I love this set as a decorative item, but that's all. I have buyed this, but I have found, this is fake glasshouse.
EA, please, fix it, this is first set which I was really excited about - and this set don't work as should it.
I agree with this.
What I find difficult to understand is this:
The Sims 2 Seasons included a glasshouse of similar structure, except that one had wall pieces AND roof pieces. (The shape of the TS3 version is far superior, though.)
The Sims Seasons also included the weather.
Why, when there is already a precedent of it being able to work, and work together WELL, did we get as far as having a pricey greenhouse set not only NOT included in the game and sold as additional expensive content but also then not functioning in a way that actually connects it to the game?
How, when it was timed to coincide with, and by nature complement and CAPITALISE on the release of Seasons, does it not work with it?
There's a huge lesson to be learned here, especially since once again the rising goodwill gets spoiled by another bungle.
The set looks great. But it's only cosmetic. Once again functionality that we used to enjoy was ignored.
Here's a thought: if you're going to sell content separately that has a precedent of being included, shouldn't you make sure you do more than you did before to justify the extra cost, and not less?
I totally agree with you MrHawk. To add to my disappointment, yes I feel duped, I paid for a planter that came with Supernatural. I don't know how else should I feel about this.
Nothing to see. I don't even care about the forums.
I totally agree with you MrHawk. To add to my disappointment, yes I feel duped, I paid for a planter that came with Supernatural. I don't know how else should I feel about this.
I'm ok with the planter since at least it's a different version. I'm all for them doing this especially if it's got the potential to get us different versions of trampolines, professional bars and the like.
What I'm not ok with is them doing a much prettier but much lazier version of pre-existing content and charging much more for it. It's just wrong, no matter how you look at it.
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I was so hyped for this one. Received it via gift. It looks fantastic! I'm determined to try to enjoy it in spite of my disappointment.
I never have bought anything from the store other then my first initial free points I got when I bought the original game. I also was quite disappointed to find out about the flaws with this. I never use cheats so I hate that to plant inside I have to use them or use the planter pots which you can't plant trees in. Of course I could leave one panel off but then zombies will get in and my sims would be affected by the weather. However, I do love the new workbench thing. It's made my new gardening sims be able to get perfect plants in a matter of a few days instead of weeks. I also love the little dancing flower. It gives my broke sims fun for a cheap price and throws fertilizer at me very often.
It looked the same to me. I compared the pkanters, same leaf design, same shape.
Well it's not here or there I guess. New Years resolution, no more sets for me. I will pick and choose when they come available. This has hurt my feelings.
Nothing to see. I don't even care about the forums.
I am also very disappointed in this FAKE greenhouse. Yeah, it LOOKS nice, but what's the point if it doesn't work as it should, without having to do extensive modifying and using cheats? Sorry, but EA, you dropped the ball on this one big time. As has been stated, Sims 2 had WORKING greenhouse walls & roofs, & even doors, that were INCLUDED in the SEASONS EP, (not made into extra paid content), that did not require modifying & using cheats to be functional. Why give us a new (Seasons) venue that does not function correctly with (Seasons) when that's what it's meant for, huh? Why was this not properly TESTED to make sure it would keep out rain/snow BEFORE you put it out & charged (extra) money for it?
And another thing...we can already buy planters to have plants indoors, so no, I do not find this an acceptable work-around for this expensive seasons set. If that's all I wanted, I would build a regular room with floor to ceiling windows & stick planters everywhere! No, that's not exactly a greenhouse, but neither is this EXPENSIVE DECORATION SET that won't function properly. Yes, I'm disappointed, but no, I won't be spending any money for this fake greenhouse. :x
noun, plural green·hous·es [-hou-ziz] Show IPA.
a building, room, or area, usually chiefly of glass, in which the temperature is maintained within a desired range, used for cultivating tender plants or growing plants out of season.
With that..I must say when my fiance bought this and other sets last night..I was excited..he spent almost 100.00 dollars and then this.
