It gets a bit getting used to the handling but I'm loving recreating my butchered family tree from old saves
It's also very stable. I haven't seen any errors since the one you fixed.
Anyways, few more suggestions:
- Partner Status: Deceased or something. Ex Partner just doesn't sound right for those that lost their partner
- Also, some of my Sims liked to do one night stands and I don't would really would count them as neither partner nor ex-partner but more of a:ups. Also MCCC has done some weird adopting in my game so now I have two Sims that have never been partner adopt a child together (yeah, I know, it's weird). So having some other type of status for those would also be great.
- The Clone one is a tiny bit unclear to me. Who would be the biological parents ? The same as your clone OR the clone itself ?
Well your first question is almost kind of philosphical - Does somebody stop being your sim's spouse because they've passed away? In my eyes, they'd still be a partner. We're thinks ng of potentially including an age drop down that would cover all stages from Child to Deceased in the future.
The one time flings - I'd probably just call them partners. I think if we get too granular with it (one night hookup, a girlfriend of two weeks, they went out for a life stage...) it might get a bit much and hard to navigate all the menus!
The biological parent of the clone would be the clonee.
For the earlier problem, I tend to use "married" for the deceased spouses, even if the sim remarried.
One question I have is, are you planning on adding gender colors? Like, Family Echo has pink/blue depending on the gender. I ask because I tend not to take pictures of the non-heirs' families, so I have just the default silhouette. It would be nice to have the option of making the circle around the picture a color depending on the gender. Here's my family to show what I mean.
Looks fantastic, I have signed up! Will have a look at the guides later on and hopefully have a little play around tonight. Really looking forward to this!
I'm using s4pe for exporting the pictures of my Sims.
You can use the localthumbnailcache file and open it with s4pe then export.
So this is what I've been doing for the pic
- Delete the current localthumbnail file
- Go into the game and navigate around your tree until all pictures are loaded
- Close the game
- Open localthumbnail file with s4pe and export the pictures to a png.
Well your first question is almost kind of philosphical - Does somebody stop being your sim's spouse because they've passed away? In my eyes, they'd still be a partner. We're thinks ng of potentially including an age drop down that would cover all stages from Child to Deceased in the future.
The one time flings - I'd probably just call them partners. I think if we get too granular with it (one night hookup, a girlfriend of two weeks, they went out for a life stage...) it might get a bit much and hard to navigate all the menus!
The biological parent of the clone would be the clonee.
Just one status would be fine: Fling (for example)
I agree that the other randomness in my game is probably quite unique
For the earlier problem, I tend to use "married" for the deceased spouses, even if the sim remarried.
One question I have is, are you planning on adding gender colors? Like, Family Echo has pink/blue depending on the gender. I ask because I tend not to take pictures of the non-heirs' families, so I have just the default silhouette. It would be nice to have the option of making the circle around the picture a color depending on the gender. Here's my family to show what I mean.
Oh a circle color depending the gender would be really nice!
One question I have is, are you planning on adding gender colors? Like, Family Echo has pink/blue depending on the gender. I ask because I tend not to take pictures of the non-heirs' families, so I have just the default silhouette. It would be nice to have the option of making the circle around the picture a color depending on the gender. Here's my family to show what I mean.
For the earlier problem, I tend to use "married" for the deceased spouses, even if the sim remarried.
One question I have is, are you planning on adding gender colors? Like, Family Echo has pink/blue depending on the gender. I ask because I tend not to take pictures of the non-heirs' families, so I have just the default silhouette. It would be nice to have the option of making the circle around the picture a color depending on the gender. Here's my family to show what I mean.
Oh a circle color depending the gender would be really nice!
@ernesdo & @fabeme A way of getting around this would be for you to upload a placeholder image for the people without avatars, either your own or a stock one from a source like iconfinder.
We are unlikely to introduce a feature like this by default since it would almost be enforcing a gender stereotype to an extent. (I do get the intention, and that there are users that would like it, but equally there would also be users who may dislike the feature, so you can see where it would get problematic.)
Looks fantastic, I have signed up! Will have a look at the guides later on and hopefully have a little play around tonight. Really looking forward to this!
