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Pardon, I'm on my phone and can't properly tag people. I've been thinking about this for a long time and I feel really bothered. I want to know what your opinions are.
I am a huge hypocrite I think. So I redownloaded the sims 4 after having it uninstalled for a month and all the expansions that I bought, bought spa day but haven't played officially since April 23rd.
@luthienrising said
It's okay - people are allowed to change their minds as many times as they like
I hope you find you enjoy it now! and that you don't feel too bad about it if you don't.
It's really weird. Like I feel kind of tempted and pressured to play it because it's been in my life for 14 years, but I feel like something is missing and it's not just toddlers. It's other things too that I can't quite put my finger on. It's weird how I bought spa day because I felt maybe that would help but since I haven't played since April. I don't know. I should know better than to throw money at something because it's a temporary solution to what seems like a permanent problem. I know the gurus are trying, I'm on a Mac so I had to wait till February to get it. I waited till April thinking bugs and other things would be fixed. Somehow that it would be better but...it's weird. Like I don't want to give up on something that's been a part of my life for so long but I just don't have the interest to play anymore I think. However, I keep it installed. Why? I don't know. I mean I can wait an hour for everything to redownload if I uninstall it again...now I'm rambling
EDIT: MOVED TO OFF TOPIC CHAT FOR THE TURN IT TOOK
I am a huge hypocrite I think. So I redownloaded the sims 4 after having it uninstalled for a month and all the expansions that I bought, bought spa day but haven't played officially since April 23rd.
@luthienrising said
It's okay - people are allowed to change their minds as many times as they like
I hope you find you enjoy it now! and that you don't feel too bad about it if you don't.It's really weird. Like I feel kind of tempted and pressured to play it because it's been in my life for 14 years, but I feel like something is missing and it's not just toddlers. It's other things too that I can't quite put my finger on. It's weird how I bought spa day because I felt maybe that would help but since I haven't played since April. I don't know. I should know better than to throw money at something because it's a temporary solution to what seems like a permanent problem. I know the gurus are trying, I'm on a Mac so I had to wait till February to get it. I waited till April thinking bugs and other things would be fixed. Somehow that it would be better but...it's weird. Like I don't want to give up on something that's been a part of my life for so long but I just don't have the interest to play anymore I think. However, I keep it installed. Why? I don't know. I mean I can wait an hour for everything to redownload if I uninstall it again...now I'm rambling
EDIT: MOVED TO OFF TOPIC CHAT FOR THE TURN IT TOOK
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Still refuse to by anything for it though. XD
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I still play, have a few mods to correct what's wrong, but yeah... it quickly gets frustrating after 30 minutes
I do that with a lot of my games tbh, it's alright. Sometimes you'll be disinterested for a period of time, then you can pick it up again after a while and enjoy it with a fresher perspective. Too much of one thing could be overwhelming, then feeling like it should be part of a daily routine but you just don't feel like doing it anymore. Kinda like me and exercise...
I used to often draw, write, paint, etc, but I gave up on them plenty of times because of feeling pressured of doing one thing and not being able to balance all my hobbies together where I can do everything within a day. But sometimes, I find myself cleaning and fixing up my trumpet or doing exercises on my piano because I feel like I'm going to play them and make it part of my life again, then not touch it for several weeks or months at a time.
As for the Sims 4, since it's become the kind of game where it's mostly enjoyable to more veteran players when it's modded to fix or add most of the little things that were featured in prior games, it's not much of a surprise that you feel this way. Since it's got the name, I feel like maybe you're holding onto some sort of hope where it'll just be like how it's supposed to be and not the "flop" several people comment about it? I'm not that sure though, just speculating by the way you wrote it.
Just know it's okay. Everyone goes through this.
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It's really weird. Like I feel kind of tempted and pressured to play it because it's been in my life for 14 years, but I feel like something is missing
I know exactly how you feel. I felt the very same about S3. I played it, but I didn't enjoy it. And new content never fixed that for me. It only showed more and more that there was something missing for me in it.
Don't feel bad if this one is not what you like. No one says you have to. For me? I love this one. To each our own right?
I still think TS4 is a disappointment for a plethora of reasons I've discussed ad nauseam. Having said all of that, I think they did a pretty good job with Spa Day. I give it a solid "A", and if it had been added to a fully fleshed out base game, I'd be through the roof about it! I just wish they would focus on fleshing out the base game so that people feel like they got their initial money's worth before constantly reaching for our wallets.
Like you, I keep it installed. Like you, I have no idea why.