This isn't a greenhouse this is a rip off..as you can see from the definition of a green house. I am was so happy with seasons and then this.
I don't want to add potted plants and seriously..doing that isn't a greenhouse and we could of done that without paying crazy money for a FAKE greenhouse.
Since this greenhouse does not work and many people will not buy it because...well, it doesn't work (including myself, even though I just bought a large bundle so I could gift it to people as well)...can you please make the premium content and all the pieces that DO work, like the windows, available for individual purchase now, rather than wait.
From experience, fixes are slow in coming and I would like to spend my money on the things I really want, like the gardening bit. That's the only win-win.
And also, EA really should not be dependent on Mods and CC picking up the slack. One day someone is going to decide that they can create a better game and there will be enough tech out there for it to be easily done.
2. you cant plant anything inside without using the moveobjects cheat. Minor issue, but still a concern.
I was curious about this and tried buydebug. It allowed me to place plants inside and I didn't need the MOO cheat. I'm not sure how it's going to work after that because fall came and my plants went dormant.....which I'm a little upset about. I bought the greenhouse set and built one on my lot so my witch/alchemist could harvest plants all year around.
It would also have been nice to have the framework for the sprinkler system separate from the seed station. My Sim has an obsession with the garden sprinklers and I thought the ceiling sprinklers would be a workaround for that. I don't need several seed stations in my greenhouse, just several sprinklers.
Does anyone know what all you can put in the compost bin?
"People really love to explore 'failure states. In fact, the failure states are really much more interesting than the success states." ~ Will Wright
EA seems to have a lot of "undocumented features" lately. I pre-ordered Supernatural and after all the bugs I experienced with that EP I decided to wait to purchase Seasons until I another patch has been released and all the bugs I am currently experiencing go away. I was extremely disappointed when I was watching a live broadcast and they said no Greenhouses because of the planters in Supernatural. I guess they were right, we don't get Greenhouses(even if we pay for them). I was going to buy this set and it was going to be the first of many purchases. I'm sorry that so many people purchased this venue and it's not working as intended, I hope this gets resolved for you quickly. EA does not seem to have Customer Service set as a high priority, I guess the more people that just click "buy" on the first day the faster they churn out items we should get in EPs or SPs. Cash cow says moo.
It's all about the money not the game.I would go into detail but many still think EA can walk on water and think they do a proper test of there products.Happy Holidays
Question is will the lot be updated in the store file in the near future?
We're looking into a couple of different options at the moment. I'll keep you updated as soon as I hear something definitive.
Thanks for all your efforts in designing this gorgeous venue and the rapid response to the roof problem. I hope you DO upload your version - let us know!
I think I had luck with using Murano's glass floors (will get it really raining hard to see for sure), but also there is Inge's glass floors to use so you can add them just above the area that is letting the snow/rain in.
I'm going to be just a little bit cheeky and suggest an invisible or glass floor tile as a free download. Please.
I went through this thread looking to see if anyone else suggested this and found these posts. I would SO love it if you gave us a glass tile, even if it wasnt free (free is nice...but ) It would solve this problem and if you put it with other glass building objects I think everyone would go crazy for them. Please consider at least just a glass floor/ceiling tile? Thank you!!!
Thank you for the set! It looks beautiful. And thanks for the 'quick fix'.
I do hope you can make it work like a real one soon. Maybe next time test the items on a computer that has all the games installed to see how it works? :P
I wished the roof was under the roof category...coded as a roof....so maybe then it would work as a roof....
But wishes are for fishes, and I can't seem to grow gills....
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A seasons complimented venue that wasn't play tested for Seasons is beyond sloppy team, I'm sorry but it is.
Theres alot of issues that happen from glitches, etc and that's understandable.
Not play testing a lot before SELLING it in the store is truley unacceptable. As simmers who use the exchange they must all take the time to play test before uploading and there's no money involved so this makes the team look very sloppy and I understand why everyone is buggin about it.
it's not that it's an easy fix, or that's its not a critical failure... it shows a lack of effort from the team in products being sold in the store.
