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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    Wow. Thanks @Bonxie! You're the best!
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  • friendsfan367friendsfan367 Posts: 28,770 Member
    Wow. Thanks @Bonxie! You're the best!

    don't forget deadpool its probably a lot of work putting mods back together. :)
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    Wow. Thanks @Bonxie! You're the best!

    don't forget deadpool its probably a lot of work putting mods back together. :)

    I am on his Discord. I was thanking @Bonxie for keeping us abreast of the situation. :)
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  • friendsfan367friendsfan367 Posts: 28,770 Member
    edited November 2021
    Wow. Thanks @Bonxie! You're the best!

    don't forget deadpool its probably a lot of work putting mods back together. :)

    I am on his Discord. I was thanking @Bonxie for keeping us abreast of the situation. :)

    oh i worked yesterday so i come back confused. yeah i agree. now that i work later nox is my go to for when things here get updated. :)
  • BonxieBonxie Posts: 5,379 Member
    Regarding yesterday's Sims 4 patch (PC: 1.82.99.1030 / Mac: 1.82.99.1230)
    there seems to be no issues with the current MCCC Version 2021.3.2


    Other than expected there have been no errors reported so far after that EA update.
    Everything seems to work as expected.

    Find the download link on this page:
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/releases

    Alternative DL site, just in case you're facing issues.
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/mc-command-2021-57466763 - FREE DOWNLOAD!

    If you are a Legacy user, stay on MCCC version 6.6.0.
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/releases
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/mc-command-6-6-0-31490960 - FREE DOWNLOAD!

    You might also have a look at @luthienrising's post regarding broken mods and CC:
    https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/995765/broken-updated-mods-cc-nov-30-2021-neighborhood-stories-patch/p1

    If you have any questions please ask,
    or visit our Discord: https://discord.gg/mccc

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    #MCCC #Patch #Update
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    Well, I haven't patched yet, but so far, I'm having a grand day. Many of the mods I use have been deemed compatible. I will have to go back to using the vault to keep his money separate from the main household, however, as SimRealist is removing their mods until further notice. But all I need to do is go in and find out how much money my Teen Global Superstar has amassed. :) Looks like I will be patching a bit later today. Thank you @Bonxie, as always you do a fantastic job in keeping us all informed.
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    edited December 2021
    Hi, this is a tad embarrassing, but once again I'm unable to get my Teens engaged. I thought I had taken all the correct steps to allow for this. Half of me wants this couple to be 'secretly wed' by the time they enter Uni. Hes a Global Superstar, so keeping his married status secret may be beneficial. But for some odd reason all that comes up is Exchange Promise ring (or however it's worded). So, they are promised at the moment. I just wanted him to have the pleasure of popping the question, this go-around. I have no clue which setting I must have missed. Will someone be so kind as to give me the pathway so I can double-check my settings? Please, and thank you, in advance.

    ETA: Never Mind, I figured out I left out a very important module. My bad. All is well and the couple are now happily, secretly, engaged. :)
    Post edited by GalacticGal on
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  • BonxieBonxie Posts: 5,379 Member
    MCCC v2021.4 for Sims 4 game version 1.82.99 is out now!

    Find the download link on this page:
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/releases

    Alternative DL site, just in case you're facing issues.
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/mc-command-2021-59549825 - FREE DOWNLOAD!

    Find the complete change log here:
    https://deaderpoolmc.tumblr.com/private/667222161342218240/tumblr_fu9GjFkqkb9GBP8c9

    An installation guide can be found here:
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/help/installation

    If you're experiencing problems with the installation, look into the troubleshooting guide:
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/help/troubleshooting

    Find the FAQ and the answers to fix your MCCC related issues here:
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/help/faq

    This release has been tested to be working with (but does not require) GTW, OR, Get Together, Dine Out, City Life, Vampires, Parenthood, Cats & Dogs, Jungle Adventures, Seasons, Get Famous, Strangeville, Island Living, Realm of Magic, Discover University, Eco Living, Journey to Batuu, Snowy Escape, Cottage Living and the patch released November 30, 2021 - PC: 1.82.99.1030 / Mac: 1.82.99.1230.

