I'm a "new member" just because I don't post much,but ive been around since the last parts of the sims 2. I don't see why a group punishment is fair,but maybe they should start IP banning.
I haven't read the whole thread but don't you think the easiest way to contain the situation is to simply ignore the troll?
Trolls tend to be sad little bored people who love to upset a community and most importantly be talked about!
If everyone that came across a troll post and all they did was report and move on there would be no reason for the troll to keep posting.
They want to upset you, they want to cause a ruckus and they want to be talked about. If you don't fuel a fire it dies out.
Unfortunately this really is not something that can simply be ignored. Something needs to be done to ensure what happened last night and the nights before can be dealt with in a much quicker manner.
We're not talking about somebody whose just coming here spamming the forums with nonsense or abuse; we're talking about somebody who thinks it is funny to spam the forum with p.ornographic images of Sonic and Mario. When steps were initially taken to restrict new members from posting images and links all this person did was pretend to be a normal civilised person until they were given enough points to become a member. Then the spamming began all over again.
Naturally, with the new system their points plummeted very quickly and they lost the ability to post the pictures again. So they just changed their avatar to another p.ornographic. Even when the posts were "hidden" you could STILL see the avatar.
Like I said yesterday; I don't think outright restricting new members is the answer either. If we do that then this community is going to be not only unwelcoming to new people but it is also going to be downright cliquey and I for one do not want that. IMHO what needs to happen is that new members should be able to post (but perhaps not be able to display avatars or share links / pictures until they become a member) but if their points go to say, -50 ALL posting rights should be removed immediately.
If you're a normal, civilised person you're never going to hit -50 under normal circumstances but if you're a troll then no matter how long you pretend to be a "good" person those points will be completely obliterated in a matter of minutes. It's a way for us as a community to control the boards ourselves while hopefully not making anybody new feel unwelcome here.
Hey! In case you are referring to spam alerts when flagging, these will only be triggered if you report the same post more than 2 or three times, and the block is for 3 minutes.
The spam block shouldn't be trigger if you are spamming differnt posts. But if u did get a spam block for this please let me know. But also there should be no other penalty then having to wait
Also as I understand it the new forum is designed to remove/ bury post when there is a high number of flags - as unsavory as it may be flaging is crucial so I hope no one is discouraged doing so when it's clearly necessary
Hey! In case you are referring to spam alerts when flagging, these will only be triggered if you report the same post more than 2 or three times, and the block is for 3 minutes.
The spam block shouldn't be trigger if you are spamming differnt posts. But if u did get a spam block for this please let me know. But also there should be no other penalty then having to wait
Also as I understand it the new forum is designed to remove/ bury post when there is a high number of flags - as unsavory as it may be flaging is crucial so I hope no one is discouraged doing so when it's clearly necessary
I had qued up several posts at once in tabs and was on my 3rd yet separate flag when I encountered the warning. Waited a few minutes and flagged. From there I only flagged 3 at a time with the note that the "user was using plumbob for their avi", with a wait of 2 minutes between flags.
.... for any who might worry, I'm not the flag happy sort I only flag if absolutely needed, if I don't like or disagree with a comment I'll say so or wander off to read something else
We're not talking about somebody whose just coming here spamming the forums with nonsense or abuse; we're talking about somebody who thinks it is funny to spam the forum with p.ornographic images of Sonic and Mario.
It doesn't matter what is posted. The point is no matter what is posted....report an move on. The troll's ultimate goal is to inflame, upset and cause a stir. If you don't respond in any way but to report the post the troll has nothing to feed on. When someone posts about how outraged they are it's exactly what the troll is looking for.
This morning there a few threads talking about how to control the situation. These in themselves are just what the troll is looking for...to be talked about.
"People really love to explore 'failure states. In fact, the failure states are really much more interesting than the success states." ~ Will Wright
Hey! In case you are referring to spam alerts when flagging, these will only be triggered if you report the same post more than 2 or three times, and the block is for 3 minutes.
