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Community Lots Should Be Livable!

This way we could create a burger joint with an apartment above it. Or an alchemy shop that a wizard runs/owns and lives at. Or even a community park could be used for a hobo challenge more easily. This of course should go hand in hand with an OFB EP! :mrgreen: Or maybe they'll put all the OFB stuff in the base game!

There should be a third option for choosing what kind of lot it is.

Residential
Community
Community/Residential (Or whatever else they want to label it.)

Anyone else think this might be a good idea?

Along with being able to split up your household into the properties that you own and keep them all playable.

Like in this thread and my petition:

PETITION: Household Split Up Between Livable Properties!
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/673168.page

Multiple Lots:
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/682603.page
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Comments

  • OccultationOccultation Posts: 16
    edited January 2014
    Bump!

    I've literally just been googling around to see if this is possible. Even with the Late Night EP apartments and new debug items, this isn't possible.

    I wanted to make a community pub or "hang out" with a residential apartent above it... but it isnt possible :/
  • Damienf519Damienf519 Posts: 6,988 Member
    edited January 2014
    RockoutDarci,

    I really like the idea. It would certainly save a lot of space if we could do that. Maybe they could set it up so that the first floor would function as one lot, and floors above it would function as another lot. Only problem might be frame rate issues, since you would than end up having a lot of objects in one small area, in order to pull it off.
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    It is not something new actually, The sims 2 for handhelds and Console (mostly at StrangTown) featured several sims that not just did live at their work place as it was also a public area.

    Like :

    .Momma Hogg Saloon with her bedroom in the second floor - Sims2DS

    .Sijing Balani bedroom in Kine Diary - Sims2 PSP

    .Luthor Bigbucks room at Casino - Sims2 GBA

    .Mesa Art Gallery - Sims2 Console

    *In the PC version there was a Mod that alowed you to do that.
    TSM lots are

    .Residential(For the Hero)
    +Work(For the hero and the NPC)
    +Rabithole(for NPC only)
    +Community(For everyone else)

    Everything above inside an open shell.
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  • lpmartinlpmartin Posts: 163
    edited January 2014
    Yeah, this would be great!
  • XxHannelorexXXxHannelorexX Posts: 2,943 Member
    edited January 2014
    I love the idea :) Wish it would be implemented in the game.
  • ChimarkChimark Posts: 2,166 Member
    edited January 2014
    I agree. I wish that no only could we do residential / community but also different types of community. Like dive bar/casino type of classification.

    I found putting in a community lot and right next to it, I put in a tiny lot and zone it residential, and building a community lot form scratch and having my Sim live there will work OK, not great as there are some things you can't do but at least when you hit the "home" button for your Sim, s/he comes right back NEXT to the lot.
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    edited January 2014
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.

    More or less. If you wanted a grocery store or a pet shop you would have to buy a community lot instead.Then it would be two separated lots owned by the same sim.
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  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    edited January 2014
    v12creator wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.

    More or less. If you wanted a grocery store or a pet shop you would have to buy a community lot instead.Then it would be two separated lots owned by the same sim.

    OR, you could perfectly build one in your home lot, exactly like the OP suggests.

    I had a toy factory and a toy store on the second floor and my home on the first floor. And another family had a bakery on the first floor. I'm sure you could have a pet shop as well.
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    v12creator wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.

    More or less. If you wanted a grocery store or a pet shop you would have to buy a community lot instead.Then it would be two separated lots owned by the same sim.

    OR, you could perfectly build one in your home lot, exactly like the OP suggests.

    I had a toy factory and a toy store on the second floor and my home on the first floor. And another family had a bakery on the first floor. I'm sure you could have a pet shop as well.

    There are certain objects that are not alowed in Residential. Such as the magazine rack and clothing store objects.
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  • Sk8rblazeSk8rblaze Posts: 7,570 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.

    No it didn't.

    Recently, I wanted to make a family in TS2 that owned a restaurant where the parents owned a diner with their apartment on the top floor. And I wanted their kids to help out with the diner too. Unfortunately, I could barely do what I imagined.

    I couldn't have my Sims live on the same lot as the restaurant. If I tried to open an at home business, I couldn't get the functionality of the restaurant because they restricted certain items to community lots only. I tried using cheats, and it didn't work - I had to actually set it as a community lot from the neighborhood view.

    I'd rather be able to really live on the same lot as a shop, rather than just place a bed down on the lot and call it "home", with the real house on another lot. If both kids/teens could help out with things such as cleaning, etc. that would be great too.

    One thing I really like that TS4 is offering is the ability to control the height of the walls, that way I can make the apartment level more higher up rather than directly on top of the restaurant.
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    edited January 2014
    Sk8rblaze wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.

    No it didn't.