There are other issues with indoor gardening, beyond the trouble with the roofs.
1. Leaving the floor bare gives you a negative moodlet. (Unfinished) Not a big deal, but kinda annoying.
2. you cant plant anything inside without using the moveobjects cheat. Minor issue, but still a concern.
3. Not sure if this is just my game, but any plants I plant during winter end up dormant. Anything planted before winter, however, is fine.
1: Use planters. I notice they kindly included one in the set, so you don't have to own Supernatural to get them anymore.
2: Use planters!
3: That's not good. I guess it's just hard for little plants to get started when it's cold. ^_^
How foolish of me! Of course! Using planters solves everything! Because, of course, you can plant everything in them, even trees! (/sarcasm)
I can deal with having to use cheats, I've done it before... I can even handle using floor tiles in my greenhouse, I'll just find come sort of CAStable style that makes it look like ground. Thankfully, the sprinklers on the Gardening Station don't cause puddles everywhere.
The issue is, why should I have to? Why bring out content that relies on cheats to work?
Well, actually, I know the answer to that one. EA doesn't care if it works, just that it sells, so taking something the entire community has been clambering for and releasing an expensive, albeit non-functional, version is a great way to line their pockets, especially if they don't tell people that the only way to make it function is through cheating and manipulation of the building features.
Furthermore, the workaround posted here isn't in any way a fix. Yes, it might get that one building to work out, but what if you wanted to build a little greenhouse on your own home lot, without attaching it to the house? In order for it to work, we are forced to have part of the structure covered with a regular roof... Sorry, but... what? How is that an acceptable fix, in any way?
However, I would like to take the opportunity to thank SimGuruCopeland for his efforts in trying to right this. I'm sure the support team aren't the ones making these decisions, and I feel sorry for all the extra work they have to put in because of these issues.
What I would like to know .. why hasn't this Greenhouse been recalled till it's fixed? Not everyone reads the forums before purchasing. At least sell the items that do work individually but to keep the whole venue up for sale when it's broken is in my opinion .. dishonest.
I almost purchased this set before reading the posts. I'm so glad I did. Even if they come up with a way that fixes a roof .. such as adding glass tiles (which to me is a lazy and sloppy fix) it still to me is not worth the price. For me there would need to be a lot more done besides weatherizing it so I would want to purchase this venue.
In the future I will not be buying anything on the day it comes out, instead I will be waiting for reviews to see if it's exactly how it's advertised.
What I would like to know .. why hasn't this Greenhouse been recalled till it's fixed? Not everyone reads the forums before purchasing. At least sell the items that do work individually but to keep the whole venue up for sale when it's broken is in my opinion .. dishonest. I almost purchased this set before reading the posts.
It would also have been nice to have the framework for the sprinkler system separate from the seed station. My Sim has an obsession with the garden sprinklers and I thought the ceiling sprinklers would be a workaround for that. I don't need several seed stations in my greenhouse, just several sprinklers.
This is my feeling as well. I kinda just wanted Ceiling Sprinklers--not a total complex machine. Just Sprinklers that can spray water down from above, for everything from gardening to indoor fires to water parks. So I was a bit cresftallen to see the PC item.
Since this greenhouse does not work and many people will not buy it because...well, it doesn't work...can you please make the premium content and all the pieces that DO work, like the windows, available for individual purchase now, rather than wait.
From experience, fixes are slow in coming and I would like to spend my money on the things I really want, like the gardening bit. That's the only win-win.
And also, EA really should not be dependent on Mods and CC picking up the slack. One day someone is going to decide that they can create a better game and there will be enough tech out there for it to be easily done.
Since this greenhouse does not work and many people will not buy it because...well, it doesn't work (including myself, even though I just bought a large bundle so I could gift it to people as well)...can you please make the premium content and all the pieces that DO work, like the windows, available for individual purchase now, rather than wait.
From experience, fixes are slow in coming and I would like to spend my money on the things I really want, like the gardening bit. That's the only win-win.