    Versions before this most likely won't work, so don’t be surprised if that’s the case!

    The mod folder will look more or less like this after MCCC 2021.4 installation/update:
    y4m1iRdjuHt9PXEO5MekU5J4e98onG6igtboF395tdAgfjUJ4_ZB7qeaBUf-pmAoErkkjAiO5AQxIrS-RvtZstmXV01p8ktIgmazYFf2bJCNvOdxQSQBL6EbXugcpd5wQsgiZZWnSJZgibiWx09aQ9nls8XBSRb_ZA4GuXYoN1IDL2G0TD6NHLozOPxCpVVrxvL?width=668&height=514&cropmode=none

    As proof of installation the welcome screen of MCCC 2021.4 looks like this:
    y4mvclMMfaF3FVeQk7kabDiaa9AZXNEpoM5C7cRlBX3kKpP-7rxjRX23TO2DeFgeyjwUiiNONU3XjfWuckIoVMU2eXU2fWx4VprCEPtlq-vCih0hDpM986laRUd2H4Gu4x9HMQOm3IdBcegjDzi7ITrZtjshqqZJt-vI8p1J0fVlj-GK6Eh9yPgvV7NTdBa96Rw?width=273&height=297&cropmode=none

    Check the CC and Mods in your game and use current versions only. Be careful when using outdated or orphaned DLC. If you get an orange error message referring to a Last Exception, the reason is most likely broken 3rd party stuff.

    Legacy players (32-bit) should keep MCCC version 6.6.0:
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/releases

    Alternative MCCC 6.6.0 download site, just in case you're facing issues.
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/mc-command-6-6-0-31490960 - FREE DOWNLOAD!

    If you have any questions please ask,
    or visit our Discord: https://discord.gg/mccc

    ☆☆☆ Have Fun! ☆☆☆

    #MCCC #Patch #Update
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  • BonxieBonxie Posts: 5,379 Member
    Known Issues in MCCC 2021.4

    We got reports of some issues when MCCC 2021.4 is used in the game.

    Those bugs listed below are fixed in the upcoming update MCCC 2021.4.1:
    • Death by Killer Rabbits had an ID change by EA but it didn't get set in the UI so trying to remove the interaction if they didn't have Cottage Living failed.
    • Fixed an error that could happen when using MC Cheats to set moods on a Sim.
    • Fixed an error from logging outfit details on a Sim.
    • Fixed a bug with negative skill difficulty adjustments not working right.
    • Fixed an error that would happen when trying to add an accessory to MC Dresser's blacklist/whitelist.
    • Fixed an error that would happen when trying to change the setting value for allowing children to take care of babies. The setting in mc_settings.cfg would get written incorrectly and an error would be logged to mc_cmd_center.log as a result about "Unknown setting type specified: bool".

    Thank you very much for your patientence!
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  • BonxieBonxie Posts: 5,379 Member
    MCCC v2021.4.1 hotfix for Sims 4 game version 1.82.99 is out now!

    Please re-download the newest public release for MCCC/MC Woohoo!
    deaderpool wrote:
    The hotfix 2021.4.1 is to fix the following errors. It isn’t required to do this update, but if you’re getting these errors, you should. These are all of the issues that have been reported on Discord to me with steps to reproduce and error logs so I could fix them. That’s going to have to do it for now, because I AM supposed to be on vacation at this point :)
    • Death by Killer Rabbits had an ID change by EA but it didn't get set in the UI so trying to remove the interaction if they didn't have Cottage Living failed.
    • Fixed an error that could happen when using MC Cheats to set moods on a Sim.
    • Fixed an error from logging outfit details on a Sim.
    • Fixed a bug with negative skill difficulty adjustments not working right.
    • Fixed an error that would happen when trying to add an accessory to MC Dresser's blacklist/whitelist.
    • Fixed an error that would happen when trying to change the setting value for allowing children to take care of babies. The setting in mc_settings.cfg would get written incorrectly and an error would be logged to mc_cmd_center.log as a result about "Unknown setting type specified: bool".
    • Fixed a problem where MC Dresser would sometimes be triggered on age-up when it should not have been

    Find the download link on this page:
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/releases

    Alternative DL site, just in case you're facing issues.
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/mc-command-2021-59549825 - FREE DOWNLOAD!