@Simmy549 Awesome! Happy to have you on board! Hope you share your published tree with us in this thread when you get a chance to make one
I'm using s4pe for exporting the pictures of my Sims.
You can use the localthumbnailcache file and open it with s4pe then export.
So this is what I've been doing for the pic
- Delete the current localthumbnail file
- Go into the game and navigate around your tree until all pictures are loaded
- Close the game
- Open localthumbnail file with s4pe and export the pictures to a png.
For the earlier problem, I tend to use "married" for the deceased spouses, even if the sim remarried.
One question I have is, are you planning on adding gender colors? Like, Family Echo has pink/blue depending on the gender. I ask because I tend not to take pictures of the non-heirs' families, so I have just the default silhouette. It would be nice to have the option of making the circle around the picture a color depending on the gender. Here's my family to show what I mean.
Oh a circle color depending the gender would be really nice!
I disagree about this- I never liked the gendered colors in Family Echo, and originally when I started using it they didn't even give an option for other. One of the things that I like about Plum Tree right now is that it doesn't ask for gender, and if someone really wants to specify it they can write it in their sims' bios.
For the earlier problem, I tend to use "married" for the deceased spouses, even if the sim remarried.
One question I have is, are you planning on adding gender colors? Like, Family Echo has pink/blue depending on the gender. I ask because I tend not to take pictures of the non-heirs' families, so I have just the default silhouette. It would be nice to have the option of making the circle around the picture a color depending on the gender. Here's my family to show what I mean.
Oh a circle color depending the gender would be really nice!
I disagree about this- I never liked the gendered colors in Family Echo, and originally when I started using it they didn't even give an option for other. One of the things that I like about Plum Tree right now is that it doesn't ask for gender, and if someone really wants to specify it they can write it in their sims' bios.
Exactly what I was getting at in my reply above. Some users may appreciate such a feature, but some may dislike it, so it's not something we would implement.
@ernesdo & @fabeme A way of getting around this would be for you to upload a placeholder image for the people without avatars, either your own or a stock one from a source like iconfinder.
We are unlikely to introduce a feature like this by default since it would almost be enforcing a gender stereotype to an extent. (I do get the intention, and that there are users that would like it, but equally there would also be users who may dislike the feature, so you can see where it would get problematic.)
Maybe you could upload those to the server and people could choose to upload their own avatars or those generic ones (or none like now) ? Maybe also a pair that has a male/female figure instead of colors ?
Wow...
Thank you for taking the time to create such as awesome app. As a family player, I pretty much only play legacies and this will come in super handy. I'm going to go create my account right now.
A way of getting around this would be for you to upload a placeholder image for the people without avatars, either your own or a stock one from a source like iconfinder.
We are unlikely to introduce a feature like this by default since it would almost be enforcing a gender stereotype to an extent. (I do get the intention, and that there are users that would like it, but equally there would also be users who may dislike the feature, so you can see where it would get problematic.)
Maybe you could upload those to the server and people could choose to upload their own avatars or those generic ones (or none like now) ? Maybe also a pair that has a male/female figure instead of colors ?
Stock images wouldn't be an immediate priority for us at this stage - perhaps in the future when we look further into customisation options
Wow...
Thank you for taking the time to create such as awesome app. As a family player, I pretty much only play legacies and this will come in super handy. I'm going to go create my account right now.
@Jase So happy you like it! I play exclusively legacy-style too, so I can relate!
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It looks really awesome It kind of makes me want to make a family tree just so I can use it (my Sims have gotten as far as gen 2...). On the other hand my main Sim does have a big family, except I never made them - I guess I'll be generating relatives for her in CAS .
@ThePlumbob I do have a question though (and I haven't seen it in the thread yet, or I skimmed over it), will you, at some point in the future, be looking into different language versions of the app? I can imagine players from other countries, who aren't that good at English, would love to make use of it in a language they're more comfortable with.
