Might I point out the Grimm can be found w/o death anyone in the Sims world?
Where do you find him? I turn aging off in my game so I haven't seen Grimmy for a long time.
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I imaging that once the game creates Grim Reaper and your sims interact with him, become friends with him, the game places him in the "Not In World" section. I'm not sure if he shows up before the very first death in your game.
@CorkysPetals
She doesn't need to show up to be used for abductions, but her genetic is used in the process. The game uses her even if it doesn't show her to you. To make a baby with the genetic of two parents, the game creates a PT (or get the existing one) and uses it in the process.
The hidden trait is there so the game can recognize which one of the Sims in your save is the PT.
@CorkysPetals She's forbidden from showing up, even more then the Grim Reaper. Both are normally forbidden from showing up in everyday context. But it's less strict for the Grim Reaper. On the contrary, I haven't seen a single file where pollination technicians are allowed to show up somewhere.
Concerning the Grim Reaper showing up more once your sims have met him, as some people's screenshots show him everywhere and sometimes with NPC roles, it's usually a glitch because he's normally forbidden from having these roles.
@LeGardePourpre - I have a problem with a female that has once been a Gardener created by game. Since I altered her garden skilIs she doesn't show up as Gardener anymore. I made her playable to cheat her skills and then made her not in world and unplayed again, but no luck. Could it be that she lost her hidden Gardener trait?
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@LeGardePourpre - I have a problem with a female that has once been a Gardener created by game. Since I altered her garden skilIs she doesn't show up as Gardener anymore. I made her playable to cheat her skills and then made her not in world and unplayed again, but no luck. Could it be that she lost her hidden Gardener trait?
When you control a sim (or her household), the NPC career is removed.
- You must control another household
- Invite her on the lot
- Get her Sim ID with this cheat code : sims.get_sim_id_by_name [First name][Last name]
- Set the NPC career and NPC trait with these cheat codes :
Home service :
careers.add_career career_Adult_NPC_Gardener_Service [Sim ID]
traits.equip_trait trait_isGardener_Service [Sim ID]
-- OR --City employee (Park and neighborhood) :
careers.add_career career_Adult_NPC_Gardener [Sim ID]
traits.equip_trait trait_isMasterGardener [Sim ID]
- Remove or lay off or control the current NPC gardener
Note: the game may prefer to hire the most recent sim or to create a new random sim.
@LeGardePourpre - I have a problem with a female that has once been a Gardener created by game. Since I altered her garden skilIs she doesn't show up as Gardener anymore. I made her playable to cheat her skills and then made her not in world and unplayed again, but no luck. Could it be that she lost her hidden Gardener trait?
When you control a sim (or her household), the NPC career is removed.
- You must control another household
- Invite her on the lot
- Get her Sim ID with this cheat code : sims.get_sim_id_by_name [First name][Last name]
- Set the NPC career and NPC trait with these cheat codes :
Home service :
careers.add_career career_Adult_NPC_Gardener_Service [Sim ID]
traits.equip_trait trait_isGardener_Service [Sim ID]
-- OR --City employee (Park and neighborhood) :
careers.add_career career_Adult_NPC_Gardener [Sim ID]
traits.equip_trait trait_isMasterGardener [Sim ID]
- Remove or lay off or control the current NPC gardener
Note: the game may prefer to hire the most recent sim or to create a new random sim.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ! My Male Alien Sim fell in love with his female Gardener and it's sad not to see her arrive on the lot as a Gardener anymore.
Yes I can call her and invite her, but I want her to be a Gardener again. So again, thanks dear for your helpful info.
Next time I will be more careful when customizing an NPC
ETA: It worked like a charm
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> @egwarhammer said: > ... check out this mod, Show Sim Info. > > You can use it to see any traits (and other info, read the description page) on your sims. Skills, traits, job, housemates, age info, etc. VERY handy "details" mod. :)
I'm planning to check out this mod, but I have a really dumb question (yes, there are such things as dumb questions -- just bear with me. I'll get it some day): Other than satisfying curiosity, what is the purpose of seeing info on NPC and other sims?
