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Piperbird
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Reading recent patch notes made me want to try the game again. So I made a new Sim, stuck her in a cheap premade home, and started her writing books. The weirdness started right away.
The welcome party of three showed up after a few hours. Two stayed on the porch, where I went out to greet them, but the third walked straight into my house and started playing on the computer, without a single word to my Sim. After a while, she stopped playing on the computer and helped herself to a bunch of fruit cake. Long after my two new friends went home, she was crying about needing to pee and being tired, all while refusing to leave my home. She stayed all night, waving about being unhappy, before FINALLY leaving the next day.
The glitch that leaves your full progress bar over your head forever is still happening, only now sleep does not get rid of it, so that was a bummer.
For some reason my Sim wont shower even though the shower is clean, accessible, and not broken. Also, using the toilet seems to cancel anything else in the queue. (These are fixed now, yay!)
But here's the thing that made me want to post this. Here is Travis. Travis is standing on my porch. I am currently talking to Travis. I am also currently getting a text from Travis stating he would like to come over and hang out.
Please, I WANT to love this game, but every time I attempt to play again, there are nothing but glitches and issues. ~_~
The welcome party of three showed up after a few hours. Two stayed on the porch, where I went out to greet them, but the third walked straight into my house and started playing on the computer, without a single word to my Sim. After a while, she stopped playing on the computer and helped herself to a bunch of fruit cake. Long after my two new friends went home, she was crying about needing to pee and being tired, all while refusing to leave my home. She stayed all night, waving about being unhappy, before FINALLY leaving the next day.
The glitch that leaves your full progress bar over your head forever is still happening, only now sleep does not get rid of it, so that was a bummer.
For some reason my Sim wont shower even though the shower is clean, accessible, and not broken. Also, using the toilet seems to cancel anything else in the queue. (These are fixed now, yay!)
But here's the thing that made me want to post this. Here is Travis. Travis is standing on my porch. I am currently talking to Travis. I am also currently getting a text from Travis stating he would like to come over and hang out.
Please, I WANT to love this game, but every time I attempt to play again, there are nothing but glitches and issues. ~_~
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I do that when I play as well. It makes the game more fun to be creative and pretend the woman is being rude. I tend to be a story teller as I play.
ETA: the not showering thing worries me because I saw someone else mention it on the forum. I haven't run into it in my game and hopefully I don't.
Also, I thought they fixed the toilet cancel thing? I'm pretty sure they mentioned it in the newest patch. Anyways, I hope you can eventually enjoy this game to the fullest. It is a ton of fun when it's not bugging out. x
(the not showering issue got solved in today's patch btw didn't it?)
Understandable. I am glad that the game is 64 bit now, but unfortunately a typical EA update as of late. Fix a couple things and break more things. It's the sloppiest programming I've ever seen. It gives the impression that they don't even test it before they just put it out there.
― Mark Twain
I queue up eat breakfast, then publish books at the mailbox. So my Sim carries her plate to the mailbox, mails the books, stands there eating, then places the plate on the sidewalk where I can't pick it up again.
My Sim comes home tense from work, so I queue up a bubble bath, then the toilet, then read a book. She takes the bath, reads the book on the can, then stands in the bathroom reading instead of going to any of the comfortable places to sit.
The next morning I queue up the toilet, then calling a friend. She calls WHILE using the bathroom.
While eating, I notice the option to flush the toilet is available. I thought that was strange, because I thought my Sim always did. So I queue it up for after she is done eating. She gets up, flushes her dinner, then goes and watches TV. Since she didn't actually eat anything, I have to make her a second dinner.
My Sim is reading when she gets hungry. She puts her book down (in the randomest places) and goes to eat. She needs to read for work, though, so I queue reading for when she is done eating. So she puts her food down (on the floor, naturally), and goes back to the book. No, you need to eat first. Puts the book behind the TV and eats standing in the kitchen.
My Sim NEVER stops texting. While eating, while writing, while watching TV, while talking face to face with another Sim. I wish we could take those phones away, it slows down what they are supposed to be doing.
I am constantly fighting with my Sim to just sit there and do as commanded, but the multi tasking feature makes them do whatever they want.
I also have several collection and emotion related problems that make this game such a mess for me to play.
This is funny but odd
For me, the toilet bug is fixed today. Maybe you might want to repair your game.
The plate on the side walk will just disappear on its own, don't worry.
Yeah, they won't know where to sit and read unless you tell them too, cuz they don't mind standing either. Sims 4 sims won't get any uncomfortable moodlet for standing for too long, so I think they don't really care. But if you want them to sit down, you would have to instruct them to.
And about the multi tasking, it's all about experience. The more you play, the more you know what things the sims will put into the multi-task queue and what they won't. I would suggest you only tell them to read after you've done everything that needs to be done. How to know when your sim is not going to multi task something is when you queue things up and they all appear above the white-ish gray bar besides their emotion. Once something you queued is sliding down into the white bar, it means they're going to multi task those actions.
For this next one, I've queued some other things that I know won't drop into the multi task bar. Also, it seems that sims can only multi task up to 4 things at a time. And yes the white bar will expand a little bit to make way for another task icon. Over here, you can only see there's barely space for 3. Note that in TS4, sims can use the treadmill and watch TV, but over here, the treadmill is a bit far from the TV, so it can't be done and also, the sims are 'smart' enough not to eat and workout at the same time.
Now, I told him to talk to his room mate beside him.
