I think the majority of the players who are always clamoring for more content are those who were never initially on board with a particular pack. They think the next pack is going to solve all their problems with sims 4 and when it doesn't they're back on the forum, in mere days or weeks, speculating about and wanting the next release.
I've already seen people commenting how Get Famous is not what they wanted, or they promised not to buy another pack until a specific one they wanted was released or they just flat out said they're not buying. Yet here they are. "I'm going to buy it anyway." "Maybe it will have this or maybe it will have that." "I'm not interested in the gameplay but I want the new CAS, or Build/Buy." Or "I didn't really want it but my mother, cousin, best friend, boyfriend, husband bought it for me and I didn't want to hurt their feelings by returning it." Those are the players who will be back on the forum before the end of the year claiming boredom with Get Famous.
Exactly. I suspect the ones who aren't bored, aren't posting... or are posting in Sims 4 Creative Corner instead.
I'm not bored I like talking about whats coming or what might come and I like suggesting ideas its fun
I think the majority of the players who are always clamoring for more content are those who were never initially on board with a particular pack. They think the next pack is going to solve all their problems with sims 4 and when it doesn't they're back on the forum, in mere days or weeks, speculating about and wanting the next release.
I've already seen people commenting how Get Famous is not what they wanted, or they promised not to buy another pack until a specific one they wanted was released or they just flat out said they're not buying. Yet here they are. "I'm going to buy it anyway." "Maybe it will have this or maybe it will have that." "I'm not interested in the gameplay but I want the new CAS, or Build/Buy." Or "I didn't really want it but my mother, cousin, best friend, boyfriend, husband bought it for me and I didn't want to hurt their feelings by returning it." Those are the players who will be back on the forum before the end of the year claiming boredom with Get Famous.
Exactly. I suspect the ones who aren't bored, aren't posting... or are posting in Sims 4 Creative Corner instead.
I'm not bored I like talking about whats coming or what might come and I like suggesting ideas its fun
Also posting and participating on the forum is part of the whole simming and sharing experience. Not a barometer of who's bored and who's not.
Sims 4 seems to be steering towards the subscription model more than anything else. The way people complained about the initial launch with very little in it, and the fact that they've started downloadable content that requires other downloadable content, says to me that their capitalizing on the way people buy and play. Which is, in bursts and around new content. It makes sense to encourage and profit from that behavior by keeping new content less ambitious in size but more frequent, and to expand the price range. Also the Gallery sells the new content for them once you're in the game. It's good for their business, not so good for us. We miss horses in our pets packs, witches and fairies in our vampire pack and fame is separate from the city. Those things might come out separately later. We're only complaining because we're used to things being different. We'll get used to this. We probably shouldn't be so eager for Sims 5. There's no way this area of the game presentation wouldn't be worse.
@Stormview, I'm not understanding some of your posts, especially about EA/Youtubers and fame. Most of us here in this thread don't follow Youtuber Let's Play players. We don't have any interest in becoming famous or making money off any games, (maybe we should, easy money) we just want a game we don't have to wait months to see something more interesting and or wait on patches that never come, so whatever we were playing before something glitched or broke we don't have to wait two or three years for them to find it, only for it to break again with another patch, or EP or GP etc. Your last post I could understand, no, we don't want to wait forever, and seven years to see a slow dance, or Sims facing each other while dancing, or chemistry system, or whatever anyone is waiting on shouldn't have cost us seven years, and over $600 to finally see in a game about life.
You do not understand me, ?my post, you state the very reason, Why,? because... you're not one of we. lol. Understand its 10 million sims 4 games sold, so that's a whole lot of we's, Some understand you and some understand me. hahaha and then its all the other simmers who is 10 million right. ?
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we'll give you a full refund. Just make sure you make your request within 24 hours after you first launch the game, within seven days from your date of purchase, or within seven days from the game's release date if you pre-ordered, whichever comes first.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
After today announcement of small worlds being blamed on game performance I do not think this game needs or can handle another 3 years worth of content or at least handle the quality of content I'd want to see without limitation after limitation.