    If you are a Legacy user, stay on MCCC version 6.6.0.
    https://deaderpool-mccc.com/#/releases
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/mc-command-6-6-0-31490960 - FREE DOWNLOAD!

    If you have any questions please ask,
    or visit our Discord: https://discord.gg/mccc

    ☆☆☆ Have Fun! ☆☆☆

    #MCCC #Patch #Update
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. Seems my triplets are no longer triplets. Two are set to have their birthday on a Monday, while the third is set to have hers on the following Friday. She has six days left, wherein the other two have two days left. I can't find the command with the latest version that will allow me to set how many days into the age level they are to fix this. Please help! The youngest one is the only one currently married and they are all set to go off to Uni after Wednesday of this coming Sims' week. It's early Saturday in my game. I'm having a bit of a panic attack. Can't even find the age up command at the moment. Please, and thank you, in advance.
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  • VeeDubVeeDub Posts: 1,218 Member
    edited December 2021
    Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. Seems my triplets are no longer triplets. Two are set to have their birthday on a Monday, while the third is set to have hers on the following Friday. She has six days left, wherein the other two have two days left. I can't find the command with the latest version that will allow me to set how many days into the age level they are to fix this. Please help! The youngest one is the only one currently married and they are all set to go off to Uni after Wednesday of this coming Sims' week. It's early Saturday in my game. I'm having a bit of a panic attack. Can't even find the age up command at the moment. Please, and thank you, in advance.

    Normally you should see all of the age options in the same section. But it sounds like the one lagging behind her siblings may be pregnant (you won't even see the age up command for pregnant sims). If so, you'll need to either wait until her baby is born or age-down her siblings to match her current age. If she isn't pregnant, then I have no more ideas at the moment.
  • MaggieMarleyMaggieMarley Posts: 5,029 Member
    Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. Seems my triplets are no longer triplets. Two are set to have their birthday on a Monday, while the third is set to have hers on the following Friday. She has six days left, wherein the other two have two days left. I can't find the command with the latest version that will allow me to set how many days into the age level they are to fix this. Please help! The youngest one is the only one currently married and they are all set to go off to Uni after Wednesday of this coming Sims' week. It's early Saturday in my game. I'm having a bit of a panic attack. Can't even find the age up command at the moment. Please, and thank you, in advance.

    @GalacticGal this isn't what you want, but could you perhaps freeze the age of the 2 aging up on the Monday until Friday? Or just have the one aging up on Friday blow out the candles on a birthday cake on the Monday too?
  • BonxieBonxie Posts: 5,379 Member
    edited December 2021
    Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. Seems my triplets are no longer triplets. Two are set to have their birthday on a Monday, while the third is set to have hers on the following Friday. She has six days left, wherein the other two have two days left. I can't find the command with the latest version that will allow me to set how many days into the age level they are to fix this. Please help! The youngest one is the only one currently married and they are all set to go off to Uni after Wednesday of this coming Sims' week. It's early Saturday in my game. I'm having a bit of a panic attack. Can't even find the age up command at the moment. Please, and thank you, in advance.

    As far as I know, there is no option to manually adjust a sim's age by days. For the present situation you might try the option suggested by @MaggieMarley.

    For future offspring you should check whether the following setting is disabled in your game:
    Computer:MCCC > MCCC Settings > Gameplay Settings > Use Random Aging
    This setting determines whether EA's random aging that was implemented with Get Famous will be used. If disabled, then the prior Sims 4 functionality will be used so new Sims are always zero days into their current age span rather than a random number of days.
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  • VeeDubVeeDub Posts: 1,218 Member
    Bonxie wrote: »
    Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. Seems my triplets are no longer triplets. Two are set to have their birthday on a Monday, while the third is set to have hers on the following Friday. She has six days left, wherein the other two have two days left. I can't find the command with the latest version that will allow me to set how many days into the age level they are to fix this. Please help! The youngest one is the only one currently married and they are all set to go off to Uni after Wednesday of this coming Sims' week. It's early Saturday in my game. I'm having a bit of a panic attack. Can't even find the age up command at the moment. Please, and thank you, in advance.