The spam block shouldn't be trigger if you are spamming differnt posts. But if u did get a spam block for this please let me know. But also there should be no other penalty then having to wait
Also as I understand it the new forum is designed to remove/ bury post when there is a high number of flags - as unsavory as it may be flaging is crucial so I hope no one is discouraged doing so when it's clearly necessary
Its encouraged for the people breaking the rules but most of us are getting flagged because the other person can't take our opinion responses.
I haven't read the whole thread but don't you think the easiest way to contain the situation is to simply ignore the troll?
Trolls tend to be sad little bored people who love to upset a community and most importantly be talked about!
If everyone that came across a troll post and all they did was report and move on there would be no reason for the troll to keep posting.
They want to upset you, they want to cause a ruckus and they want to be talked about. If you don't fuel a fire it dies out.
Unfortunately this really is not something that can simply be ignored. Something needs to be done to ensure what happened last night and the nights before can be dealt with in a much quicker manner.
We're not talking about somebody whose just coming here spamming the forums with nonsense or abuse; we're talking about somebody who thinks it is funny to spam the forum with p.ornographic images of Sonic and Mario. When steps were initially taken to restrict new members from posting images and links all this person did was pretend to be a normal civilised person until they were given enough points to become a member. Then the spamming began all over again.
Naturally, with the new system their points plummeted very quickly and they lost the ability to post the pictures again. So they just changed their avatar to another p.ornographic. Even when the posts were "hidden" you could STILL see the avatar.
Like I said yesterday; I don't think outright restricting new members is the answer either. If we do that then this community is going to be not only unwelcoming to new people but it is also going to be downright cliquey and I for one do not want that. IMHO what needs to happen is that new members should be able to post (but perhaps not be able to display avatars or share links / pictures until they become a member) but if their points go to say, -50 ALL posting rights should be removed immediately.
If you're a normal, civilised person you're never going to hit -50 under normal circumstances but if you're a troll then no matter how long you pretend to be a "good" person those points will be completely obliterated in a matter of minutes. It's a way for us as a community to control the boards ourselves while hopefully not making anybody new feel unwelcome here.
It amazes me that some folks are so quick to restrict the rights and privileges of those people they believe are below their station. The issue should not be ignored, but the trolls can be with the click of an ignore button. Ignore buttons ignore the poster not the post so even the avatar will not be seen.
@REDRED123 said: I'm a "new member" just because I don't post much,but ive been around since the last parts of the sims 2. I don't see why a group punishment is fair,but maybe they should start IP banning.
This applies to me too... I agree in the IP banning as well, that would probably keep the trolls at bay.
I haven't read the whole thread but don't you think the easiest way to contain the situation is to simply ignore the troll?
Trolls tend to be sad little bored people who love to upset a community and most importantly be talked about!
If everyone that came across a troll post and all they did was report and move on there would be no reason for the troll to keep posting.
They want to upset you, they want to cause a ruckus and they want to be talked about. If you don't fuel a fire it dies out.
That seemed to happen today my thread got trolled everybody just ignored it and reported it dissapeared very quickly "do not respond just report it does work"
I had qued up several posts at once in tabs and was on my 3rd yet separate flag when I encountered the warning. Waited a few minutes and flagged. From there I only flagged 3 at a time with the note that the "user was using plumbob for their avi", with a wait of 2 minutes between flags.
thanks @Mmdrgntobldrgn the many tabs may be triggering the block.
Its encouraged for the people breaking the rules but most of us are getting flagged because the other person can't take our opinion responses.
@pepperjax1230 i agree flagging should only be used to report when forum rules are broken not because of difference of opinion, and i hope there is a way to resolve this
That seemed to happen today my thread got trolled everybody just ignored it and reported it dissapeared very quickly "do not respond just report it does work"
They have an agenda and it if doesn't work the air gets let out of their balloon pretty fast.
I found this image while clicking around.
"People really love to explore 'failure states. In fact, the failure states are really much more interesting than the success states." ~ Will Wright
@REDRED123 said:<br />
I'm a "new member" just because I don't post much,but ive been around since the last parts of the sims 2. I don't see why a group punishment is fair,but maybe they should start IP banning.<br />
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This applies to me too... I agree in the IP banning as well, that would probably keep the trolls at bay.