I skimmed over the roadmap, so I know you still have a lot of things planned, but just pitching an idea here
It looks really awesome It kind of makes me want to make a family tree just so I can use it (my Sims have gotten as far as gen 2...). On the other hand my main Sim does have a big family, except I never made them - I guess I'll be generating relatives for her in CAS .
@ThePlumbob I do have a question though (and I haven't seen it in the thread yet, or I skimmed over it), will you, at some point in the future, be looking into different language versions of the app? I can imagine players from other countries, who aren't that good at English, would love to make use of it in a language they're more comfortable with.
I skimmed over the roadmap, so I know you still have a lot of things planned, but just pitching an idea here
@MDianaSanders That's a great question to ask! We would love to look into language localisation of the app somewhere down the line, the only issue with this is we'd actually need volunteers who would help us with the translation, since we aren't proficient in many languages But definitely something we would like to explore in the future!
I've got news for those of you who have been looking for an alternative family tree tool to track your sim families in - we've launched a public beta for our family tree app, The Plum Tree.
We made this web app specifically for TS4, so you can add your sims' traits, aspirations and bios as well. The Plum Tree can be accessed from most standard web browsers. You can learn more about what the tool does and how it works here.
The app is still in beta, but we have now opened this up, which means that if you'd like to use it, you can just head on over to theplumtreeapp.com and create your account.
Check out the post below for quick links and latest news. Remember this is still a beta so there might be some kinks - but we hope you enjoy!
One thing that bothers me is my kids' future wife's parents can't be added to her side of the family tree.
Yeah, I had thought about the issues of gender coloration when I made my post, but figured I'd ask about having it as an option so those who don't like it don't have to use it. Thank you for the idea of uploading a placeholder image though! I'm going to go ahead and do that by having a purple image for girls and lime green for boys~
Green isn't the best choice when the background is green. xD Blue for boys, purple for girls.
@ThePlumbob Thanks I really like my avatar too.
As for the volunteer translators, you can list me as a possible volunteer for the Dutch language version. I'd love to help out, but whether I'll be able to will depend on how much time I have or can make for it.
I've got news for those of you who have been looking for an alternative family tree tool to track your sim families in - we've launched a public beta for our family tree app, The Plum Tree.
We made this web app specifically for TS4, so you can add your sims' traits, aspirations and bios as well. The Plum Tree can be accessed from most standard web browsers. You can learn more about what the tool does and how it works here.
The app is still in beta, but we have now opened this up, which means that if you'd like to use it, you can just head on over to theplumtreeapp.com and create your account.
Check out the post below for quick links and latest news. Remember this is still a beta so there might be some kinks - but we hope you enjoy!
One thing that bothers me is my kids' future wife's parents can't be added to her side of the family tree.
Hey @HillyBeth ! Partner's parents/siblings are a very highly requested feature, if you check out our FAQ and Roadmap you can learn a bit more about why this is not currently possible and how we plan to address that in the future
Yeah, I had thought about the issues of gender coloration when I made my post, but figured I'd ask about having it as an option so those who don't like it don't have to use it. Thank you for the idea of uploading a placeholder image though! I'm going to go ahead and do that by having a purple image for girls and lime green for boys~
@ernesdo That sounds really cool, I imagine the tree will look quite vibrant! I look forward to seeing it
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Mine is growing right now and having 5 partners seems a bit much for the representation (as you can see for Vernon Behr): http://app.theplumtreeapp.com/public.html#57af20068db55b0e00e86a0e
It gets a bit getting used to the handling but I'm loving recreating my butchered family tree from old saves
It's also very stable. I haven't seen any errors since the one you fixed.
Anyways, few more suggestions:
- Partner Status: Deceased or something. Ex Partner just doesn't sound right for those that lost their partner
- Also, some of my Sims liked to do one night stands and I don't would really would count them as neither partner nor ex-partner but more of a:ups. Also MCCC has done some weird adopting in my game so now I have two Sims that have never been partner adopt a child together (yeah, I know, it's weird). So having some other type of status for those would also be great.
- The Clone one is a tiny bit unclear to me. Who would be the biological parents ? The same as your clone OR the clone itself ?
Please do not send me PMs/post on my wall if you're looking for help. I can't attend to those. You can find me at AnswerHQ.