Well, satisfying curiosity is the main reason. To find out what behaviors are "genetic". Some people are interested in the both the game and WHY the game does things a certain way.
Also, it helps us figure out how to do cheats like make an npc gardener become a gardener again.
@CorkysPetals Thanks for the explanation. I'll just use it for curiosity since I play for "mind candy" and don't really need to understand game mechanics to do that.
Well, satisfying curiosity is the main reason. To find out what behaviors are "genetic". Some people are interested in the both the game and WHY the game does things a certain way.
Also, it helps us figure out how to do cheats like make an npc gardener become a gardener again.
Yes thanks to @LeGardePourpre I managed to get my loving gardener back, and I'm very happy that you guys are digging into the trait cheat codes like this and sharing your knowledge with us. The game would be only half of fun without you helpful people.
„ - Criticism may not be agreeable, but it's sometimes necessary - “
I think the visited Sylvan Glade trait it means your sim gets the option of clicking on the tree and traveling directly to Sylvan Glade without having to do the follow the prompt puzzle. The fifty mile high trait may trigger the player achievement (cuz it doesn't do anything else!), the experimental food trait must let them cook the food at home.
The favorite movie trait appears only after they watch a movie and declare their favorite movie type. After that they enjoy that type of movie more than other movies.
And I found a new trait. Is Adoptable. I have no idea what that does.
I thought hidden traits were something a Sims acquired through genetics not achieving a goal. Like in the Sims 3 the "Pyro" Trait that was passed on through genetics and family. That is hidden traitsto me; something you have to find in the game a Sim has and carry it on through generations
> @egwarhammer said:
> ... check out this mod, Show Sim Info.
>
> You can use it to see any traits (and other info, read the description page) on your sims. Skills, traits, job, housemates, age info, etc. VERY handy "details" mod.
I'm planning to check out this mod, but I have a really dumb question (yes, there are such things as dumb questions -- just bear with me. I'll get it some day): Other than satisfying curiosity, what is the purpose of seeing info on NPC and other sims?
The game decide many things without asking, when you want to play a specific story it's useful to know the current settings.
For example :
I want to assign these parameters to Babs L'Amour :
- NPC Landlord
- Left-handed
- Likes fruitcakes
- Favorite movies: Romance
- Political position: Left
In order to avoid conflicts (right-handed + left-handed), it's necessary to remove the current hidden trait before assigning another one.
I thought hidden traits were something a Sims acquired through genetics not achieving a goal. Like in the Sims 3 the "Pyro" Trait that was passed on through genetics and family. That is hidden traitsto me; something you have to find in the game a Sim has and carry it on through generations
Yes, and more. Back in 2009 when Sims3 was first introduced, Pyro was a hidden trait children got from a firefighter parent. But the firefighter parent got the "Immune to Fire" hidden trait from the job, and other careers gave hidden traits at higher levels. NPCs who delivered pizza, were burglars or police officers also had hidden traits that they might pass on to children.
But even back in the Sim3 days simmers were calling any trait not available in CAS to be a hidden trait. Even opportunities that popped up occasionally gave traits that were "hidden".
And it's just easier to call them hidden traits than "traits that you don't see in normal game-play that affect a sims behavior".
I have a question about the careers/traits. Could it be that since the latest patchs that this doesn't work anymore?
I'm asking because when I add the career like I was told
nothing happens. The sim Info still says "has no job" - When I first did this a couple of month ago it worked and the Sim info said "works as a gardener." But not it doesn't work for some reason. Sim is unplayed.
Does anybody have infos if EA did some changing to the trait codes?
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Where do you find him? I turn aging off in my game so I haven't seen Grimmy for a long time.
-edit
I imaging that once the game creates Grim Reaper and your sims interact with him, become friends with him, the game places him in the "Not In World" section. I'm not sure if he shows up before the very first death in your game.
She doesn't need to show up to be used for abductions, but her genetic is used in the process. The game uses her even if it doesn't show her to you. To make a baby with the genetic of two parents, the game creates a PT (or get the existing one) and uses it in the process.
The hidden trait is there so the game can recognize which one of the Sims in your save is the PT.