According to your Profile you're a New Member period, starting August 12th. I also find the fact that your role is General to also be suspect, as our most recent troll had the same role. You'll forgive me for being a wee bit suspicious, did you participate in the old forums? If so what was your username?
@REDRED123 said:<br />
I'm a "new member" just because I don't post much,but ive been around since the last parts of the sims 2. I don't see why a group punishment is fair,but maybe they should start IP banning.<br />
<br />
This applies to me too... I agree in the IP banning as well, that would probably keep the trolls at bay.
According to your Profile you're a New Member period, starting August 12th. I also find the fact that your role is General to also be suspect, as our most recent troll had the same role. You'll forgive me for being a wee bit suspicious, did you participate in the old forums? If so what was your username?
Guess I didn't figure out how to post pictures yet.
And while I'm on a learning curve here...I've got to ask....and maybe I'm being a complete idiot...how do you edit a post?
Hover your cursor over the top right-hand corner of your post and you will see a little gear icon. Click it to edit.
(And don't think of yourself as an idiot. It's kind of hidden. )
Thanks so much. I've got win 8...I should have learned the art of hovering.
No problem. I also found the easiest way to post pics is to use the little icon that looks like a folded piece of paper. (It's in the row of icons right across the top of your message box while you're typing.)
@REDRED123 said:<br />
I'm a "new member" just because I don't post much,but ive been around since the last parts of the sims 2. I don't see why a group punishment is fair,but maybe they should start IP banning.<br />
<br />
This applies to me too... I agree in the IP banning as well, that would probably keep the trolls at bay.
According to your Profile you're a New Member period, starting August 12th. I also find the fact that your role is General to also be suspect, as our most recent troll had the same role. You'll forgive me for being a wee bit suspicious, did you participate in the old forums? If so what was your username?
Trolling has been awful - but many come to the forum for the first time to post topics seeking help with glitches or other particular in-game problems ('Where do I find..?'). It'd be a shame to penalise them.
According to your Profile you're a New Member period, starting August 12th. I also find the fact that your role is General to also be suspect, as our most recent troll had the same role. You'll forgive me for being a wee bit suspicious, did you participate in the old forums? If so what was your username?
I did. My username was Anmanda. Signed up when TS3's site was launched in 2009. I've never been really active in the forums though, and will not be on here either. I just had a technical question I wanted to ask on here, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to sign up at all. And since I only was about to make 1 post I just made a new account. Sorry to hear about trolling problems, but I still don't think new members should be excluded. I believe it'd be better to find an effective way of banning the trolls.
Edit: And I have no clue how you get the General role, I just used the regular Sign Up button when I signed up. Edit 2: Now I realize why my first post didn't make sense as well since the member I quoted didn't have the same type of account as I do. Still, if I had used my old account to post I'd still have been considered a new member since I have very few posts on that account as well~
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An ignore button would work best. You do not like the individual, click ignore and never have to hear from them again.
Unfortunately this really is not something that can simply be ignored. Something needs to be done to ensure what happened last night and the nights before can be dealt with in a much quicker manner.
We're not talking about somebody whose just coming here spamming the forums with nonsense or abuse; we're talking about somebody who thinks it is funny to spam the forum with p.ornographic images of Sonic and Mario. When steps were initially taken to restrict new members from posting images and links all this person did was pretend to be a normal civilised person until they were given enough points to become a member. Then the spamming began all over again.
Naturally, with the new system their points plummeted very quickly and they lost the ability to post the pictures again. So they just changed their avatar to another p.ornographic. Even when the posts were "hidden" you could STILL see the avatar.
Like I said yesterday; I don't think outright restricting new members is the answer either. If we do that then this community is going to be not only unwelcoming to new people but it is also going to be downright cliquey and I for one do not want that. IMHO what needs to happen is that new members should be able to post (but perhaps not be able to display avatars or share links / pictures until they become a member) but if their points go to say, -50 ALL posting rights should be removed immediately.
