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  • robotpanda34robotpanda34 Posts: 3,387 Member
    I feel like they rushed this game but when did EA didn't rush games...coughBattlefied 4,Mass effect 3cough
  • xBob18xBob18 Posts: 7,893 Member
    I keep on listening to TS2 soundtrack for an unknown reason. It's been 5 hours and it's been on replay since then.
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  • sgibson8sgibson8 Posts: 223 Member
    A day after the sims died, Bella was sad, two second later - eat Mac and Cheese - I'm happy again!
    -Mac and cheese makes anything better!

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  • UtaDagdaUtaDagda Posts: 1,556 Member
    bobyo2001 wrote: »
    joneswk wrote: »
    LeslieM25 wrote: »
    Yeah I was really surprised that no one was crying when he died! Maybe they have to have a relationship with the person to cry over them

    That would actually make sense. Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I normally don't get tore up over the deaths of people I don't know. Usually, at the most, it's a sort of "mango, that could have been me" sort of thing.
    So you'd nonchalantly step around the charred corpse in your kitchen? Heck, I'd be freaking out if some stranger came into my house and died in front of me, let alone someone who was at least an acquaintance. The emotions thing is a fib, that much is, so far, clear. Time will tell. Not holding out much hope when, presumably, their best offering (at this point) is this drab. Graphics do look nice, though.

    "I'm hungry... Oh wait, what's that? Just a dead body. Okay let's see what's inside the fridge."

    That....That's exactly what I would do. When I see food or a fridge I go to my happy place and nothing else matters.

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  • da13371amada13371ama Posts: 78 Member
    It will probably get better with EPs and patches, but yea the base game seems really bare-boned compared to the other base games.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 New Member
    da13371ama wrote: »
    It will probably get better with EPs and patches, but yea the base game seems really bare-boned compared to the other base games.

    That's what I thought about Sims 3, but it didn't happen.

  • Maxwell_CollinsMaxwell_Collins Posts: 143 Member
    There seems to be irony in this whole ordeal...

    So, everyone complains about bad coding, lack of emotions, and a rating of "bad game" was given to the Sims 4. Then, everyone praises Skyrim for how beautiful the game is, but fail to realize that the same problems that are plaguing the Sims 4 are also present in 2011's Game of the Year winner.

    Now, I'm not saying Skyrim was a bad game, but the Vanilla experience was just one thing: bland. The World was incredible, don't get me wrong, but I felt that several of Skyrim's most important aspects were very weak. Let's do some comparisons:

    First, Skyrim had bugs and Glitches galore! The base game was very buggy, some of which are game-breaking, and some of the glitches are horrible to look at. The Sims series in general is just as bad. Poor coding on the dev's part can cause some nasty bugs that few know how to correct except for expert modders. And guess what? Modders do the exact same thing for Skyrim!

    Second, the AI. The Sims series in general has HORRID AI, and the autonomy of many Sims is sometimes non-existent or unreliable. Skyrim suffers from a similar problem, with combat being he weakest part of the game.

    Finally, the modding. Both franchises have had a high modding capacity, but this also lifts the weight off of most developers. Games with a high modding capacity are often very bland without these mods in place. In Skyrim, the game only gets interesting if you MOD the game! The Sims is less reliant on mods, thankfully, but EA has been lazy when it comes to bug fixes, letting modders do the dirty work for the most part. This often leads the vanilla players in the dust, and ruins the game for them.

    Really, guys, there is so much irony in this topic. We hate on EA, refusing to see the work they HAVE done right, and also failing to look at some of the best games of the current generation and finding the flaws. I think people need to think a bit more and not jump on the band-wagon.
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  • deibreakdeibreak Posts: 386 Member
    Kamb64 wrote: »
    joneswk wrote: »
    LeslieM25 wrote: »
    Yeah I was really surprised that no one was crying when he died! Maybe they have to have a relationship with the person to cry over them

    That would actually make sense. Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I normally don't get tore up over the deaths of people I don't know. Usually, at the most, it's a sort of "mango, that could have been me" sort of thing.

    That is an interesting thought. And it makes sense. But, have we seen in any of the videos where a sim dies and his or her family was there to see it? How did they react? It's curious.

    Here is a video of a sim dying and his wife is crying by simsvip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWZMUnExsA
  • CapraCorn104CapraCorn104 Posts: 1,184 Member
    deibreak wrote: »
    Kamb64 wrote: »
    joneswk wrote: »
    LeslieM25 wrote: »
    Yeah I was really surprised that no one was crying when he died! Maybe they have to have a relationship with the person to cry over them

    That would actually make sense. Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I normally don't get tore up over the deaths of people I don't know. Usually, at the most, it's a sort of "mango, that could have been me" sort of thing.