Sims 4 went from "You Rule" to "One of the stories we want you to tell"
After today announcement of small worlds being blamed on game performance I do not think this game needs or can handle another 3 years worth of content or at least handle the quality of content I'd want to see without limitation after limitation.
Exactly. Is it really because of performance (maybe since it's built for cheaper laptops rather than desktops) then we can expect and not hold our breaths waiting on another new world that is possibly only four lots, instead of the six residential lots in the new EP. It would be better to go out on top (if it is on top) instead of wrecking a good run, and put all that money on a new game. Instead of watching even faithful fans of TS4 start to belittle it. When they are fed up you know something someone said who wasn't as devoted were probably right all along.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
After today announcement of small worlds being blamed on game performance I do not think this game needs or can handle another 3 years worth of content or at least handle the quality of content I'd want to see without limitation after limitation.
I'm feeling the same way. I say don't rush into it, but they should be working on getting a good quality Sims 5 game done. They have got to realize the shortcomings of The Sims 4 by now (and probably quite awhile ago). Learn from your mistakes in creating The Sims 4 and start over with a Sims 5 that will amaze us and be the best of the franchise.
Unfortunately, to do it right, it will probably take a couple of years or more to develop. So the said news is that, like it or not, we're gonna be stuck with The Sims 4 for quite awhile yet.
After today announcement of small worlds being blamed on game performance I do not think this game needs or can handle another 3 years worth of content or at least handle the quality of content I'd want to see without limitation after limitation.
I'm feeling the same way. I say don't rush into it, but they should be working on getting a good quality Sims 5 game done. They have got to realize the shortcomings of The Sims 4 by now (and probably quite awhile ago). Learn from your mistakes in creating The Sims 4 and start over with a Sims 5 that will amaze us and be the best of the franchise.
Unfortunately, to do it right, it will probably take a couple of years or more to develop. So the said news is that, like it or not, we're gonna be stuck with The Sims 4 for quite awhile yet.
Fortunately for me I'll start my ''adult'' life so I won't have time for The Sims and no more time to waste my money for a rushed game. And maybe I'll be able to play when TS5 will be here with a lot of good content.
more frequent, and to expand the price range. Also the Gallery sells the new content for them once you're in the game.
It's good for their business, not so good for us. We miss horses in our pets packs, witches and fairies in our vampire pack and fame is separate from the city. Those things might come out separately later. We're only complaining because we're used to things being different. We'll get used to this. We probably shouldn't be so eager for Sims 5. There's no way this area of the game presentation wouldn't be worse.
I agree with so much of what you're saying.
but they started this behavior we just got involved Because we trusted them and wanted to be their friend.
Now capitalizing on profits is a lot different than commercialism practices and attitudes that are concerned with the making of profit at the expense of quality., This to me is what they are beginning to do unnecessary so with Sims 4 only? with sims 2 they did their best and sims 3 they loved making it wonderful. and they did.
The story of the Simmers Market
Think of it this way, You have a favorite market, and when you first started going to this supermarket, you just loved their bread. so you would always go there for bread, They had the best and you did not mind the cost because it was always worth it. then the market started making the bread different and you complained, and so did others, it was not so bad you could still eat it. then that market started it with cheap flour, you know the bleached kind. then no real butter, but chicken fat lol, missing ingredients. Then started making you wait for the bread, they said only one Tuesdays you can get the bread, then only every other Tuesday you can get the bread. so when the day finally came when you could get bread people were waiting for the bread all the way around the block , and of course they sold out every time, this way they really sold a lot more bread but never did they bring that quality back to the way it was, they only made promises, they liked the desperation of the people for their bread, and even told the people you can only get this bread once a month, also you can prepay just in case they run out if you prepay you will be on the list and get it before dinner a sure sale for the smart ones only. , but the bread just was not the same and it has less and less content it was just not good, but you wait so long your starving for bread, so yea you buy it. and maybe even prepay.
So then they thought we could make even more money if we just made the bread at the last minute, from anything that the farmers sale us at half off, oh no the people want egg bread, Who Cares and we will not be getting real eggs anymore.