    Yes, it did.

    A few business, like a restaurant, were problamatic, but you could have several sorts of shops, night clubs, arcades, a bakery and etc... They could expand that in TS4 to incluse those few we previously could not have.
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    Sk8rblaze wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.

    No it didn't.

    Yes, it did.

    A few business, like a restaurant, were problamatic, but you could have several sorts of shops, night clubs, arcades, a bakery and etc... They could expand that in TS4 to incluse those few we previously could not have.



    You could make :

    - A bazar (OFB regular shop)
    - A Bakery
    - An Arcade
    - A sport club
    - A park
    - A Disco / Dance club / Nighclub / Bar
    - "Public" Pool

    You could not make

    - A grocery Store
    - Restaurant
    - Clothing Store
    - Magazine/ Videogame store
    - Car sales (Yes)


    Since TS2 did not alowed you to visit Neighbors (-In the PC version) i dont take it in consideration. TS2 has a good start point but i would prefer to choose SimsMedieval instead wich makes the combo in a fine way.
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  • Sk8rblazeSk8rblaze Posts: 7,570 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    Sk8rblaze wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    TS2 Open For Business allowed this.

    No it didn't.

    Yes, it did.

    A few business, like a restaurant, were problamatic, but you could have several sorts of shops, night clubs, arcades, a bakery and etc... They could expand that in TS4 to incluse those few we previously could not have.

    OP is asking to be able to take a community lot and live on it as a residential lot, with the complete functionality of a community lot. I don't know when you last played TS2, but you cannot do that in it.
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    edited January 2014
    Sk8rblaze wrote:
    OP is asking to be able to take a community lot and live on it as a residential lot, with the complete functionality of a community lot. I don't know when you last played TS2, but you cannot do that in it.

    Well, you are dead wrong. Go play and do it. You can have a fully functional toy store, with a mini factory even, and a fully functional house. In fact, the fellow poster above listed several kinds of business you can own and run in a fully funtional house.

    I myself had a few.
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    Sk8rblaze wrote:
    OP is asking to be able to take a community lot and live on it as a residential lot, with the complete functionality of a community lot. I don't know when you last played TS2, but you cannot do that in it.

    Well, you are dead wrong. Go play and do it. You can have a fully functional toy store, with a mini factory even, and a fully functional house. In fact, the fellow poster above listed several kinds of business you can own and run in a fully funtional house.

    I myself had a few.

    Yikes, but for TS2 itself in the PC version it was not a community lot, it was a residential lot since you could not visit it with other family,As for a community lot itself it simply does not have the same playbility of a residential lot, it does not even have a mailbox to beguin with,i can see from where you are coming from, but that is too limited, the main community lot types are left out.

    To start with,You would need to hire several sims yourself to fullfill work slots that in a normal (Non bought) community lot would be automatically filled with NPCs, that is why i say that TSM system is better in this matter than TS2 OFB, altrough TS2 OFB is up to be taken in consideration for it own reasons.

    Living in a community lot would be like having your sim to live in TS3 Ambitions Fire-station without having a residential lot but having the fire-station itself asigned as the home instead,that would mean that you could live in a community lot without actually owning it, but by beign part of the workforce.
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  • KaitlynHortonKaitlynHorton Posts: 133 New Member
    edited January 2014
    I think this would be a cool idea and it doesn't sound difficult to do because in LN you could designate different areas to be public in an apartment so something similar could be done with this
  • Sk8rblazeSk8rblaze Posts: 7,570 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    Sk8rblaze wrote:
    OP is asking to be able to take a community lot and live on it as a residential lot, with the complete functionality of a community lot. I don't know when you last played TS2, but you cannot do that in it.

    Well, you are dead wrong. Go play and do it. You can have a fully functional toy store, with a mini factory even, and a fully functional house. In fact, the fellow poster above listed several kinds of business you can own and run in a fully funtional house.

    I myself had a few.

    Yes, SEVERAL businesses - not ALL of them. You keep bringing up toy stores, but I keep repeating I want a restaurant that can do this, which I've tried, and couldn't in TS2.

    Either way, who cares if it was or wasn't there in TS2, we're talking about TS4..
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    Well, in another thread wille i was talking over my idea of puting open-lot-careers and rabithole careers altogether, i used this screenshot that i took from ThesimMedieval.

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    You can see that not just it is part open career,part rabithole, as this is also a residential lot for both the Hero (Open lot room) and the NPC co-worker (Rabithole door). The major part of sims who visit the lot usually dont go into the residential area, unless they have something to deal with the local sim like a quest aor a businessm,this is a tavern ,that is - a bar/showhouse.