    That is an interesting thought. And it makes sense. But, have we seen in any of the videos where a sim dies and his or her family was there to see it? How did they react? It's curious.

    Here is a video of a sim dying and his wife is crying by simsvip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWZMUnExsA
    See this is what I don't understand..how come the Sims cries in this when their husband dies, but it didn't in the livestream? A stronger relationship?
  • ebuchalaebuchala Posts: 4,945 Member
    deibreak wrote: »
    Kamb64 wrote: »
    joneswk wrote: »
    LeslieM25 wrote: »
    Yeah I was really surprised that no one was crying when he died! Maybe they have to have a relationship with the person to cry over them

    That would actually make sense. Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I normally don't get tore up over the deaths of people I don't know. Usually, at the most, it's a sort of "mango, that could have been me" sort of thing.

    That is an interesting thought. And it makes sense. But, have we seen in any of the videos where a sim dies and his or her family was there to see it? How did they react? It's curious.

    Here is a video of a sim dying and his wife is crying by simsvip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWZMUnExsA
    See this is what I don't understand..how come the Sims cries in this when their husband dies, but it didn't in the livestream? A stronger relationship?
    Pretty sure it has to be the relationship. The guy from today had almost no relationship with anyone on the lot. Maybe even negative relationships with most people. Doesn't mean they shouldn't have reacted somehow because that's just weird but I'm not surprised people didn't get too choked up over him dying.

    Either that or the girl in this video was crying because she was starving and Grimmy was taking too 🐸🐸🐸🐸 long to finish up. :p
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  • Zolt65Zolt65 Posts: 8,272 Member
    edited August 2014
    RazorXv2 wrote: »

    Yeeeah, I love this. See how all the Sims react and actually get a memory of having seen a Sim die before them? The description read differently depending on whether they were close to that Sim or not. I accidentally killed my male maid one time and everyone on the lot got the memory. I thought that was pretty cool. Very aware of their surroundings. D*mn. Makes me wanna go play TS2 again. Haha. Stop that.

    I'm still playing Sims2 NOT Sims3, so I WANT emotions AT LEAST on a level with S2.
    Sorry, but S4 emotions do not even come close to S2 emotions as you have pointed out.


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  • ebuchalaebuchala Posts: 4,945 Member
    RazorXv2 wrote: »

    Well, those were interesting. Looks like even in TS2, the relationship was the key.
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  • ebuchalaebuchala Posts: 4,945 Member
    RazorXv2 wrote: »

    Yeeeah, I love this. See how all the Sims react and actually get a memory of having seen a Sim die before them? The description read differently depending on whether they were close to that Sim or not. I accidentally killed my male maid one time and everyone on the lot got the memory. I thought that was pretty cool. Very aware of their surroundings. D*mn. Makes me wanna go play TS2 again. Haha. Stop that.

    I must be seeing it wrong then. At the beginning of the first video, two guys walked up to the person dying and then turned around and walked away. In the third video, half the people on the lot cried while the other half chatted and got mad at each other.
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  • HestiaHestia Posts: 1,997 Member
    ebuchala wrote: »
    RazorXv2 wrote: »

    Well, those were interesting. Looks like even in TS2, the relationship was the key.

    All Sims in Sims 2 react to death. Levels of reaction:

    - Cry = Friends -> Close relationship
    - Sigh = Acquaintance or stranger
    - Laugh = Negative relationship or enemies.
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  • freindlylolfreindlylol Posts: 358 Member
    i thought someone dying they would react more but maybe they did not know him enough
  • deibreakdeibreak Posts: 386 Member
    deibreak wrote: »
    Kamb64 wrote: »
    joneswk wrote: »
    LeslieM25 wrote: »
    Yeah I was really surprised that no one was crying when he died! Maybe they have to have a relationship with the person to cry over them

    That would actually make sense. Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I normally don't get tore up over the deaths of people I don't know. Usually, at the most, it's a sort of "mango, that could have been me" sort of thing.

    That is an interesting thought. And it makes sense. But, have we seen in any of the videos where a sim dies and his or her family was there to see it? How did they react? It's curious.

    Here is a video of a sim dying and his wife is crying by simsvip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWZMUnExsA
    See this is what I don't understand..how come the Sims cries in this when their husband dies, but it didn't in the livestream? A stronger relationship?

