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cujojax
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Its my own fault, I have been fooled by EA before.
The original Sims was basically my intro to getting into computer games, I loved it.
Played all 3 extensively, didn't bat and eye when it came to pre ordering the collectors edition for TS4, but the writing was on the wall when they chose not to hand out many copies for media to review. Had I read but one honest review of this before hand I would have spoken with CLOSING my wallet.
There is just so much missing from the game I am actually confused why they released it. You would think after SimCity (which got me too) the Mass Effect ending fiasco, getting voted worst company two years in a row, they would have done more for their loyal fans.
I understand there will be paid DLC, like a whole lot of it, but come on, there are some very basic things that are not included in a base game for 70 bucks? You cant gloss over the fact that because Sims now have emotions that we can overlook everything that came before. Its 2014, TS4 should be a massive step forward, but this feels like a huge step back.
First thing I notice is there is no pitch control which drives me nuts! You have to zoom all the way in, the controls feel very awkward.
EDIT: You are able to revert to the TS3 default camera, middle mouse pitch button in game options
You actually give your sims less traits in creator?
Losing story progression, small-heavy loading screen towns? No control over jobs? Lack of jobs in the first place; where are the classics, athlete, law, army? Picking from a handful of preset colors and patterns. Things like simple appliances missing.
I wont beat a dead horse about pools and toddlers missing but those hurt. (Some people say they chose to skip that part, which is fine since you could scale how many days one stayed at the age bracket in TS3, thus almost skipping it if you wanted anyways)
Things like seasons and pets should be standard now, a 70 buck game and Ill have to pay 30 to add those things I really was hoping was a thing of the past.
I get if you want to add new items, clothing, but a basic lack of features is a killer.
I dont know, I could play all night before and only realize I had because the sun was coming up, but a few hours in, I'm here on the forums, bored already.
EA this is simply unacceptable at this point. I will be returning this game until you admit its not finished or plan to have content added that wont nickle and dime me to death. Stop being so stubborn all the time.
As a review, graphics are great, I always enjoyed them though, house building is a big step forward, but in all honesty you better off continuning to play TS2 or TS3 with all your expansions until they annonce 5 and you can buy the entire Ts4 bundle and all its updates.
TL;DR save your money for now, OP never learned his lesson that anything with EA on it is nothing but a headache.
The original Sims was basically my intro to getting into computer games, I loved it.
Played all 3 extensively, didn't bat and eye when it came to pre ordering the collectors edition for TS4, but the writing was on the wall when they chose not to hand out many copies for media to review. Had I read but one honest review of this before hand I would have spoken with CLOSING my wallet.
There is just so much missing from the game I am actually confused why they released it. You would think after SimCity (which got me too) the Mass Effect ending fiasco, getting voted worst company two years in a row, they would have done more for their loyal fans.
I understand there will be paid DLC, like a whole lot of it, but come on, there are some very basic things that are not included in a base game for 70 bucks? You cant gloss over the fact that because Sims now have emotions that we can overlook everything that came before. Its 2014, TS4 should be a massive step forward, but this feels like a huge step back.
First thing I notice is there is no pitch control which drives me nuts! You have to zoom all the way in, the controls feel very awkward.
EDIT: You are able to revert to the TS3 default camera, middle mouse pitch button in game options
You actually give your sims less traits in creator?
Losing story progression, small-heavy loading screen towns? No control over jobs? Lack of jobs in the first place; where are the classics, athlete, law, army? Picking from a handful of preset colors and patterns. Things like simple appliances missing.
I wont beat a dead horse about pools and toddlers missing but those hurt. (Some people say they chose to skip that part, which is fine since you could scale how many days one stayed at the age bracket in TS3, thus almost skipping it if you wanted anyways)
Things like seasons and pets should be standard now, a 70 buck game and Ill have to pay 30 to add those things I really was hoping was a thing of the past.
I get if you want to add new items, clothing, but a basic lack of features is a killer.
I dont know, I could play all night before and only realize I had because the sun was coming up, but a few hours in, I'm here on the forums, bored already.
EA this is simply unacceptable at this point. I will be returning this game until you admit its not finished or plan to have content added that wont nickle and dime me to death. Stop being so stubborn all the time.
As a review, graphics are great, I always enjoyed them though, house building is a big step forward, but in all honesty you better off continuning to play TS2 or TS3 with all your expansions until they annonce 5 and you can buy the entire Ts4 bundle and all its updates.
TL;DR save your money for now, OP never learned his lesson that anything with EA on it is nothing but a headache.
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Yep....that's what I plan to do.
1) They have tons of new things and features. Yes, they took out a lot, but they did add stuff as well. Content wise we have more than sims 2 or 3 core games.
2) Jobs, We lost some jobs..but gain more options in the jobs. Now my evil sims have more options. So job choices are pretty ok.