    As far as I know, there is no option to manually adjust a sim's age by days.

    I haven't yet updated MCCC (because I haven't updated the game yet), but are you saying that the latest version no longer has the option to click on a sim and select Sim Commands -> Set Age -> Set Days in Age Span?

  • simgirl542simgirl542 Posts: 994 Member
    I've run into having multiples aging up on different days. I also run into sims who don't age up until 1-2 days after their birthday image on the calendar.
    Though, I do admit, I play a lot of households at once and I often forget who is a multiple and who is not.
    I just use the UI extension cheat and add days to the sibling that I feel is lagging behind.
    If I don't want to use that, then I just go in and age them up via MC Command Center and choose the age by life stage via the cheats menu or I'll go into CAS and age them up that way.
    I do admit, I haven't played in a few days so I don't know if anything was changed in this current update.
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  • BonxieBonxie Posts: 5,379 Member
    edited December 2021
    VeeDub wrote: »
    Bonxie wrote: »
    Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. Seems my triplets are no longer triplets. Two are set to have their birthday on a Monday, while the third is set to have hers on the following Friday. She has six days left, wherein the other two have two days left. I can't find the command with the latest version that will allow me to set how many days into the age level they are to fix this. Please help! The youngest one is the only one currently married and they are all set to go off to Uni after Wednesday of this coming Sims' week. It's early Saturday in my game. I'm having a bit of a panic attack. Can't even find the age up command at the moment. Please, and thank you, in advance.

    As far as I know, there is no option to manually adjust a sim's age by days.

    I haven't yet updated MCCC (because I haven't updated the game yet), but are you saying that the latest version no longer has the option to click on a sim and select Sim Commands -> Set Age -> Set Days in Age Span?

    That command is still in place, but I don't think that this is what the OP wants to achive.

    Deaderpool's comment regarding that command:
    Deaderpool wrote:
    This setting will allow a player to set the specific number of days through the current age span that the Sim has progressed. Note that this only changes the days progressed through age group, it does not change total days lived. Some people may not like that it works that way, but Sims 4 keeps track of these two separately. They are not connected other than both showing-up on the same UI screen on the HUD.

    But I never used this command, so maybe I misunderstood the function.
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  • VeeDubVeeDub Posts: 1,218 Member
    Bonxie wrote: »
    VeeDub wrote: »
    Bonxie wrote: »
    Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. Seems my triplets are no longer triplets. Two are set to have their birthday on a Monday, while the third is set to have hers on the following Friday. She has six days left, wherein the other two have two days left. I can't find the command with the latest version that will allow me to set how many days into the age level they are to fix this. Please help! The youngest one is the only one currently married and they are all set to go off to Uni after Wednesday of this coming Sims' week. It's early Saturday in my game. I'm having a bit of a panic attack. Can't even find the age up command at the moment. Please, and thank you, in advance.

    As far as I know, there is no option to manually adjust a sim's age by days.

    I haven't yet updated MCCC (because I haven't updated the game yet), but are you saying that the latest version no longer has the option to click on a sim and select Sim Commands -> Set Age -> Set Days in Age Span?

    That option is still in place, but I don't think that this is what the OP wants to achive.

    This setting will allow a player to set the specific number of days through the current age span that the Sim has progressed. Note that this only changes the days progressed through age group, it does not change total days lived. Some people may not like that it works that way, but Sims 4 keeps track of these two separately. They are not connected other than both showing-up on the same UI screen on the HUD.

    But I never used this option, so maybe I misunderstood the function.