We could make the potato bread from old potatoes, all sort of cheap ways and it would still make them happy once they eat it. just never let them know until they are desperate and already in line to pay. hahaha
If anyone complains about our bread, we can tell them how hard we worked to make it good, not our fault it's an old stove. hehe.
we'll give you a full refund. Just make sure you make your request within 24 hours after you first launch the game, within seven days from your date of purchase, or within seven days from the game's release date if you pre-ordered, whichever comes first.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
more frequent, and to expand the price range. Also the Gallery sells the new content for them once you're in the game.
It's good for their business, not so good for us. We miss horses in our pets packs, witches and fairies in our vampire pack and fame is separate from the city. Those things might come out separately later. We're only complaining because we're used to things being different. We'll get used to this. We probably shouldn't be so eager for Sims 5. There's no way this area of the game presentation wouldn't be worse.
I agree with so much of what you're saying.
but they started this behavior we just got involved Because we trusted them and wanted to be their friend.
Now capitalizing on profits is a lot different than commercialism practices and attitudes that are concerned with the making of profit at the expense of quality., This to me is what they are beginning to do unnecessary so with Sims 4 only? with sims 2 they did their best and sims 3 they loved making it wonderful. and they did.
The story of the Simmers Market
Think of it this way, You have a favorite market, and when you first started going to this supermarket, you just loved their bread. so you would always go there for bread, They had the best and you did not mind the cost because it was always worth it. then the market started making the bread different and you complained, and so did others, it was not so bad you could still eat it. then that market started it with cheap flour, you know the bleached kind. then no real butter, but chicken fat lol, missing ingredients. Then started making you wait for the bread, they said only one Tuesdays you can get the bread, then only every other Tuesday you can get the bread. so when the day finally came when you could get bread people were waiting for the bread all the way around the block , and of course they sold out every time, this way they really sold a lot more bread but never did they bring that quality back to the way it was, they only made promises, they liked the desperation of the people for their bread, and even told the people you can only get this bread once a month, also you can prepay just in case they run out if you prepay you will be on the list and get it before dinner a sure sale for the smart ones only. , but the bread just was not the same and it has less and less content it was just not good, but you wait so long your starving for bread, so yea you buy it. and maybe even prepay.
So then they thought we could make even more money if we just made the bread at the last minute, from anything that the farmers sale us at half off, oh no the people want egg bread, Who Cares and we will not be getting real eggs anymore.
We could make the potato bread from old potatoes, all sort of cheap ways and it would still make them happy once they eat it. [/b] just never let them know until they are desperate and already in line to pay.[/b] hahaha
If anyone complains about our bread, we can tell them how hard we worked to make it good, not our fault it's an old stove. hehe.
LOL, this was funny.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
I won't have much time for any Sims games until December so I won't miss anything if they decide to release more packs or DLC between now and December.
After today announcement of small worlds being blamed on game performance I do not think this game needs or can handle another 3 years worth of content or at least handle the quality of content I'd want to see without limitation after limitation.
Oh man if that is true that me really blows, Sims 4 supposed to be the greatest thing since toast bread being it does not have an lot of features to overwhelm it. I just can't get peps for this game or packs but it is what it is for an average game.
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I don't think it's the water itself that is the holdup, I think it's the extra routing programming needed to tell the sims they can't just follow the terrain under the water while they walk somewhere. With an actual pool it's different since the terrain is literally cut, so the routing calculations already know to miss out terrain that is literally not there any more. If it's just under shallow water (which remember is just a visual item) but still otherwise walkable, then they'll be walking through it as if it's not there. So all that completely new type of edge detection needs to be added.
I don't think it's the water itself that is the holdup, I think it's the extra routing programming needed to tell the sims they can't just follow the terrain under the water while they walk somewhere. With an actual pool it's different since the terrain is literally cut, so the routing calculations already know to miss out terrain that is literally not there any more. If it's just under shallow water (which remember is just a visual item) but still otherwise walkable, then they'll be walking through it as if it's not there. So all that completely new type of edge detection needs to be added.
