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Is The Sims 3 on Mac useless compared to Windows?

The Sims 3 is supported on both Windows and OS X/macOS but the latter is shown as inferior to the former since the game uses Cider, has a 2 GB RAM limit, and won't work on newer Macs. EA hasn't bother updating The Sims 3 so the issues the game has have never been fixed. Mac users got hit hard with this even more than Windows users as the newer Macs won't play The Sims 3 period. This isn't the result of the OS but rather the graphics card. Since the 2013 Retina MacBook Pro, Apple included Intel Iris Graphics and Intel Iris Pro Graphics but the problem is The Sims 3 and The Sims Medieval have never been updated to support it and uniquely to OS X/macOS, the game tends to crash when using newer graphics. As a result, post Late 2013 MacBook Pros have been unable to run The Sims 3 while pre-2013 MacBook Pros are able to run the game. The iMac also suffers from this problem, pre-2015 iMacs (except for the 2.7 GHz model with Iris Pro) will run The Sims 3 but post-2015 models won't work with The Sims 3. Especially frustrating seeing as a majority of Mac Simmers play on the MacBook Pro, particularly the 13-inch model, and The Sims 3 Mac Discussions was often flooded by threads saying "Help! My Mac won't run The Sims 3!" or "I have a 13" MacBook Pro and The Sims 3 doesn't work. Help me!". Also other problems are that The Sims 3 was broken with the release of Mac OS X Lion, and there's also a similar problem reported by @BluebellFlora that El Capitan and Sierra won't work with Late Night and/or Ambitions.

I'm surprised that TV Tropes hasn't listed this in Porting Disaster or any of The Sims' YMMV pages seeing the Mac version is loaded with problems. Both Windows and macOS also have issues such as long loading times especially since most Simmers have 1.67 and nearly all EPs/SPs making this obvious when compared to The Sims Medieval. Even worse, some features are useless without a fix; some towns such as Shang Simla (China), Bridgeport, and Isla Paradiso are impossible to play due to lag, sprinklers won't water plants on Planter Bowls and Soil Rugs, and Into the Future breaking Skill Opportunities with the Advanced Technology Skill.

The Sims 4 is probably the only useful The Sims game on Mac since The Sims 4 doesn't have the problems that The Sims 3 has. It doesn't help (for Windows users) that The Sims 3 is the only oldest game available since The Sims 2 is no longer sold digitally (outside of contacting EA for The Sims 2 UC). As time progresses, The Sims 3 will be impossible to play on newer Macs without using Boot Camp to install Windows, owning an older Mac (2012 MacBook Pro), or owning a Windows PC.

I doubt if EA even bothers caring about The Sims 3 so I'm guessing The Sims 3's issues, especially the Mac crash issue, will never be fixed. The Sims 3 may be crippled but with bug/world fixes, the game does get better. I know not everyone is able to play the game on Windows so is The Sims 3 still worth playing if you only have a Mac running OS X/macOS?
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  • Tremayne4260Tremayne4260 Posts: 3,126 Member
    Actually, Sims Medieval was updated and fixed just recently. It now runs on newer Macs just fine.
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  • RuediiRuedii Posts: 168 Member
    I wish they would update the porting stack.

    I hear they are still using cider I mean seriously?

    You'd probably do better running the Windows version under Wine.

    The Windows version runs great on Linux under Wine BTW, even under 64bit mode but I don't have any recent test results for Mac, and mac has been more troublesome with 64bit wine. I regularly play under Linux using Crossover Wine. You do need to install Microsoft .Net runtime for store functions and the launcher.

    If they want to do a serious real port, they should build at least a winelib recompile if not a full native lib one with just a Direct3D to OpenGL stack. It would be nice to go full OpenGL but that is far more work.
  • Tremayne4260Tremayne4260 Posts: 3,126 Member
    It would be nice, but seeing as they never did port all of Sims 2 to the Mac, a full redo of Sims 3 is unlikely also.
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  • Mergeek92Mergeek92 Posts: 2 New Member
    I recently downloaded my Sims 3 and my expansion packs on my new Macbook pro from late 2011. I previously used windows to play. It appears to download problem free, but when I try to open it to play I get an error telling me it can't open. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing changed. Any tips or pointers? I an new to the Mac world. My mac runs on the latest Sierra. Please help if you can. I would love to play my Sims 3 again....
  • phoebebebe13phoebebebe13 Posts: 19,400 Member
    Mergeek92 wrote: »
    I recently downloaded my Sims 3 and my expansion packs on my new Macbook pro from late 2011. I previously used windows to play. It appears to download problem free, but when I try to open it to play I get an error telling me it can't open. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing changed. Any tips or pointers? I an new to the Mac world. My mac runs on the latest Sierra. Please help if you can. I would love to play my Sims 3 again....

    @igazor Mac help Thanks
  • igazorigazor Posts: 19,330 Member
    edited August 2017
    Mergeek92 wrote: »
    I recently downloaded my Sims 3 and my expansion packs on my new Macbook pro from late 2011. I previously used windows to play. It appears to download problem free, but when I try to open it to play I get an error telling me it can't open. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing changed. Any tips or pointers? I an new to the Mac world. My mac runs on the latest Sierra. Please help if you can. I would love to play my Sims 3 again....

    @igazor Mac help Thanks
    Two or three of the EPs will cause the game to fail on OS X Sierra or El Capitan unless some extra steps are taken. Bluebellflora already answered this one over here. :)
    http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/15962821/#Comment_15962821
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  • Derek3040Derek3040 Posts: 1 New Member
    any review about high sierra?
  • phoebebebe13phoebebebe13 Posts: 19,400 Member
    Derek3040 wrote: »
    any review about high sierra?
    igazor wrote: »
    Mergeek92 wrote: »
    I recently downloaded my Sims 3 and my expansion packs on my new Macbook pro from late 2011. I previously used windows to play. It appears to download problem free, but when I try to open it to play I get an error telling me it can't open. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing changed. Any tips or pointers? I an new to the Mac world. My mac runs on the latest Sierra. Please help if you can. I would love to play my Sims 3 again....

    @igazor Mac help Thanks
    Two or three of the EPs will cause the game to fail on OS X Sierra or El Capitan unless some extra steps are taken. Bluebellflora already answered this one over here. :)
    http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/15962821/#Comment_15962821

    @Derek3040 check with the link igazor provided
  • YvinatorEliteYvinatorElite Posts: 97 Member
    I installed the game + supernatural & Island paradise on macbook pro 2015 with sierra and after a few start up crashes with loading the game it worked smoothly on all the highest settings.
  • igazorigazor Posts: 19,330 Member
    edited October 2017
    Derek3040 wrote: »
    any review about high sierra?
    I've seen a small number of users reporting in that there isn't any difference for them in the game's performance on High Sierra vs. Sierra. Same issues on getting things installed, same regular issues that always plague TS3 for Mac players, but no new problems either. My take is that High Sierra is a maintenance release OS, for the most part it doesn't radically change things in ways that would be entirely obvious to the user other than the Apple based programs it updates.

    Not Sims related since I play TS3 on Windows, but I jumped from El Capitan to High Sierra myself and can't really say that my life has changed substantially due to the upgrade. ;)
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  • Tremayne4260Tremayne4260 Posts: 3,126 Member
    Same here. No issues other than the normal ones. Works fine for me.
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