And also, EA really should not be dependent on Mods and CC picking up the slack. One day someone is going to decide that they can create a better game and there will be enough tech out there for it to be easily done.
I am with you on this all the way sister!! I feel you.
Further, I was not complaining about the planters being the same as the Supernatural one only I was disgusted with myself buying the whole set. I do wish they would release the PC and individual pieces faster, in the future that is what I will do, buy the parts I want. The sprinkler system is very good and I am using the indoor planters in the basement of my sim's home. It is called the gardening room.
This experience has taught me a lesson about buying so fast and whole sets. That is not happening next year. I meant it about having that New Year's resolution.
Nothing to see. I don't even care about the forums.
@SimGuruCopeland: I notice you have a full kitchen with stove in your photos. I thought we couldn't put stoves or cook with them on Community Lots without mods.
As someone who relies on mods to do this...can you explain how you did that or is your lot zoned as residential? Or is this something only available to developers?
This is functionality we really need in the game without relying on modders for those of us who like to have apartments over businesses in the game or to simulate restaurants.
I can't wait to get this set by the way after I get Seasons for Christmas. Y'all have really outdone yourselves lately!
You could also place a stove from your home lot into the Family Inventory then go to the community lot and use cheats to Edit in Buy Mode. Then you can place the stove on the community lot from your Family Inventory. It's that simple.
Nik24X7 - Placing a stove on a community lot is pretty simple to do. She was referring to it's function instead of it just sitting there as a decorative piece. I'm sure she was just hoping for an OFB expansion in the future. I know I am
Nik24X7 - Placing a stove on a community lot is pretty simple to do. She was referring to it's function instead of it just sitting there as a decorative piece. I'm sure she was just hoping for an OFB expansion in the future. I know I am
OFB-ish function would complete my Sim experience Think of all that we could do with that.... (but I digress... I just had to chime in and agree with you )
I love this set as a decorative item, but that's all. I have buyed this, but I have found, this is fake glasshouse.
EA, please, fix it, this is first set which I was really excited about - and this set don't work as should it.
I agree with this.
What I find difficult to understand is this:
The Sims 2 Seasons included a glasshouse of similar structure, except that one had wall pieces AND roof pieces. (The shape of the TS3 version is far superior, though.)
The Sims Seasons also included the weather.
Why, when there is already a precedent of it being able to work, and work together WELL, did we get as far as having a pricey greenhouse set not only NOT included in the game and sold as additional expensive content but also then not functioning in a way that actually connects it to the game?
How, when it was timed to coincide with, and by nature complement and CAPITALISE on the release of Seasons, does it not work with it?
There's a huge lesson to be learned here, especially since once again the rising goodwill gets spoiled by another bungle.
The set looks great. But it's only cosmetic. Once again functionality that we used to enjoy was ignored.
Here's a thought: if you're going to sell content separately that has a precedent of being included, shouldn't you make sure you do more than you did before to justify the extra cost, and not less?
Think about it:
The greenhouse in the Sims 2 were effectively a glorified version of the regular wall and roof tools, to make it function (or any room function), you used the sunlamps. The glass roof acted as a normal roof.
The Glass roof objects here, are more like the mansard roof objects from Apartment Life and Mansions & Gardens, as in, individual objects. They too also let the elements in (but since they had to be built on floor tiles, it didn't really matter). Instead of sunlamps, planters are used instead, provided in this lot and Supernatural (trees also couldn't be placed in TS2 greenhouses, and if you did build the greenhouse around them, they would still go dormant in winter).
Nik24X7 - Placing a stove on a community lot is pretty simple to do. She was referring to it's function instead of it just sitting there as a decorative piece. I'm sure she was just hoping for an OFB expansion in the future. I know I am
Me too! (Please note: This is not a rumor, hint, spoiler or anything of the sort.)
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it is NOT a green house !!
It is awkward ..
You gave us 6x3 square puzzle piece roof decoration.
This might look cool .. but it is not functional.
WHY can't you guys take a look at the Green House in Sims 2 and figure out how to make the Green House ROOF.