3) The trait thing does not upset me that much. I like that less is more when it comes to moods and how sims act.
4) I agree some things should be in the core game, just not as much as people think. Maxis needs money, they are a company. So i don't mind them spreading things out. As long as the core game is fun. Lucky for them it is to me.
The rest of your post about controls and things I agree on. I'm sure it will improve in the future with more feedback.
@haburbian the problem is the only chance I can give them is 24 hours in the return window, so while I have always loved the Sims franchise and want it to succeed (the reasoning of my OP) if I DO NOT return it, Im basically stating that Im ok with the state of the game.
@Jadedsins
1) I think thats part of the issue, you would expect a new entry to the franchise to build on what they had, so keep what was good and add things like the new emotions
2) If the sims are not going to an actual place of work in this game, would it have been too much to ask they keep the original jobs as well?
3) fair enough
4) The core of the game is fun thats what we all love, some of the expansions I do believe are worth the money, but there are always just so many and with a hefty tag I dont see how anyone can justify having to pay for them all. Maybe add a seasons pass out of the gate that includes them
I am hoping with feedback things will improve but at this point I feel like it is better to wait it out and see how it shakes out.
For example one of the players said his sim got married but the wife left the house with the guests!! She didn't even had her name changed. LOL!!
Now THAT is a new thing we were not aware and we would like you to tell us about
But I have to thank you for taking the time and writing your first impression to us. Please do play it more and report back.
I agree on the simplistic things. Why? Not because of gurus I don't blame them I blame only the money hungry corporation that is EA. Whoever is the head president over there needs to be fired and replaced. He or she should have given the developers, programmers, etc. more time even if it meant delaying it until 2015 to make it as perfect as they could if they are trying to keep the core gamers for this franchise to continue paying hard earned money from their pockets.
On the price point, I just think a 70 buck game when you know you need at an extra 60ish minimum before it begins to feel compete is a bit shady.
We saw what the community was able to do for Mass Effect and SimCity, I think someone at the company listens, eventually.
But it always comes down to the almighty dollar.
@halimai While is is true I near 90% blindly bought the game, I did do some reading yet still failed to see how bare bones the launch was. Ya the character creator was awesome sure, but that hardly counts as gameplay.
I have been a fanboy from previous iterations, I had no reason to expect there wouldn't be more forward progress. While some is clear, there is to much not present to make up for it.
I will play today before writing it off and hopefully can come back with some more positive/negative impressions before writing it off.
It happens when we have high expectations. I was not impressed with the Sims 3 at all too. But I would always advice you to read extensively specially about Sims games.
This game has been like a roller coaster to me with the ups and downs. Right now I'm waiting for my game to arrive with no expectations. I know what things are missing. I just want to know more what things, positives, negatives, bugs and stuff like that are there.
I will be looking forward to your final impression.
This just looks like re hashed complaints.
That said I have since changed the camera back to sims 3 mode so its much better in that regard.
Otherwise sadly, its gonna be a return for me, Ive played all night now and I cant put my money into this product and claim to be satisfied.
Where is the little mail girl, the postman? my bills just appear magically I guess.
Cars drive by, but no cars? teens looking like adults? the game is missing its soul and charm imo.
The neighborhoods are even smaller then you think, go to the gym, decide you want to visit the library which you can see right beside the gym but you cant walk there, you warp through another loading screen.
The dates have goals now which are kinda neat but I cant take them out for dinner or to the movies anymore, there are no shops in town.
How about the time pace arrow that just warped through that activity and then goes back to normal pace.
I just cant comprehend how you can take out very basic QOL features and release something so empty, this is regression plain and simple.
It just doesnt sit right that they can sit here and release this in its current state, knowing full well they have paid DLC that people HAVE and WILL buy to make this anything other then the skelton it is.
I will say that it does look good, and it runs very well, at least the loads are quick. The multitasking along with different social choices from emotions are really all that stand out as new to me.
Why should I content myself with a skeleton when I have a fat beef to feed on. Unless I decide to become a scavenger? Crap is crap no matter how you want to embellish it.
Peace
Thanks for sharing your observations.
While there aren't many traditional career tracks, there are more in the sims 4 base game. There are 16 different career tracks, and there were 14 in the sims 3 base game. You have control over your jobs in sims 4. You can choose: leave work early, work hard, take risks, take it easy, make connections, normal.
One of my sims got that one, is a painter who almost never leave the house LOL!
The choosing what to do at work thing isn't new, but yeah there's more to do with work than there ever was before.
Someone has to say it lol
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/958714/cinebar-custom-content-clothes-updating-links/p1
I was hooked on all the first ones within a few hours. The Sims 3 got me hooked without me even realising in fact, despite the issues here and there I found I just couldn't go back to TS2 even when I tried to