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Well your first question is almost kind of philosphical - Does somebody stop being your sim's spouse because they've passed away? In my eyes, they'd still be a partner. We're thinks ng of potentially including an age drop down that would cover all stages from Child to Deceased in the future.
The one time flings - I'd probably just call them partners. I think if we get too granular with it (one night hookup, a girlfriend of two weeks, they went out for a life stage...) it might get a bit much and hard to navigate all the menus!
The biological parent of the clone would be the clonee.
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One question I have is, are you planning on adding gender colors? Like, Family Echo has pink/blue depending on the gender. I ask because I tend not to take pictures of the non-heirs' families, so I have just the default silhouette. It would be nice to have the option of making the circle around the picture a color depending on the gender. Here's my family to show what I mean.
You can use the localthumbnailcache file and open it with s4pe then export.
So this is what I've been doing for the pic
- Delete the current localthumbnail file
- Go into the game and navigate around your tree until all pictures are loaded
- Close the game
- Open localthumbnail file with s4pe and export the pictures to a png.
Please do not send me PMs/post on my wall if you're looking for help. I can't attend to those. You can find me at AnswerHQ.
How to report bugs at AnswersHQ
AHQ Tutorial
Just one status would be fine: Fling (for example)
I agree that the other randomness in my game is probably quite unique
Please do not send me PMs/post on my wall if you're looking for help. I can't attend to those. You can find me at AnswerHQ.
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Oh a circle color depending the gender would be really nice!
@ernesdo & @fabeme A way of getting around this would be for you to upload a placeholder image for the people without avatars, either your own or a stock one from a source like iconfinder.
We are unlikely to introduce a feature like this by default since it would almost be enforcing a gender stereotype to an extent. (I do get the intention, and that there are users that would like it, but equally there would also be users who may dislike the feature, so you can see where it would get problematic.)
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@Simmy549 Awesome! Happy to have you on board! Hope you share your published tree with us in this thread when you get a chance to make one
That's cool! Definitely very interesting!
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Exactly what I was getting at in my reply above. Some users may appreciate such a feature, but some may dislike it, so it's not something we would implement.
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Maybe you could upload those to the server and people could choose to upload their own avatars or those generic ones (or none like now) ? Maybe also a pair that has a male/female figure instead of colors ?
Please do not send me PMs/post on my wall if you're looking for help. I can't attend to those. You can find me at AnswerHQ.
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AHQ Tutorial
Thank you for taking the time to create such as awesome app. As a family player, I pretty much only play legacies and this will come in super handy. I'm going to go create my account right now.
Stock images wouldn't be an immediate priority for us at this stage - perhaps in the future when we look further into customisation options
@Jase So happy you like it! I play exclusively legacy-style too, so I can relate!
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Yep! It's in my signature
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@ThePlumbob I do have a question though (and I haven't seen it in the thread yet, or I skimmed over it), will you, at some point in the future, be looking into different language versions of the app? I can imagine players from other countries, who aren't that good at English, would love to make use of it in a language they're more comfortable with.
I skimmed over the roadmap, so I know you still have a lot of things planned, but just pitching an idea here
@MDianaSanders That's a great question to ask! We would love to look into language localisation of the app somewhere down the line, the only issue with this is we'd actually need volunteers who would help us with the translation, since we aren't proficient in many languages
Unrelated - I adore your avatar! So summery!
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One thing that bothers me is my kids' future wife's parents can't be added to her side of the family tree.
LINK: http://app.theplumtreeapp.com/public.html#57b0a7adf978430e000498e7
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Green isn't the best choice when the background is green. xD Blue for boys, purple for girls.
As for the volunteer translators, you can list me as a possible volunteer for the Dutch language version. I'd love to help out, but whether I'll be able to will depend on how much time I have or can make for it.
Hey @HillyBeth ! Partner's parents/siblings are a very highly requested feature, if you check out our FAQ and Roadmap you can learn a bit more about why this is not currently possible and how we plan to address that in the future
@ernesdo That sounds really cool, I imagine the tree will look quite vibrant!
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