    It is a residence for the hero, a Rabithole-home/work for the NPC worker, and a community lot for everyone else.
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  • simmadness24simmadness24 Posts: 828 Member
    edited January 2014
    I wouldn't mind that at all, V12C, if they have to put in rabbit holes, it should look like that. I would love for the whole town to be livable. It would make for great stories.

    I've always wanted an open store front for sims and perhaps have a musician live above the town's coffee shop. He/She could go downstairs and make a few buck playing live music or even just a simple apartment above a shop. We might be able to see something like this in a future TS4 OFB. Crosses fingers.
  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    edited January 2014
    v12creator wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    Sk8rblaze wrote:
    OP is asking to be able to take a community lot and live on it as a residential lot, with the complete functionality of a community lot. I don't know when you last played TS2, but you cannot do that in it.

    Well, you are dead wrong. Go play and do it. You can have a fully functional toy store, with a mini factory even, and a fully functional house. In fact, the fellow poster above listed several kinds of business you can own and run in a fully funtional house.

    I myself had a few.

    Yikes, but for TS2 itself in the PC version it was not a community lot, it was a residential lot since you could not visit it with other family,As for a community lot itself it simply does not have the same playbility of a residential lot, it does not even have a mailbox to beguin with,i can see from where you are coming from, but that is too limited, the main community lot types are left out.

    To start with,You would need to hire several sims yourself to fullfill work slots that in a normal (Non bought) community lot would be automatically filled with NPCs, that is why i say that TSM system is better in this matter than TS2 OFB, altrough TS2 OFB is up to be taken in consideration for it own reasons.

    Living in a community lot would be like having your sim to live in TS3 Ambitions Fire-station without having a residential lot but having the fire-station itself asigned as the home instead,that would mean that you could live in a community lot without actually owning it, but by beign part of the workforce.

    Non-sense, written just in spite.

    The lot worked perfectly, with plenty of visitors, fulfilling the desire to "live above your shop".

    If you wish to proceed with pettiness, go on. The true point has been made.
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    -..-

    Nope,it wasnt.

    we are talking about "Comunity lots that you can live on" not "A shop in your garage at your home".

    Now back on topic.
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  • pguidapguida Posts: 7,481 Member
    edited January 2014
    v12creator wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    -..-

    Nope,it wasnt.

    we are talking about "Comunity lots that you can live on" not "A shop in your garage at your home".

    Now back on topic.

    Still wrong, still petty.

    I'm sorry you're a such an unskilled builder all you could do were garage shops.

    I had no trouble making several huge, fully-fledged shops which still has a housing unit.

    Deal with that.


    Perhaps you can make your silly argument on zoning. They weren't zoned as community lots on the map. But hanging on those kind of details is what makes you petty in the first place. You could definitely a fully working home/ shop, with several variations.

    True, not restaurants and a few others. But the Sims 4 in 2014 may be able to have features from an expansion released many years ago, contrary to your twisted rhetoric, delivered the better part of that promise.


    Feel free to go on being petty and trying to make big arguments out of the smallest things.
  • v12creatorv12creator Posts: 3,626 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    Boring

    I made full stores,jerk,lots of all types i played the game to the limit and i am still playing it.

    The entire example is still too limited for what the OP is asking for, that is why i sugested a better working model for this,but i guess your self-fullness does not allows your brain to understand the idea.

    I never said they could not implement it in TS4 , i just said it didnt work like that in TS2because of those "little details" that you insist to ignore and im still saying and i will keep saying.
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  • Sk8rblazeSk8rblaze Posts: 7,570 Member
    edited January 2014
    pguida wrote:
    v12creator wrote:
    pguida wrote:
    -..-

    Nope,it wasnt.

    we are talking about "Comunity lots that you can live on" not "A shop in your garage at your home".

    Now back on topic.

    Still wrong, still petty.

    I'm sorry you're a such an unskilled builder all you could do were garage shops.

    I had no trouble making several huge, fully-fledged shops which still has a housing unit.

    Deal with that.


    Perhaps you can make your silly argument on zoning. They weren't zoned as community lots on the map. But hanging on those kind of details is what makes you petty in the first place. You could definitely a fully working home/ shop, with several variations.

    True, not restaurants and a few others. But the Sims 4 in 2014 may be able to have features from an expansion released many years ago, contrary to your twisted rhetoric, delivered the better part of that promise.


    Feel free to go on being petty and trying to make big arguments out of the smallest things.

    It's not about being able to click on a lot and see that it's a community lot, but the fact that the game restricted certain items to community lots only and if you chose to live on the same lot as a shop, content was locked and inaccessible even through cheats.It was a feature lacking in TS2, which is why we are asking for it, should they choose to remake Open for Business. That's it. No need to get all angry.

    And geez, is petty the word of the day or something?

    #boutdatpettylyfe :mrgreen:
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