When I bought this .. I thought I purchased a functional Green House (Year round gardening).
So Disappointed .. And should I apply the Buyer Beware for all future items???
I agree with this.
What I find difficult to understand is this:
The Sims 2 Seasons included a glasshouse of similar structure, except that one had wall pieces AND roof pieces. (The shape of the TS3 version is far superior, though.)
The Sims Seasons also included the weather.
Why, when there is already a precedent of it being able to work, and work together WELL, did we get as far as having a pricey greenhouse set not only NOT included in the game and sold as additional expensive content but also then not functioning in a way that actually connects it to the game?
How, when it was timed to coincide with, and by nature complement and CAPITALISE on the release of Seasons, does it not work with it?
There's a huge lesson to be learned here, especially since once again the rising goodwill gets spoiled by another bungle.
The set looks great. But it's only cosmetic. Once again functionality that we used to enjoy was ignored.
Here's a thought: if you're going to sell content separately that has a precedent of being included, shouldn't you make sure you do more than you did before to justify the extra cost, and not less?
I'm ok with the planter since at least it's a different version. I'm all for them doing this especially if it's got the potential to get us different versions of trampolines, professional bars and the like.
What I'm not ok with is them doing a much prettier but much lazier version of pre-existing content and charging much more for it. It's just wrong, no matter how you look at it.
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I was so hyped for this one. Received it via gift. It looks fantastic! I'm determined to try to enjoy it in spite of my disappointment.
Well it's not here or there I guess. New Years resolution, no more sets for me. I will pick and choose when they come available. This has hurt my feelings.
And another thing...we can already buy planters to have plants indoors, so no, I do not find this an acceptable work-around for this expensive seasons set. If that's all I wanted, I would build a regular room with floor to ceiling windows & stick planters everywhere! No, that's not exactly a greenhouse, but neither is this EXPENSIVE DECORATION SET that won't function properly. Yes, I'm disappointed, but no, I won't be spending any money for this fake greenhouse. :x
green·house
[green-hous] Show IPA
noun, plural green·hous·es [-hou-ziz] Show IPA.
a building, room, or area, usually chiefly of glass, in which the temperature is maintained within a desired range, used for cultivating tender plants or growing plants out of season.
With that..I must say when my fiance bought this and other sets last night..I was excited..he spent almost 100.00 dollars and then this.
This isn't a greenhouse this is a rip off..as you can see from the definition of a green house. I am was so happy with seasons and then this.
I don't want to add potted plants and seriously..doing that isn't a greenhouse and we could of done that without paying crazy money for a FAKE greenhouse.
From experience, fixes are slow in coming and I would like to spend my money on the things I really want, like the gardening bit. That's the only win-win.
And also, EA really should not be dependent on Mods and CC picking up the slack. One day someone is going to decide that they can create a better game and there will be enough tech out there for it to be easily done.
I was curious about this and tried buydebug. It allowed me to place plants inside and I didn't need the MOO cheat. I'm not sure how it's going to work after that because fall came and my plants went dormant.....which I'm a little upset about. I bought the greenhouse set and built one on my lot so my witch/alchemist could harvest plants all year around.
It would also have been nice to have the framework for the sprinkler system separate from the seed station. My Sim has an obsession with the garden sprinklers and I thought the ceiling sprinklers would be a workaround for that. I don't need several seed stations in my greenhouse, just several sprinklers.
Does anyone know what all you can put in the compost bin?
Thanks for all your efforts in designing this gorgeous venue and the rapid response to the roof problem. I hope you DO upload your version - let us know!
I went through this thread looking to see if anyone else suggested this and found these posts. I would SO love it if you gave us a glass tile, even if it wasnt free (free is nice...but
I do hope you can make it work like a real one soon. Maybe next time test the items on a computer that has all the games installed to see how it works? :P
I wished the roof was under the roof category...coded as a roof....so maybe then it would work as a roof....
But wishes are for fishes, and I can't seem to grow gills....
