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Tiskly
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Hi guys, sorry if this is another rehash or twin of another post. I looked through a few pages but I wanted to post my own, just to better explain my issue better with my PC and The Sims 4. I feel like this game runs well with the right settings, for your pc, on medium to low end PCs. That's great! But I recently got a brand new PC with high end specs, and this game just hates it.
My last PC had the following specs;
Intel i7 4790 3.60Ghz
Nvidia GTX 750ti
8GB Ram
A decent PC, at least for The Sims 4. I'd play uncapped FPS, to see how high it could go, I was reaching 200 FPS if uncapped with this setup, on maximum settings. It ran like a dream, and I'm talking with a mods folder of 3,000+ items.
Cut to today, my specs are;
Intel i7 7700 4.20 Ghz
Nvidia GTX 1070
16 GB Ram
An improvement on the previous on every aspect. When the camera moves, the fps will never, and I mean never stay 60. It's capped at 60+70 due to my monitor hard capping it like this, regardless of if I cap it in game, or use V-sync. The game can't stick 60. It will fly down to mid 50s and 40s. You name it, I've done it:
No CC or mods
Clean Save
Repair Game
Clear Cache
Factory Reset Desktop
Put in more spacious D drive instead of C: Drive
Update GPU Drivers
Update Windows
All combined.
This game hates it. The frame rate will drop even if I turn the graphic settings to lowest. I thought this game was more CPU heavy rather than GPU heavy, if you can call it heavy, adding to my confusion, although maybe I'm wrong.
For comparison on other, much more demanding games, my PC runs The Witcher 3 on Max without Nvidia Hairworks at solid 60, just because it's capped. All other AAA titles I can play on max, with maybe a drop to 50 if the game is stunning, GPU heavy and in a crowded area (forests.) I'm talking games that are extremely GPU and CPU heavy, much more so than The Sims 4.
Am I doing something wrong, has anyone else with a good PC had FPS issues with this game?
My last PC had the following specs;
Intel i7 4790 3.60Ghz
Nvidia GTX 750ti
8GB Ram
A decent PC, at least for The Sims 4. I'd play uncapped FPS, to see how high it could go, I was reaching 200 FPS if uncapped with this setup, on maximum settings. It ran like a dream, and I'm talking with a mods folder of 3,000+ items.
Cut to today, my specs are;
Intel i7 7700 4.20 Ghz
Nvidia GTX 1070
16 GB Ram
An improvement on the previous on every aspect. When the camera moves, the fps will never, and I mean never stay 60. It's capped at 60+70 due to my monitor hard capping it like this, regardless of if I cap it in game, or use V-sync. The game can't stick 60. It will fly down to mid 50s and 40s. You name it, I've done it:
No CC or mods
Clean Save
Repair Game
Clear Cache
Factory Reset Desktop
Put in more spacious D drive instead of C: Drive
Update GPU Drivers
Update Windows
All combined.
This game hates it. The frame rate will drop even if I turn the graphic settings to lowest. I thought this game was more CPU heavy rather than GPU heavy, if you can call it heavy, adding to my confusion, although maybe I'm wrong.
For comparison on other, much more demanding games, my PC runs The Witcher 3 on Max without Nvidia Hairworks at solid 60, just because it's capped. All other AAA titles I can play on max, with maybe a drop to 50 if the game is stunning, GPU heavy and in a crowded area (forests.) I'm talking games that are extremely GPU and CPU heavy, much more so than The Sims 4.
Am I doing something wrong, has anyone else with a good PC had FPS issues with this game?
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You have an nice system and I would say it possibly the game and not your system, just make sure all drivers are up to date. Sims 4 may not be optimized and even with my specs I get some lag when zooming in and out and some in game but not so bad I use an 6700K and an 1070 8 GB 16 GB.
I hope it improves as well and the state this game is in I barely play it anymore and just play other games.
I do hope for better optimization too, but I’m glad the game still feels very smooth overall.
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This problem has been brought to their attention many times and not even 64bit was able to help. Fps and stutter was also a issue for many many people playing ts3 but again nothing was changed in ts4, the more that gets added the worse it gets. I think it has something to do with how the game utilizes the cpu because for a lot people this game maxes out their cpu or games close to maxing it out, this issue was brought to their attention also.
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LG 34" ultra wide
If the next game is built on dx12 or even 11 the chance of a better product is greater.
As for the sims 4, I only use/play build mode because there the fps is stable.
That's true Dx9 is very old by today's standards.
I actually stopped playing ts3 for the stutter fps drops and i also stopped playing ts4 for the same reason.. that and now i find it boring LOL
Even the added loading screens were not enough to help the performance issues, which some blamed on the open world in ts3.
16GB hyper X fury
MSI GTX 1080
MSI gaming M5 mobo
Evga 750 supernova
Corsair hydro h110i GT
Corsair obsidian 750D
500GB SSD
6TB Seagate Barracuda Pro
LG 34" ultra wide
It is sad that they blame the open world for the performance problems of the sims 3 when it has always been a problem of draw calls and an outdated API. The reason why the fps drops in 4 when zoomed out is because ALL the furniture and 3d objects are loaded at all times in the neighbor lots, draw call limit due to API and so on.... remove the furniture from all neighbors and the fps drops almost dissapears. Remove all neighbor houses and build a HUGE palace and you would not have fps problems either. This game would perform ALOT better if it was a single lot and the rest just set dressing just because it was built on dx9.
I agree especially if it is geared to play on one tier which is low end to some mid end systems. Imho Sims 4 is not more advanced than Sims 3 however, if they were to tweak Sims 4 with all the features from Sims 3 and also new features than I would reconsider.
As long as it runs better than it did on my 2011 iMac I’ll be happy but I know if I experience FPS drops on i7 8700k (6 core) with GTX 1080i (11gb) then I might throw a slight tantrum!
If you play other games besides the SIms Series you did not waste your money. Sims 4 is what it is and will be that way until the last pack. Sims 4 is gimped for various reasons. I never buy or put together an system just for one game and I future proof my systems as well. Enjoy your system and look elsewhere to exploit that system for Sims 4 will not.
I got this system for more than just TS4
I've chosen 60FPS as I haven't got the faintest idea if going higher would be any advantage or not.
The game runs beautifully though --at the moment.
I agree with you for while Sims4 is nice it is not mind blowing.
Your fps should be the same as your screens refresh rate, If that's 120Hz then your fps should be 120FPS (although you may not actually get that.) If it's 60Hz then your fps should be 60FPS. I recommend 60Hz for this game as it has troubles keeping a steady fps. Generally if you play racing sims or shooters then that's when the 120Hz might be better then 60.. depending on your system.
16GB hyper X fury
MSI GTX 1080
MSI gaming M5 mobo
Evga 750 supernova
Corsair hydro h110i GT
Corsair obsidian 750D
500GB SSD
6TB Seagate Barracuda Pro
LG 34" ultra wide
I totally get you, it is such a shame they seem to think their fanbase is nothing but a bunch of stupid people who don't know how a game is supposed to work and that we accept anything.
I have increased the resolution to 4k and fiddled with the graphicsrules file to increase the graphics beyond ultra to even out the inconsistent frame rate and so far it feels smoother, lower but smoother.
I think that is the best I am gonna get out of this game. Before it was 35-60 with vsync, now it's 35-40 with vsync and this feels a lot smoother and easier on the eyes.
Sometimes I wonder where they found their programmers and coders, in the bottom of a trashcan i assume.