    Oh good, thanks for confirming because you had me worried for a minute there. :smiley: I use that feature often (aging sims up or down by days), so I'm very glad it's still in there! Maybe I misunderstood the original question, as the Set Days in Age Span option would let a sim lagging behind their expected age to "catch up" with the number of days that they were expected to have. But of course the option won't show if the sim happens to be pregnant, which is why I suggested either waiting for the birth (if she's pregnant) or editing the ages on the siblings to match the one lagging behind.
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    edited December 2021
    Oh, @VeeDub that has to be it. She just got married and the two just got together. Bingo. I put a pause on it, because they are supposed to head of to Uni in the next Sim week after all seven have aged up. I may have to do the unthinkable and end the pregnancy, the story being she had a terrible miscarriage. I do wonder if that's why the option to change how many days she's in her age level is missing? I know I have used this function to set birth order. I created the Cantrell family all at once in CAS. Didn't take the time to have them born in game, as that save is where my corruption occurred. I had Erik sing his little heart out as a Child Sim, once he aged up from Toddler. Then we got GF and I learned about RTF, thought I was set, but the game save got corrupted and when I tried to have Erik sing, via RTF, it turned out that Sim, himself was corrupted. That was my first time to Restart the family. I may even have started with Erik, the one I created for the Pinstar Legacy Challenge, and build his family, again, from there. But I am a staunch believer, we should be able to assign skill levels in CAS. It's very hard to imagine a set of parents with four Teens and a Child Sim who get placed into the game without any skills whatsoever. So I cheated them skills once I had them in the game. Then I used the number of days in to at least assign birth order for the four Teens and the parents, too.

    I suppose it's too late to go back and select aging on during pregnancy? She can't go to Uni as a Teen, that I know of. I feel like tearing my hair out right now. But, I do thank you for making me realize the problem. LOL It totally escaped me yesterday. Thank you!
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  • VeeDubVeeDub Posts: 1,218 Member
    @GalacticGal Yep, the pregnancy would be the reason she got behind in her aging process. I'm not sure if it's too late to turn on aging during pregnancy, but I can't think of a reason not to try it. :) I personally keep aging on for all my sims (including pregnant ones) but I've had mixed success with trying to adjust ages during pregnancies. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't show up at all. I don't tend to get many pregnant sims to deal with in my game, though, so it's not much of a big deal for me to just wait until they give birth. Then again, I don't tend to have multiples when my sims do have babies, either. :lol:
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    edited December 2021
    Yes, @Bonxie, I do want to set their number of days in the age level. I created them as identical triplets and now, Kayleigh is four days younger than the other two. I hate to end the pregnancy, because I'm uncertain she has the ability to get pregnant in Uni. But I also don't want to have to wait another full week before the kids head off there. The triplets are a day older than the youngest Teen in my Cantrell family. This will throw the whole scheme off. I'm vexed and unhappy that the only option they had when the newlyweds snuck off to have a 'wedding' night was try for baby. Face/palm. What kind of a sick, cruel joke was that? :open_mouth: But the notion of a miscarriage might make for some good storytelling, and if she can't conceive again right away, that too, could lend itself to some angst. My bad. Next time (should I have to restart again) I'll know better.

    Thank you for all of the help, All of you! :)
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    @VeeDub Thank you, I will give it a go, and if all else fails I will rollback a save to avoid the problem in the first place. I always do a Save As, for each gaming session, since things sometimes go awry, such as in this moment. She didn't get preggars until early Monday morning, so she shouldn't have fallen so far behind, I wouldn't think and I don't like random aging at all. I never set my game for that. Never. So much for the couple having to juggle classes and a baby, besides Erik's hectic career schedule. I'll try to fix this and like I said, if I have to go back a save or two to avoid this problem, I'll do that. Thanks for the advice!
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  • VeeDubVeeDub Posts: 1,218 Member
    @VeeDub Thank you, I will give it a go, and if all else fails I will rollback a save to avoid the problem in the first place. I always do a Save As, for each gaming session, since things sometimes go awry, such as in this moment. She didn't get preggars until early Monday morning, so she shouldn't have fallen so far behind, I wouldn't think and I don't like random aging at all. I never set my game for that. Never. So much for the couple having to juggle classes and a baby, besides Erik's hectic career schedule. I'll try to fix this and like I said, if I have to go back a save or two to avoid this problem, I'll do that. Thanks for the advice!

    You're welcome. Best of luck with it! :)
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 19,816 Member
    edited December 2021
    Thank you!
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  • gbaisdengbaisden Posts: 32 Member
    I use MC Command Center and I have it set to move Y/A out but they're not moving out. They're staying in the same house, getting married and having their own kids. Sometimes there's 8 sims living in the house and I have to go through each house and move them out. Is there's another setting that I'm missing somewhere?
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