Roofing 101: Are you hip, or a jerkin head? Part 1 by socalkdl «123...Next Go

SarahClevinger

Bookmarked! Thank you for this!

yanti68

socalkdl wrote:

KOman, it's coming along nicely. It's going to be very impressive. I am going to make a couple of suggestions however. The steep tower roofs in the foreground might look better using jisgr8's "roof stacking" technique. Here is a picture of what I mean:
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This I think, would add more interest to them. Also, watch your window/roof intersections. A roof slightly clipping a window is ok, and I realize this is a WIP early mock-up, but some of your windows are half-covered by gable roofs.<p>
Lastly, it looks like this build realy wants to be Chateauesque rather than Gothic. I often find I start a build with something in mind only to find it keeps looking like a totally different type. I've learned not to fight it but just go with the direction the house is taking.
Good job. Looking forward to more,
Kirk

WOW! :oops: :oops: How did I miss this? :shock: Sorry Kirk! This is a great tip. Thanks so much for sharing!

Judiland

:-) Hi Kirk, just bumping with a note to say fantastic job, great info, and I'm bookmarking this for future reference. But most of all to say thank you for this and the other thread, which led me here, now off to bookmark both. Judi. Oh yes, and there is no more link to jisgr8's blog, it seems to have disappeared into the misty nether reaches of the Internet.

socalkdl

Judiland wrote:

:-) Hi Kirk, just bumping with a note to say fantastic job, great info, and I'm bookmarking this for future reference. But most of all to say thank you for this and the other thread, which led me here, now off to bookmark both. Judi. Oh yes, and there is no more link to jisgr8's blog, it seems to have disappeared into the misty nether reaches of the Internet.

Thanks so much Judy. Sorry about jisgr8's link. Somehow an errant apostrophe had placed itself into the link. It now works
Kirk

socalkdl

Sarah and Yanti, glad you enjoyed the tutorials. I certainly had fun making them. Yanti, there is so much good stuff happening all the time in the forums now I can't keep up either. It would take me about 3 hours a day to do so, and I wouldn't have time left to build, LOL, not to mention my poor wife would feel neglected!
Kirk

spartan1

Thank you so much for this tutorial Kirk - bookmarked, and will come back often for some much-needed help!

socalkdl

spartan1 wrote:

Thank you so much for this tutorial Kirk - bookmarked, and will come back often for some much-needed help!

Thanks Spartan. Be sure to check out jsgr8's blog:
http://whyplumbobsaregreen.blogspot.com/
for great stuff, as well as the compilation SmokyTopaz has so thoughtfully put together:
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/279453.page
I have a short tutorial on using the half-height walls as a foundation as well:
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/362238.page
Also some great tid-bits can be found at Merrywidow's thread:
BUILDERS' 101 - For Builders from Novice to Beyond : "Let's Learn Together"
Happy plumbobs to you!

Kirk

KLorelei

What a fantastic tutorial! As a new builder (pretty much completely new, we're talking just this past week, heh) I've found myself spending a lot of time trying to get the roofing tool to do what I want. Bookmarking this thread because I have a feeling it'll help me stave off future frustration.

Thank you!

socalkdl

KLorelei wrote:

What a fantastic tutorial! As a new builder (pretty much completely new, we're talking just this past week, heh) I've found myself spending a lot of time trying to get the roofing tool to do what I want. Bookmarking this thread because I have a feeling it'll help me stave off future frustration.

Thank you!

Thank you KLorelei. I hope you find it helpful.
Kirk

ZephyrGirlSim

This tutorial is going to be a life saver. I was pointed here after lamenting on another thread about my headache brought on by trying to roof a house that was by no means complicated. It took three hours for a roof that I thought would have been pretty basic (but man did auto-roof screw it up).

Any chance you have figured out wrap around porches? I can't get mine to connect most of the time, but when they do it interferes with the windows.

beaglelover2008

Thank you for this tutorial! I'm a new builder whose biggest trip is roofs! Thank you!

Aetherthe

Thank you! I am trying my hand at barns and recreating my brother's farm and the gambrel roof is just what I was failing to do right. So you fixed that issue with this and your other posts/tutorials! "Thanks, Thanks, and ever Thanks..." (maybe shakespere, I'm misquoting?)

You are so erudite and I enjoy your elegant writing style.

...pardon my bad spelling and stuttering, I am so out of practice at writing much nowadays. So for the dumb question... How does one make a realistic pergola on top of this roof? ...is that even the right term for it? ...the small short "box" structure atop the traditional barn roof on which sits a weathervane...acts usually a vent and/or skylight...

Thanks again

GraceyManor

Love this thread.They should sticky it.

socalkdl

Aetherthe wrote:

Thank you! I am trying my hand at barns and recreating my brother's farm and the gambrel roof is just what I was failing to do right. So you fixed that issue with this and your other posts/tutorials! "Thanks, Thanks, and ever Thanks..." (maybe shakespere, I'm misquoting?)

You are so erudite and I enjoy your elegant writing style.

...pardon my bad spelling and stuttering, I am so out of practice at writing much nowadays. So for the dumb question... How does one make a realistic pergola on top of this roof? ...is that even the right term for it? ...the small short "box" structure atop the traditional barn roof on which sits a weathervane...acts usually a vent and/or skylight...

Thanks again

Aetherthe, you'll have to make sure you have enough floors left to enable another box structure (walls) poking through your gambrel roof. Then simply top that with a simple hip roof and weathervane. Cover the walls with a pattern that suggests vents.

Hope that helps,
Kirk

socalkdl

ZephyrGirlSim wrote:

This tutorial is going to be a life saver. I was pointed here after lamenting on another thread about my headache brought on by trying to roof a house that was by no means complicated. It took three hours for a roof that I thought would have been pretty basic (but man did auto-roof screw it up).

Any chance you have figured out wrap around porches? I can't get mine to connect most of the time, but when they do it interferes with the windows.

Yes, crank your roof setting down as far as it will go (shallow roof). layout your wrap around porch roof, then raise your roofs to the proper angles again. Individually lower the offending porch roofs that are now interfering with the windows until they no longer do so and look right.
-Kirk
Here is an example:

Notice how much shallower the porch roof angle is compared to the roof of the house.

socalkdl

Thanks Beaglelover and Springfairy, glad you liked the tutorial
Kirk

socalkdl

Bump

Aetherthe

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Thanks- I was trying to make this too hard.

FYI to all -- I looked it up on wikipedia - Cupola is what the small structure on top is called, be it the Vatican or a barn. Pergolas are open structures on the ground. (I had a hard time finidng it and it was driving me to compulsive)

XoAmeliaoX

This is GREAT! Thank you!
By the way, what kind of desktop/laptop do you use?
Your graphics are amazing! Mine are rubbish.

socalkdl

XoAmeliaoX wrote:

This is GREAT! Thank you!
By the way, what kind of desktop/laptop do you use?
Your graphics are amazing! Mine are rubbish.

I have a Dell XPS i7 quad core desktop with an 8600 series AMD Radian graphics card. Am going to switch to iMac in a few years tho.