If you're a normal, civilised person you're never going to hit -50 under normal circumstances but if you're a troll then no matter how long you pretend to be a "good" person those points will be completely obliterated in a matter of minutes. It's a way for us as a community to control the boards ourselves while hopefully not making anybody new feel unwelcome here.
Hey! In case you are referring to spam alerts when flagging, these will only be triggered if you report the same post more than 2 or three times, and the block is for 3 minutes.
The spam block shouldn't be trigger if you are spamming differnt posts. But if u did get a spam block for this please let me know. But also there should be no other penalty then having to wait
Also as I understand it the new forum is designed to remove/ bury post when there is a high number of flags - as unsavory as it may be flaging is crucial so I hope no one is discouraged doing so when it's clearly necessary
I had qued up several posts at once in tabs and was on my 3rd yet separate flag when I encountered the warning. Waited a few minutes and flagged. From there I only flagged 3 at a time with the note that the "user was using plumbob for their avi", with a wait of 2 minutes between flags.
.... for any who might worry, I'm not the flag happy sort I only flag if absolutely needed, if I don't like or disagree with a comment I'll say so or wander off to read something else
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It doesn't matter what is posted. The point is no matter what is posted....report an move on. The troll's ultimate goal is to inflame, upset and cause a stir. If you don't respond in any way but to report the post the troll has nothing to feed on. When someone posts about how outraged they are it's exactly what the troll is looking for.
This morning there a few threads talking about how to control the situation. These in themselves are just what the troll is looking for...to be talked about.
It amazes me that some folks are so quick to restrict the rights and privileges of those people they believe are below their station. The issue should not be ignored, but the trolls can be with the click of an ignore button. Ignore buttons ignore the poster not the post so even the avatar will not be seen.
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Thank you @MDianaSanders for halloween-fying Golluma
I'm a "new member" just because I don't post much,but ive been around since the last parts of the sims 2. I don't see why a group punishment is fair,but maybe they should start IP banning.
This applies to me too... I agree in the IP banning as well, that would probably keep the trolls at bay.
That seemed to happen today my thread got trolled everybody just ignored it and reported it dissapeared very quickly "do not respond just report it does work"
It might ease the abuse.
@pepperjax1230 i agree flagging should only be used to report when forum rules are broken not because of difference of opinion, and i hope there is a way to resolve this
They have an agenda and it if doesn't work the air gets let out of their balloon pretty fast.
I found this image while clicking around.
According to your Profile you're a New Member period, starting August 12th. I also find the fact that your role is General to also be suspect, as our most recent troll had the same role. You'll forgive me for being a wee bit suspicious, did you participate in the old forums? If so what was your username?
And while I'm on a learning curve here...I've got to ask....and maybe I'm being a complete idiot...how do you edit a post?
Hover your cursor over your post, and in the top right-hand corner you will see a little gear icon. Click it to edit.
(And don't think of yourself as an idiot. It's kind of hidden.
complete forum tutorial
Thank you @MDianaSanders for halloween-fying Golluma
Thanks so much. I've got win 8...I should have learned the art of hovering.
No problem.
I would like to know that as well.
According to your Profile you're a New Member period, starting August 12th. I also find the fact that your role is General to also be suspect, as our most recent troll had the same role. You'll forgive me for being a wee bit suspicious, did you participate in the old forums? If so what was your username?
I did. My username was Anmanda. Signed up when TS3's site was launched in 2009. I've never been really active in the forums though, and will not be on here either. I just had a technical question I wanted to ask on here, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to sign up at all. And since I only was about to make 1 post I just made a new account. Sorry to hear about trolling problems, but I still don't think new members should be excluded. I believe it'd be better to find an effective way of banning the trolls.
Edit: And I have no clue how you get the General role, I just used the regular Sign Up button when I signed up.
Edit 2: Now I realize why my first post didn't make sense as well since the member I quoted didn't have the same type of account as I do. Still, if I had used my old account to post I'd still have been considered a new member since I have very few posts on that account as well~