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Should they keep on releasing Stuff Packs ?
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Should they keep on releasing Stuff Packs ?
Should they keep on releasing Stuff Packs ?
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Should they keep on releasing Stuff Packs ? 347 votes
Yes
53%
186 votes
No, EP and GP are enough.
16%
56 votes
No, I would prefer World Packs like they did with TS3 Store.
6%
23 votes
No, I would prefer a Store.
3%
12 votes
No, I would prefer more Game Packs.
20%
70 votes
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Splitting up content you've released not once, not twice, but three times before behind a $10 dollar pack is absurd. Releasing stuff packs with the same exact theme you just released months/weeks prior is even more ridiculous.
The issue with The Sims 4's DLC is that packs are too specific. The solution is to have them cover a wider scope of a theme and stick to perfecting expansions with many game packs between. Game packs were a really good idea, it's just disappointing that they do not make enough of them, and that they did not use them in the replacement of stuff packs.
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I think SP's should continue but make it a max of 2 per year.
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Stuff Packs should just be merged into EP and GP.
That is a rather odd line of thought. A lot of custom content is only able to be made because of "stuff" that was officially released. Most people are not out there making their own meshes.
All Sims 4 stuff packs DO have game play - in fact with out them we would not have all the game play we have. As they put gameplay items in stuff packs neither the ep or gp team want to add to their packs. Every single stuff packs has given me game play I would have been unhappy if I did not have it. Sims 4 is the first of the Sims games that allowed game play items in a stuff pack and it is the only way we can get these items.
CC makers cannot make game play they can only make restyles and recolors of the games game play items and /or meshed items. That's why for 10 bucks the sps are a real bargain. The game would be very empty without those sps - believe me. The CC would not be usable if you do not have the original game play items and meshes in your game from the sps - eps & gps.
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Custom Content Creators use officially released "stuff" from Game Pack and Expansion Packs as well. That's where the "stuff" should be, not in its own separate package. Having a Stuff Pack team is a waste of resources that should just go to Expansion Packs and Game Packs. All the extra costs incurred through advertising and designing the Stuff Packs could also be put to better use in a GP or EP
I find it hard to believe that you consider a rock climbing treadmill and a slip 'n' slide to be important enough gameplay to give them their own exclusive packs. They could have easily merged all those items into GPs and EPs. I'm not saying they're "bad" content, they just don't deserve their own packs and price tags.
I also find it hard to believe that the content from Stuff Packs is stuff that GPs and EP developers didn't want. Really, the creators of Cats & Dogs didn't want to use hamsters? Why? And why didn't the creators of City Living want butlers? Doesn't make much sense either.
You are not getting the fact that the TEAMS of the ep and gp devs had no interest in making any of the gameplay items that was in stuff packs in their packs. If they don't want to - they don't have to. That was explained when the game came out. There would not be a hot tub, a pop corn maker, the bowling alley, the kids computer game with void creatures, the toddler play stuff, the Butler, the Washer and Dryer, the Ice cream maker, make up table, the banquet tables and fountain - among other things. Maybe they were not something YOU wanted but they were very much something I wanted. I like the slip n' slide and rock wall climber - and judging from the sales of these packs I am not alone. I like the fact it was an affordable option that would not have even existed without the sps.
Why not just be satisfied NOT to buy those packs if you do not like the SP game play, but do not deprive the rest of us that do like them - they take NOTHING away from eps and gps because they were NOT planned for those packs - ever, and the sps have their own separate team. I bought all the sps because I simply like the sps and they are affordable.
You seem to forget there was also new hairs, new clothes, new furniture, new decor, in every one of those packs as well. It was game play plus stuff. Most packs have several game play items, not just 1.
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You say that some developers don't want to make gameplay, just stuff: like hair, furniture, clothing etc. There's nothing wrong with that. But, why does it need to be its own dedicated pack? There are people on the EPs and GPs teams who don't add gameplay, they just add stuff like clothes and furniture. Why does it need to come in a $10 pack? All of the items you listed could have been part of a GP or EP. There is no reason any of them should have cost an extra $10 in a separate pack. And, again, I'm not criticizing their work or their effort, I'm just saying the sales model is not right.
In the Sims 1,2 & 3, all of the items you listed came in an Expansion Pack, why should I have pay an extra $10 for a hot tub or a banquet table? Despite the low price for them, when you put the cost of EPs, GPs, and SPs together, you are paying more for less.
And I also find it interesting that you say that the items in Stuff Packs were not "intended for EPs." When the My First Pets Stuff pack that came out in Spring, there was an entire furniture set of furniture that was designed in the exact SAME style as one that came in 2017 with Cats & Dogs. It was clearly intended for that EP.
Yes most defiantly.
Exactly if it was for the patio stuffpack we wouldn't have hottubs.
You obviously did not get what I said - and I am not going to sit here and keep explaining it. You can believe what you want to believe - but My first Pet was made entirely by a different team of people - using match-able content - whether or not you believe it.
I just know one thing - without sps - none of the content we got in the sps made by the SP team would NOT be in this game if they did not exist. I, for one am very happy with the sps and their content. That's all I have to say about this -
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The idea some people have... that if they were to stop making stuffpacks, they would incorporate what should have been stuff pack content into other packs for no extra charge is silly. You're going to be paying for the content one way or another, most likely by means of price increases.
Personally I like small, focused packs. It gives me more flexibility with my money. I don't play with toddlers at all, so I didn't have to spend 10 bucks on the toddler stuff pack... whereas if they bundled that pack with Parenthood and increased the price, I'd have to pay for a lot of things I don't want just to get some things that I do. On top of that, I would almost guarantee that the people designing stuffpack objects are not the same people coding core gameplay features, and both groups of people probably have different skillsets. So liquidating one team to add it to another would likely not result in more gameplay than what you currently get.
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