They only need Depth detection, that easier. and then it would count for the entire game. oh nooo, I forgot, they do not know how to do snow Depth?? so they may not know how to detect Depth, cries.
Whispers, shhh do not tell them our builders are smart they know how to do workarounds so you will have ponds in the gallery. But it's not fair we are tired of having to work around. and we do not want them to always wait for the Mods to do their work for them. So do not tell them its ok not to have the water tool for ponds. our secret.
we'll give you a full refund. Just make sure you make your request within 24 hours after you first launch the game, within seven days from your date of purchase, or within seven days from the game's release date if you pre-ordered, whichever comes first.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
Ok with the "water table" idea then yes, terrain below a certain height can indeed be deleted from the routing data. That is, water is a fixed height representing sea level and you dig down to get to it. You don't need a water tool for that, just digging with a terrain tool will do it. However, people will also want to make lily ponds etc, even when the lot is on fairly high ground. This is what we mean when we ask for water tools. So although it's perfectly doable to detect a water edge - it's been done in all the previous games - if it's going to be introduced from scratch in this particular incarnation then that is a new project for them to schedule in, so it will take it's time and resources over and above just shoving in a shiny ripply texture. That's all I am saying.
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I've seen a good number of folks asking/commenting about the smaller size of Del Sol Valley. The simple answer to this is that as we create more and more packs we have to be very thoughtful about game performance and this includes the number of lots/Sims.
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So we will be getting smaller and smaller worlds from now on?
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Not necessarily. But it definitely becomes a balancing act. And our amazing engineers are constantly at work on optimizing and improving performance.
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Zii-Ghoul 🧟♀️ @ziistel
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This is a bit of a bummer. Will we expect smaller worlds from now on?
I’m assuming less is going to be in an EP because of gameplay performance?
Or they chose to make smaller worlds, so that gameplay and items wouldn’t have to be cut out.
Kate 🔜 TwitchCon @SimGuruKate
It doesn't mean all new worlds will be smaller. But it does mean not every new world will be "large". Some will be on the smaller side, while others will be on the larger side.
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But the pack price remains the same? I'm confused...
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Worlds aren’t the only part of a pack. There’s gameplay and items that contribute to the overall size of a pack.
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But all other expansions have new careers, gameplay etc? I have been avoiding spoilers but I hope the rest of the pack makes up for the smaller world.
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I’d say check out our upcoming streams if you want to know more and help you decide if it’s worth it for you. I can tell you that new fame system is extremely detailed and so customizable. And the active Acting Career is something incredibly unique and well done.
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I personally don’t think you guys need to worry about game preformance. You guys made a good base for The Sims 4 to work on preformance wise and almost every other pack hasn’t really affected the game’s preformance for TS4 from what I’ve seen.
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The reason it hasn't impacted the game's performance is because of the care and attention that is paid to ensuring optimization with each new pack that is released.
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we'll give you a full refund. Just make sure you make your request within 24 hours after you first launch the game, within seven days from your date of purchase, or within seven days from the game's release date if you pre-ordered, whichever comes first.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
If such care and attention was being paid to optimisation before, then why are they claiming only now, that they're having to make smaller worlds? The only answer is that they're paying LESS care to optimisation and making up for it with smaller worlds. While charging the same price, of course.
Which would logically allow them to pump out packs sooner for more money.
Prepping a list of mods to add after Infants are placed into the game. Because real life isn't 'nice'.
EA/Maxis already said we are allowed 80 sims for optimal gameplay, and truly it's just 79, they will not allow 80.
So in the next years, this number could become less and less. and the worlds and content smaller.
I did not sign up for this. So I think If the engine cannot handle even the simplest of plans then let's end this and strap Sims 4 Go on to a better game engine and save the Simmers the great disappointment after the years of waiting.