My Murkland Challenge Adventures: Click Here
Theres alot of issues that happen from glitches, etc and that's understandable.
Not play testing a lot before SELLING it in the store is truley unacceptable. As simmers who use the exchange they must all take the time to play test before uploading and there's no money involved so this makes the team look very sloppy and I understand why everyone is buggin about it.
it's not that it's an easy fix, or that's its not a critical failure... it shows a lack of effort from the team in products being sold in the store.
How foolish of me! Of course! Using planters solves everything! Because, of course, you can plant everything in them, even trees! (/sarcasm)
I can deal with having to use cheats, I've done it before... I can even handle using floor tiles in my greenhouse, I'll just find come sort of CAStable style that makes it look like ground. Thankfully, the sprinklers on the Gardening Station don't cause puddles everywhere.
The issue is, why should I have to? Why bring out content that relies on cheats to work?
Well, actually, I know the answer to that one. EA doesn't care if it works, just that it sells, so taking something the entire community has been clambering for and releasing an expensive, albeit non-functional, version is a great way to line their pockets, especially if they don't tell people that the only way to make it function is through cheating and manipulation of the building features.
Furthermore, the workaround posted here isn't in any way a fix. Yes, it might get that one building to work out, but what if you wanted to build a little greenhouse on your own home lot, without attaching it to the house? In order for it to work, we are forced to have part of the structure covered with a regular roof... Sorry, but... what? How is that an acceptable fix, in any way?
However, I would like to take the opportunity to thank SimGuruCopeland for his efforts in trying to right this. I'm sure the support team aren't the ones making these decisions, and I feel sorry for all the extra work they have to put in because of these issues.
Dreghert - I SO AGREE WITH YOU!
What I would like to know .. why hasn't this Greenhouse been recalled till it's fixed? Not everyone reads the forums before purchasing. At least sell the items that do work individually but to keep the whole venue up for sale when it's broken is in my opinion .. dishonest.
I almost purchased this set before reading the posts. I'm so glad I did. Even if they come up with a way that fixes a roof .. such as adding glass tiles (which to me is a lazy and sloppy fix) it still to me is not worth the price. For me there would need to be a lot more done besides weatherizing it so I would want to purchase this venue.
In the future I will not be buying anything on the day it comes out, instead I will be waiting for reviews to see if it's exactly how it's advertised.
^This.
This is my feeling as well. I kinda just wanted Ceiling Sprinklers--not a total complex machine. Just Sprinklers that can spray water down from above, for everything from gardening to indoor fires to water parks. So I was a bit cresftallen to see the PC item.
All of this. :thumbup:
I am with you on this all the way sister!! I feel you.
Further, I was not complaining about the planters being the same as the Supernatural one only I was disgusted with myself buying the whole set. I do wish they would release the PC and individual pieces faster, in the future that is what I will do, buy the parts I want. The sprinkler system is very good and I am using the indoor planters in the basement of my sim's home. It is called the gardening room.
This experience has taught me a lesson about buying so fast and whole sets. That is not happening next year. I meant it about having that New Year's resolution.
You could also place a stove from your home lot into the Family Inventory then go to the community lot and use cheats to Edit in Buy Mode. Then you can place the stove on the community lot from your Family Inventory. It's that simple.
I had no problems with the S2 greenhouse so why not tweak it up for S3.
OFB-ish function would complete my Sim experience
Think about it:
The greenhouse in the Sims 2 were effectively a glorified version of the regular wall and roof tools, to make it function (or any room function), you used the sunlamps. The glass roof acted as a normal roof.
The Glass roof objects here, are more like the mansard roof objects from Apartment Life and Mansions & Gardens, as in, individual objects. They too also let the elements in (but since they had to be built on floor tiles, it didn't really matter). Instead of sunlamps, planters are used instead, provided in this lot and Supernatural (trees also couldn't be placed in TS2 greenhouses, and if you did build the greenhouse around them, they would still go dormant in winter).
Me too! (Please note: This is not a rumor, hint, spoiler or anything of the sort.)