Every so often, I log in and think: "Maybe this time I will enjoy it..."
And then, all the little, lazy annoyances and cut corners slap me in the face and I immediately log back out.
My main family: The Drapers. Thinking about them brings a smile to my face, however, the thing that bugs me is that SO much of what makes me smile when thinking about them... is actually a lie. I have all of these stories about these wonderful sims that I created at launch and while absolutely some of the things happened in game (the birth of their children, for instance), but, the rest of it- is all fake screenshots used to commemorate stories that exist only in my head because they never actually happened in the game... because the game doesn't support my play style. I have screenshots of Avery breaking up with her first boyfriend; the first blemish on an otherwise charmed life. It was supposed to be this drastic and defining moment. I had to use a cheat and add him to the family and do it myself because I knew the game would never do it for me. I once had her father deliberately walk in on her and her boyfriend fooling around in her bedroom. I wanted an explosion of anger followed by a calm and rational conversation about boys. I wanted a freakin' Full House episode! What I got was a father who didn't even react. He didn't care. He turned on the radio and started dancing.
I wish desperately that all of this were reversed. I wish instead of having screenshots commemorating stories that took place in my mind that I had reason to take screenshots because a decidedly memorable or impactful event had just happened in game.
Unfortunately, at the end of the day, what we are left with is this 🐸🐸🐸🐸 version of The Truman Show meets Pleasantville and sometimes, it makes me want to scream.
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But I've never had to deal with these kinds of issues and quality performance. I've never played a game that was so rushed and sloppily put together and made by a team that just doesn't seem care about the game or their fans. It's frustrating.
Spa Day is a good pack though. They really nailed it there
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I see what you are saying. I've played sims and bought everything sims related upon release since Sims 1 came out. It's been part of my routine for years and years. It's been my guilty pleasure, my only true game. My fun, my "me time", and I've enjoyed it. But something is not there in this one. I know for sure it's toddlers, but I don't think that's it. I am taking a break from sims (and my youtube channel) because I just can't find the passion to play like I use to could. Yet I still buy everything upon release (bought Spa Day before Origin even released it by buying in game). I played it for long enough for my sim to get a hand and foot massage and a couple back massages, and I'm done.
I can't bring myself to uninstall yet, but I know the fun... the passion... it's not there. I feel like I'm abandoning a friend, but I won't do this for long. I did have fun with Spa Day... but it was like... meh, somethings not there. I've given myself a deadline. If toddlers, at least, aren't back by the one year anniversary (or at least word about the toddlers that is confirmed) I'm done. I won't keep throwing my money at a game that gives me little to no fun and pleasure. It's been a year and I've only added 800+ hours on my game. I could have added that or more in a couple months on Sims 3... this has been almost a year. So I have tried. Lord knows I have tried. But, I'm getting done.
Unfortunately, for me, it's not just toddlers; toddlers is usually the most convenient and recognizable rallying cry. I'm afraid that for me the game is fundamentally far too lacking in too many areas. It's in the I.C.U and it's 6 and 12 and pickin' if it winds up in the recovery ward or I finally just sign the DNR.
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@ASDF0716 Well put! A bit morbid in a way but still gave me a quiet little chuckle
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You also sound like you might be stressed in other ways and .. your downtime should be with something you enjoy. If you are studying law you will need downtime... relaxation. I'm not sure how much free time you had before or if your prior games just clicked better. I took a break on the third game. It didn't click for me either. I didn't feel bad leaving the game behind. I was not part of a community online though. It was a game that I wanted to like and just didn't. There is nothing wrong with not liking it.
Is it the community as much as the game? If its the community there is nothing stopping you from keeping in touch .. or weaning yourself off if that's what is good for you in your life right now.
I'm on a Mac too, but I played it since release on my windows partition. I've gotten past the 'weird.' I think I know what the issues are, I just don't know what a good solution would be.
I also bought Spa Day, and to me, I think it might have been the cure. That's when I started to play with just one big family, and I suddenly discovered that there is literally nothing for sims to do other than socialize or go to a venue.
I always kind of knew, but it never hit me until after buying one more game pack for it. It struck me that this is it. We are several patches, 2 Game Packs, 2 Stuff Packs, and 1 EP in, and there is still literally nothing to do.
Absolutely nothing. The gameplay is empty and compensated by nothing but repetitive goals.
It was part of my life for 10 years. I made life long friendships, had a guild that I equated to a family, and had an absolute blast. However, I began finding myself playing less and less because it started to lose that feeling.