I would not mind if they even started SIms 4 over on a new engine, and call it Sims 4, Two. Why throw good money after bad money?
we'll give you a full refund. Just make sure you make your request within 24 hours after you first launch the game, within seven days from your date of purchase, or within seven days from the game's release date if you pre-ordered, whichever comes first.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
I changed my mind. If they need to make del sol valley that tiny so they can add more content then no. 3 years? No thanks! Devs can then stop waste their time on sims 4 if there is always some problems and they cant do it. Let some other game company make new sims searie
EA/Maxis already said we are allowed 80 sims for optimal gameplay, and truly it's just 79, they will not allow 80.
So in the next years, this number could become less and less. and the worlds and content smaller.
I did not sign up for this. So I think If the engine cannot handle even the simplest of plans then let's end this and strap Sims 4 Go on to a better game engine and save the Simmers the great disappointment after the years of waiting.
I would not mind if they even started SIms 4 over on a new engine, and call it Sims 4, Two. Why throw good money after bad money?
Unfortunately if they do that a lot of people won't even trust to buy.... Then again maybe that's just me lol. I think I would hang up my simming at least as far as trying to keep up with the sims 5 or whatever. Not saying I'm depending on 4 but I think I've paid enough money to them and I'm at the point where I wouldn't want to touch yet another sims game made by them with a ten foot pole. The trust would definitely be broken. But I get what you're saying.
"Bada su the gorn bada su the brawn bada bady oda aba donk donk donk gerbits gerbits vo gerbits".
EA/Maxis already said we are allowed 80 sims for optimal gameplay, and truly it's just 79, they will not allow 80.
The games says recommended number of sims is 200. where are you getting the number 80 from?
Our households in Sims 4, the ones with the hearts, you can go to unlimited if you like but not recommended. Recommended is 80, really 79 I think lower is to have no lag and fast login.
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we'll give you a full refund. Just make sure you make your request within 24 hours after you first launch the game, within seven days from your date of purchase, or within seven days from the game's release date if you pre-ordered, whichever comes first.
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I'm not bored I like talking about whats coming or what might come and I like suggesting ideas its fun
Also posting and participating on the forum is part of the whole simming and sharing experience. Not a barometer of who's bored and who's not.
It's good for their business, not so good for us. We miss horses in our pets packs, witches and fairies in our vampire pack and fame is separate from the city. Those things might come out separately later. We're only complaining because we're used to things being different. We'll get used to this. We probably shouldn't be so eager for Sims 5. There's no way this area of the game presentation wouldn't be worse.
You do not understand me, ?my post,
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
Exactly. Is it really because of performance (maybe since it's built for cheaper laptops rather than desktops) then we can expect and not hold our breaths waiting on another new world that is possibly only four lots, instead of the six residential lots in the new EP. It would be better to go out on top (if it is on top) instead of wrecking a good run, and put all that money on a new game. Instead of watching even faithful fans of TS4 start to belittle it. When they are fed up you know something someone said who wasn't as devoted were probably right all along.
I'm feeling the same way. I say don't rush into it, but they should be working on getting a good quality Sims 5 game done. They have got to realize the shortcomings of The Sims 4 by now (and probably quite awhile ago). Learn from your mistakes in creating The Sims 4 and start over with a Sims 5 that will amaze us and be the best of the franchise.
Unfortunately, to do it right, it will probably take a couple of years or more to develop. So the said news is that, like it or not, we're gonna be stuck with The Sims 4 for quite awhile yet.
Fortunately for me I'll start my ''adult'' life so I won't have time for The Sims and no more time to waste my money for a rushed game. And maybe I'll be able to play when TS5 will be here with a lot of good content.
I agree with so much of what you're saying.
but they started this behavior we just got involved Because we trusted them and wanted to be their friend.
Now capitalizing on profits is a lot different than commercialism practices and attitudes that are concerned with the making of profit at the expense of quality., This to me is what they are beginning to do unnecessary so with Sims 4 only? with sims 2 they did their best and sims 3 they loved making it wonderful. and they did.