I suppose she occasionally shows up in game like a celebrity siting.
Concerning the Grim Reaper showing up more once your sims have met him, as some people's screenshots show him everywhere and sometimes with NPC roles, it's usually a glitch because he's normally forbidden from having these roles.
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionThe only way I found is by using cheat code ( sims.summon_sim_to_zone [Sim ID] ) or "Teleport any sim" mod
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionWhen you control a sim (or her household), the NPC career is removed.
- You must control another household
- Invite her on the lot
- Get her Sim ID with this cheat code : sims.get_sim_id_by_name [First name] [Last name]
- Set the NPC career and NPC trait with these cheat codes :
- Home service :
- -- OR -- City employee (Park and neighborhood) :
- Remove or lay off or control the current NPC gardenercareers.add_career career_Adult_NPC_Gardener_Service [Sim ID]
traits.equip_trait trait_isGardener_Service [Sim ID]
careers.add_career career_Adult_NPC_Gardener [Sim ID]
traits.equip_trait trait_isMasterGardener [Sim ID]
Note: the game may prefer to hire the most recent sim or to create a new random sim.
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionTHANK YOU VERY MUCH ! My Male Alien Sim fell in love with his female Gardener and it's sad not to see her arrive on the lot as a Gardener anymore.
Yes I can call her and invite her, but I want her to be a Gardener again. So again, thanks dear for your helpful info.
Next time I will be more careful when customizing an NPC
ETA: It worked like a charm
> ... check out this mod, Show Sim Info.
>
> You can use it to see any traits (and other info, read the description page) on your sims. Skills, traits, job, housemates, age info, etc. VERY handy "details" mod. :)
I'm planning to check out this mod, but I have a really dumb question (yes, there are such things as dumb questions -- just bear with me. I'll get it some day): Other than satisfying curiosity, what is the purpose of seeing info on NPC and other sims?
Also, it helps us figure out how to do cheats like make an npc gardener become a gardener again.
Yes thanks to @LeGardePourpre I managed to get my loving gardener back, and I'm very happy that you guys are digging into the trait cheat codes like this and sharing your knowledge with us. The game would be only half of fun without you helpful people.
I thought hidden traits were something a Sims acquired through genetics not achieving a goal. Like in the Sims 3 the "Pyro" Trait that was passed on through genetics and family. That is hidden traitsto me; something you have to find in the game a Sim has and carry it on through generations
The game decide many things without asking, when you want to play a specific story it's useful to know the current settings.
For example :
I want to assign these parameters to Babs L'Amour :
- NPC Landlord
- Left-handed
- Likes fruitcakes
- Favorite movies: Romance
- Political position: Left
In order to avoid conflicts (right-handed + left-handed), it's necessary to remove the current hidden trait before assigning another one.
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionYes, and more. Back in 2009 when Sims3 was first introduced, Pyro was a hidden trait children got from a firefighter parent. But the firefighter parent got the "Immune to Fire" hidden trait from the job, and other careers gave hidden traits at higher levels. NPCs who delivered pizza, were burglars or police officers also had hidden traits that they might pass on to children.
But even back in the Sim3 days simmers were calling any trait not available in CAS to be a hidden trait. Even opportunities that popped up occasionally gave traits that were "hidden".
And it's just easier to call them hidden traits than "traits that you don't see in normal game-play that affect a sims behavior".
And technically Maxis use the Trait system in order to manage these parameters, they are almost never visible in the User Interface.
It's exactly the same thing when we say "Hidden skill" for the Climbing skill.
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The Sims 4 General Discussion> Don't forget the 'Likes fruitcake' trait
My child sim has that trait. Funny cause the mother doesn't.
I'm asking because when I add the career like I was told
careers.add_career career_Adult_NPC_Gardener [Sim ID]
traits.equip_trait trait_isMasterGardener [Sim ID]
nothing happens. The sim Info still says "has no job" - When I first did this a couple of month ago it worked and the Sim info said "works as a gardener." But not it doesn't work for some reason. Sim is unplayed.
Does anybody have infos if EA did some changing to the trait codes?
I can't tell you because I haven't played to TS4 since October 2017.
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