are (non identical) twins. Elle left home and became a vampire (I would say that Morgan and Elle are twins but Elle is a YA and Morgan is a teen so that complicates things).

3. OR Elle is Morgan’s twin. The vampire pack obviously came out after Get Together, by which time Morgan could be a YA. Maybe Elle left home as a teenager (which is why she wasn’t living with the Fyres when GT came out) and became a vampire. She’s shown in the vampire trailer several years later, having become a YA.

4. OR Siobhan wasn’t Moira and Dominic Fyre’s eldest child. Their eldest was a girl called Elle, who rebelled, left home and became a vampire.

5. OR Moira had a teenage pregnancy (potentially the father was a vampire) before she met Dominic and gave birth to Elle who was put up for adoption...

6. OR early in Moira and Dominic’s marriage, Moira had an affair with a vampire. She got pregnant with Elle, who was subsequently given up for adoption.

LaBlue0314

There is one option you didn't mention, maybe Morgan is the reincarnation of Ellie. It happens all the time in movies.

MaggieMarley

@LaBlue0314 haha interesting! Or vice versa?

afai1261

Okay so I'm writing a simlit about Moira and Morgan and Morgan's brother Niall who I featured in the vampire thread. Anyway, in my simlit, Morgan and Niall's father (and Elle's too) is a sim I made, Rory Flannagan.

I'm thinking maybe Elle (born as Eilis) was born before Moira and Rory's marriage and put up for adoption because traditional Catholicism, and she disliked her adoptive family and sought solace in Forgotten Hollow, where she was turned into a vampire by Nicholas Grey. If you remember from the vampire thread, Nicholas is the vampire who turned Morgan.
Eilis changes her name to Elle DeVampiro and lives in hiding in Vlad's mansion with him and his brother Max, never knowing that (SPOILER FOR SIMLIT COMING UP)

her father has died and Moira has now married a man with a daughter the same age as Elle (Siobhan)

Okay, so I'm going to integrate her into my story now

I haven't started properly writing it, I have passages and snippets and I know how I want it to end, and I already have plans for a sequel, but I don't even know where to start

MaggieMarley

@afai1261 I don’t generally read simlit but I’ll definitely read yours when you write it. Sounds awesome! And omg is it my Max you are using?

afai1261

MaggieMarley wrote: »

@afai1261 I don’t generally read simlit but I’ll definitely read yours when you write it. Sounds awesome! And omg is it my Max you are using?

Obviously

MaggieMarley

afai1261 wrote: »

MaggieMarley wrote: »

@afai1261 I don’t generally read simlit but I’ll definitely read yours when you write it. Sounds awesome! And omg is it my Max you are using?

Obviously

YAY!!!

citysimmer

I've always loved the gallery vampires, and when you dressed Elle as Morgan, she looked like her evil twin!
Perhaps she's Moira's estranged elder sister who was always a bit odd, ran away to become a vampire as a teen and was never seen again, becoming a high-profile missing person case.

Magdaleena

Chazzzy wrote: »

Not related. Morgan has a whole family in the game. She has a father, mother, and sister.

I don’t know who that other woman is. But as mentioned above, they were probably just made with the same basic features.

That's not a whole family. Do consider that vampires can get really, really old. Elle is absolutely an ancestor.

Anyway yes I love this theory and it's absolutely my headcanon now. Morgan's ancestor is a vampire.
Makes me wonder how it all went down. I guess Elle turned after having children?

Elle being Morgan's estranged goth sister is also an option, sure. But the ancestor thing makes more sense... especially since she shows up in ancient-looking build mode paintings.

MaggieMarley

@Magdaleena I’m glad somebody else sees the resemblance! I would have agreed with you about the paintings, but when I went into Build Mode I couldn’t find a painting of Elle (though I could find paintings of many of the other trailer vampires) which made me wonder whether she might be a very recently turned vampire. The fact she looks so similar to Morgan (they’re almost identical) makes me incline towards the theory they could be long lost siblings. I mean, Elle looks more like Morgan than Morgan’s own mother does and you would think that a female ancestor even further removed from Morgan than her mother would look even less like Morgan than Morgan’s mother does. Having said that, I guess strong family resemblances irl can skip generations.

Magdaleena

@MaggieMarley Hm, well then, that changes things. So she isn't actually in any of the paintings like the other trailer vampires are....

Then I guess I'm gonna lean a little more into the "long lost goth sister" theory, then. And yeah, she does look a ton like Morgan, it's rather uncanny. It would be nice to know more sometime - is she an ancestor who didn't actually get a painting, or a lost sister? :thinking:

Also, have the SimGurus ever responded to questions about the premade sims? I can't recall.

MaggieMarley

@Magdaleena I’m not sure but they’ve never responded to this question - I’d like if they did because I’m really curious!