I would unsub and uninstall, only to resub and reinstall when a new EP came out. I believed whatever expansion we were on would fix my issues with the game. Unfortunately it didn't, and I finally had to ask myself why I was still playing. When I could not think of a valid reason I knew it was time. It was one of the best gaming decisions I have ever made.
Don't get me wrong. It hurt like a son of a plum I cried when I cancelled my sub for the last time, and when I uninstalled. I am incredibly grateful for the time I spent playing the game, and I still have my friends. If you are worried about losing friends within the community, exchange information. If you/them have a twitter/tumblr/facebook find each other there. Or, keep in contact via messages here if you want
It's the same for TS4, or any of the games in the series. If you stop playing, or you do not purchase any of the EPs, base games or so on...it's okay. It happens to each and every single gamer out there. If you take a temporarly leave for TS4, to see if you may enjoy it later, it's okay. If you never play it again, it's okay too.
I'm not sure if this helped, or if it's just a wall of my rambling text lol. I just thought I would say....I have been there, and it'll be okay.
I think it's a tad different with the sims. Coming from an anti-social player, it's not friends I'm afraid of losing. I have none and am proud of wearing that badge. It's that sense of being able to lose myself from the day-to-day grind of social acceptances that threatens me.
I loved The Sims (the original) for the simple fact that I could elude reality. I loved it for the sense that I could create a quasi reality that didn't include me or anyone I knew.
I love The Sims 2 for the same reasons. I could create the world I envisioned and play it out. I could create the cast I wanted that had nothing to do with me or my real life, and I could play each and every one for the effort I put into them.
After that, all was lost.
I actually understand where you are coming from.
I had little to no friends growing up, and all the way in the my mid-twenties. I was painfully shy, and specific events in my past prevented me from trusting, and speaking to others. I turned more, and more to gaming for that escape from reality. Which included The Sims, TS2 specifically, as it provided a place to be alone.
Despite WoW being a "social" game it's not why I started playing or even continued to play. I played only for that escape as well. I did not speak to others, I turned off chat, and emerced myself in the game. As with all of my games, I was there only to lose myself in the story I refused to group, join a guild, and so on. It was just my little character trying to save Azeroth. It wasn't until later that I took the plunge and did a little socializing. Which ended up being good for me, because it helped me to "blossom" I suppose, and work toward being more social/approachable in the real world.
Don't get me wrong, I still do not have many friends and I'm awkward as plum, but I'm okay with that.
As you said, The Sims (1,2,3,4) is that escape from reality and society. Which I think is a wonderful thing, games have this beautiful ability to provide a sanctuary that no where else can.
When a feature, or even that vibe is taken away, that ability is lost. Which is completely heartbreaking. Which is why I initially posted, just to say that I can understand how the OP feels.
Side Note: Forgive me for rambling, grammatical issues, spelling slip-up, or even not making much sense. It is rather late and I am out of coffee.
i really envy all the SimCity players, that they have an alternative to their beloved franchise
cause EA just doesn't deserve all that faith & all those excuses & the patience from fans
doesn't deserve modders correcting & fixing bugs for free, year after year after year
while TheSims players shoved year after year after year money into EAs pockets just to be presented with this buggy shallow surface of an Early Access insult
& with TS4 it feels just like mockery that slogan by Andrew Wilson : "Players first"
same as it felt to read : "You Rule"
it's just cruel ...
i am not playing my sims with TS4
i am protecting my sims from what this game is doing to all sims - offering them a shallow life & turning their characters into an exchangeable farce of boredom
it's like i would be playing a First Person Shooter & the devs would have offered me a first round of amo & after that i am left with a weapon but no amo anymore, i can run around in pretty designed sceneries & the enemies are comming & i'm unable to use my weapon, cause there is just no amo - that is what's wrong with TS4 - there is no real sims in it, no simulation, no sand in the box
all sims are only one sim & an extremely shallow one
i have no idea why the devs don't put sims into a The Sims game
don't they see that this is what's missing ?
why are they unable to know what this franchise, TheSims is ?
no addpack is ever gonna make TS4's basic flaws go away
either the devs finally put sims & put sandbox & put simulation into this game or they just should go program something else or just give up programming for good
i just don't get this disability to make a life simulation - i just don't get it
money is the communication channel EA understands best
throwing money at them is not the way to communicate that this game is lacking
i just hope for the sake of all people involved that EA is not just closing the entire simulations franchises & moving on to their hopes of money mountains of console & mobile gaming left with mere names of SimCity & TheSims on them without any simulation in them