    I think that is exactly what happened. Honestly it used to annoy the crap out of me when my sims would be crying for 2 sim days because a sim they barely new died. I think this time around they made it to wear sims don't really react as much if they didn't have high relationship.
  • natashifiednatashified Posts: 3,314 Member
    OK!
  • InannaWintermoonInannaWintermoon Posts: 3,400 Member
    edited August 2014
    If people really react that way to a man on fire or a dead body, they need a nice little prison cell....
    It's quite drop from the top, so how ya feeling down there?
  • deibreakdeibreak Posts: 386 Member
    edited August 2014
    RazorXv2 wrote: »

    Oh my goodness lol that second video was so annoying haha, I loved how they all gathered around crying and then just went back to life like nothing. Those are such realistic reactions right!!! I mean sims making out next to a dead body, that happens in everday life right.

    Here is a video of sims 3 sim reacting realistically by just standing there while another sim is on fire.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHV8y9SyBug

    I honestly don't know why people act surprised how the sims reacted today, the series has always been unrealistic in so many ways. Why would they change this, it's part of what makes the sims the wacky game it is.
  • HestiaHestia Posts: 1,997 Member
    deibreak wrote: »
    RazorXv2 wrote: »

    Oh my goodness lol that second video was so annoying haha, I loved how they all gathered around crying and then just went back to life like nothing. Those are such realistic reactions right, just like this video of a sim just standing there while another sim is on fire.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHV8y9SyBug

    I honestly don't know why people act surprised how the sims reacted today, the series has always been unrealistic in so many ways.
    Not as realistic as it should be, however, more realistic than what has been represented in Sims 3 and Sims 4.
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  • InannaWintermoonInannaWintermoon Posts: 3,400 Member
    edited August 2014
    deibreak wrote: »
    RazorXv2 wrote: »

    Oh my goodness lol that second video was so annoying haha, I loved how they all gathered around crying and then just went back to life like nothing. Those are such realistic reactions right, just like this video of a sim just standing there while another sim is on fire.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHV8y9SyBug

    I honestly don't know why people act surprised how the sims reacted today, the series has always been unrealistic in so many ways.


    Ah but there was supposed to be improvement and emotions...PS all my TS2 - TS3 sims mourned for days after someone died or flew into a panic if they or another sim was on fire.
    An entire neighborhood of strangers died mourning an unknown family in TS2 when I played it...
    It's quite drop from the top, so how ya feeling down there?
  • OilbasedoleanderOilbasedoleander Posts: 2,967 Member
    deibreak wrote: »
    Kamb64 wrote: »
    joneswk wrote: »
    LeslieM25 wrote: »
    Yeah I was really surprised that no one was crying when he died! Maybe they have to have a relationship with the person to cry over them

    That would actually make sense. Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I normally don't get tore up over the deaths of people I don't know. Usually, at the most, it's a sort of "mango, that could have been me" sort of thing.

    That is an interesting thought. And it makes sense. But, have we seen in any of the videos where a sim dies and his or her family was there to see it? How did they react? It's curious.

    Here is a video of a sim dying and his wife is crying by simsvip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWZMUnExsA
    See this is what I don't understand..how come the Sims cries in this when their husband dies, but it didn't in the livestream? A stronger relationship?

    The fact that it took grim so freakin' long to reap the sim made me tap my foot like a sim in TS3...
    Seriously, Grim, I know your job has crappy hours and no one really likes you coming and taking their loved ones... but jeez! Get on with it already! What are you surfing on your tablet anyway?

    Just reminds me how much I love ghosts... :[
  • oXseashellXooXseashellXo Posts: 678 Member
    In TS3 Sims almost overreacted to fire. It was really difficult to get them to stop screaming and to attempt to extinguish the flames. Then they would only extinguish them for a short time before returning to panicking. This all while waiting for the firemen to arrive. I think that for TS4 the developers tried to make the reaction less intense. So, that your Sim could extinguish it or run away (without having the action cancelled to continue panicking about the fire). I think that they didn't find the nice place in the middle, where the Sim reacts, but can also rise to the occasion (or run away).

    I don't know why the Sims didn't react to the death at all. I understand not being sad about a stranger's death, but they should have reacted to a death on the lot. If someone died in my kitchen I would be really upset, even if I didn't know him or her. A child should definitely be freaked out. It was strange that Sims reacted to the urn, but not to the act of death. I would think that the act of death would be more intense than the memory of a death you didn't care about in the first place.

    These two things by themselves, are not important enough to me to affect my decision to purchase the game. They are just kind of unnatural. I think that emotions in the game are a lot more compartmentalized than simmers hoped. In some situations, emotions may work really well. In other situations, they might leave game play lacking. I don't think that "emotions" in the game can be viewed as a whole, but instead as separate things in different situations. These would be situations where emotions are lacking. Hopefully, it's not representative of the rest of the game.
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