Again, all of this won't help you much cuz your sims will still multi task. I wish the player could drag the actions in the multi task queue up to the normal queue if they don't want their sims to multi task. I think that will be a neat feature. Someone write that genius idea down!
But I hope this little tutorial could maybe make you aware of what things sims multi task, when you look at how their queue moves and shifts around on its own.
Other things that could be mutlitasked that could annoy players: eating and painting, playing with a mold of clay and painting, maybe drinking and painting, but I'm not too sure about that one, drinking and taking a bath, eating and trimming a bonsai plant, eating and brushing teeth, and eating harvests and using the toilet.
Glitches do not get overlooked with me, I've just been very fortunate in having very few. I wish people would not make blanket statements suggesting that those who love this game are just ignoring serious issues.
The UI is a mess - no sorting is just the start. Build/buy catalog UI. Sweet lord, my teenage son's bedroom is tidier and easier to find things in. Want to fertilize a plant or add some bait, nope no stacking. You will have a middle finger like Hercules from all that button wheel exercise
Economic system is just nonsensical. I mean what? eh? Give individual sims their own money! Did they really not think of that?
The essential interactions are shallow and have no long lasting consequences unless you make them so - see below for relationship culling. The last thing of any consequence for your sim in the game - gone.
You can't record anything that connects to your sims as they nerfed the already pathetic memory system. This is compounded by the removal of a fundamental mechanic of the game - building relationships, so no ingame info about who your sim interacted with over time, either.
The AI both amazes me and makes me shake my head in disbelief....there simply isn't room in this post for my full views on that...except, why, but why when two sims are cuddling and getting it all on, does one of them suddenly instantly drop everything in his/her queue to run to the other end of the neighbourhood to introduce themselves to some random townie? 🐸🐸🐸🐸?
I have more, oh do I have more.....
...but you wanted to know what I get from the game?
Well, I like fiddling and messing with software and this game allows me to do that in spades and it works, just about, well enough for me to get a real buzz out of it. It runs really well performance wise. I also think it looks really pretty. And I have a love of character creators - the one thing the game does brilliantly, but then, the CAS UI, outfit management and control.....sigh.
The bottom line for me, is that there is nothing else like it, so it is this or nothing. If someone actually did a good one then I'd be all over that.
I won't say I really don't love playing the game, because I do - a lot. But this is because I have come to accept that in order for the game to play out the way I like, then I just have to find work rounds with lots of pausing and micromanagement and/or the addition of mods and the use of 'cheats' to somehow gain control over the parameters I would like to set. The game is a certainly a good lesson in the discipline of patience.
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day's divinity....
The Ghost Song - Jim Morrison
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LOL, not anybody saying people that like sims 4 like bugged things XD Sims 3 alone needed a mod to take care of routing of cars and taxis and sims that crashed my game and made it unplayable every 15 min. Plus after WA my old saves were ruined. Sims 3 is imo the buggiest sims to ever exist. We had Twallan mod for a reason. And sims 3 was bugged since the first EP.
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Everything you're describing I experience exactly the same way. Unpredictable, random, annoying, time consuming. But I really think this is a matter of preference and perception. I've seen people getting completely irritated because their sim in 3 takes a strange route to get somewhere, where I genuinely really don't care. You want to play the guitar outside knee deep in the snow even when I built you a living room the size of a football pitch? Why not, go ahead you silly man, while I focus on the others. But objectively that's odd behaviour as well that can break the immersion, I just happen to not mind. I've seen multitasking being cheered so many times, presented as one of the greatest features in this game, where for me it's just a nuisance. Again, it's a matter of perception and priorities I think.
I went in today and played my fave family, because even when they drive me insane with their musical chairs and broken plumbing and yapping, I'll still love 'em. Well, the parents, really, not so much the kids. I sent the three boys off to go chat at the other end of the street, when I needed a break from them. I'll always wish that they would make progression possible on separate lots, so while the kids visit friends, mum can upgrade her rocket, and hubby can still go work out at the gym or go find a tomato. Honestly, it bugs me so much that I can't have that. I don't let the kids accept invitations from friends because of that. And so everyone just stays home and chats and chats and chats. And then I'm outta there.
Edit: Misspelled tomato.
The bar (conversation) thing or if your Sim was in a bar or not is an everyday occurrence in my game. They are across the room talking with someone else but I think @JoAnne65 hit the nail on the head, and people just ignore this sloppy type of thing and pretend something like that is they were so put off by the rude Sim they didn't want to hear what they had to say...which is bull hockey. Plum programming, AKA talking to someone else not even facing or acknowledging your Sim being rude, and just carrying on as if nothing happened half way across the room or back to back or whatever, just plum programming.
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@DeKay - thank you! Those pics of multitasking were lovely. ^_^
I really do want to like this game. This is my third attempt to try it, and although I have been tempted a few times, I have refused to purchase any of the extras. The constant excuse of 'it will be better when there is more stuff (aka: after I throw more money at it)' just does not fly with me. Because my issue is not lack of content and game play - that is the entire purpose of extras, and that is OK- but the core problems with the base game that extras will not fix.
I have not run in to the emotion based glitches yet that caused me to quit playing the last time. I really hope they were fixed, and not that I just have not encountered them yet.
I guess I mostly just feel like I cannot connect with these Sims for some reason. I can't bring myself to care about what happens to them, or to try to push their lives in different directions.
I adore TS3, and still play it to this day, but I am really beginning to fear it will be my last Sims game. I seem to have been very fortunate to not experience any of the bugs others talk about having in TS3.
(Although TS4 Build Mode is flipping brilliant)