Then started making you wait for the bread, they said only one Tuesdays you can get the bread, then only every other Tuesday you can get the bread. so when the day finally came when you could get bread people were waiting for the bread all the way around the block , and of course they sold out every time, this way they really sold a lot more bread but never did they bring that quality back to the way it was, they only made promises, they liked the desperation of the people for their bread, and even told the people you can only get this bread once a month, also you can prepay just in case they run out if you prepay you will be on the list and get it before dinner a sure sale for the smart ones only. , but the bread just was not the same and it has less and less content it was just not good, but you wait so long your starving for bread, so yea you buy it. and maybe even prepay.
So then they thought we could make even more money if we just made the bread at the last minute, from anything that the farmers sale us at half off, oh no the people want egg bread, Who Cares and we will not be getting real eggs anymore.
We could make the potato bread from old potatoes, all sort of cheap ways and it would still make them happy once they eat it. just never let them know until they are desperate and already in line to pay. hahaha
If anyone complains about our bread, we can tell them how hard we worked to make it good, not our fault it's an old stove. hehe.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
LOL, this was funny.
Oh man if that is true that me really blows, Sims 4 supposed to be the greatest thing since toast bread being it does not have an lot of features to overwhelm it. I just can't get peps for this game or packs but it is what it is for an average game.
They only need Depth detection, that easier. and then it would count for the entire game. oh nooo, I forgot, they do not know how to do snow Depth?? so they may not know how to detect Depth, cries.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
@SimGuruKate
I've seen a good number of folks asking/commenting about the smaller size of Del Sol Valley. The simple answer to this is that as we create more and more packs we have to be very thoughtful about game performance and this includes the number of lots/Sims.
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So we will be getting smaller and smaller worlds from now on?
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Not necessarily. But it definitely becomes a balancing act. And our amazing engineers are constantly at work on optimizing and improving performance.
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This is a bit of a bummer. Will we expect smaller worlds from now on?
I’m assuming less is going to be in an EP because of gameplay performance?
Or they chose to make smaller worlds, so that gameplay and items wouldn’t have to be cut out.
Kate 🔜 TwitchCon
@SimGuruKate
It doesn't mean all new worlds will be smaller. But it does mean not every new world will be "large". Some will be on the smaller side, while others will be on the larger side.
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But the pack price remains the same? I'm confused...
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Worlds aren’t the only part of a pack. There’s gameplay and items that contribute to the overall size of a pack.
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But all other expansions have new careers, gameplay etc? I have been avoiding spoilers but I hope the rest of the pack makes up for the smaller world.
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@SimGuruKate
I’d say check out our upcoming streams if you want to know more and help you decide if it’s worth it for you. I can tell you that new fame system is extremely detailed and so customizable. And the active Acting Career is something incredibly unique and well done.
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I personally don’t think you guys need to worry about game preformance. You guys made a good base for The Sims 4 to work on preformance wise and almost every other pack hasn’t really affected the game’s preformance for TS4 from what I’ve seen.
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The reason it hasn't impacted the game's performance is because of the care and attention that is paid to ensuring optimization with each new pack that is released.
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Which would logically allow them to pump out packs sooner for more money.
So in the next years, this number could become less and less. and the worlds and content smaller.
I did not sign up for this. So I think If the engine cannot handle even the simplest of plans then let's end this and strap Sims 4 Go on to a better game engine and save the Simmers the great disappointment after the years of waiting.
I would not mind if they even started SIms 4 over on a new engine, and call it Sims 4, Two. Why throw good money after bad money?
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
Unfortunately if they do that a lot of people won't even trust to buy.... Then again maybe that's just me lol. I think I would hang up my simming at least as far as trying to keep up with the sims 5 or whatever. Not saying I'm depending on 4 but I think I've paid enough money to them and I'm at the point where I wouldn't want to touch yet another sims game made by them with a ten foot pole. The trust would definitely be broken. But I get what you're saying.
The games says recommended number of sims is 200. where are you getting the number 80 from?
Our households in Sims 4, the ones with the hearts, you can go to unlimited if you like but not recommended. Recommended is 80, really 79 I think lower is to have no lag and fast login.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor